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MrCere
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May 25 2012, 5:04am
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I absolutely thought it was "chomping" at the bit in reference to horses who, before running a race, were anxious and nervous and chomping at the bit. I am ashamed thinking about how often I might have used that.
But, where does "champing" come from?! Why does it mean that?
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Starling
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May 25 2012, 5:12am
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but in a noisy way. It's a great description of what horses do with their bit when they are impatient.
I've always used that term, probably because I've spent so much time around horses.
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Starling
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May 25 2012, 5:17am
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Who needs a squib, when you can have a ten-armed cephalopod?
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I heard a new one today. A man describing tax changes on public radio this morning was very disappointed. He referred to the changes as, "..a bit of a damp squid, really...". 
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May 25 2012, 5:21am
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my brief research, champing is the original word and chomping is an American variant. Interestingly enough, "chomp" is not listed in the 1828 version of Webster's American Dictionary so clearly it hadn't reached common use status at that point.
So yes, they mean the same thing, but the original phrase predates "chomp" and so "champ" is correct.
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Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you." -On Fairy Stories
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May 25 2012, 5:25am
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Granted, it might still be a depressing failure but it wouldn't have quite the same effect.
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"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you." -On Fairy Stories
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geordie
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May 25 2012, 6:28am
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to say 'an hotel' - and also 'an hour', as in so many miles an hour.
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DanielLB
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May 25 2012, 6:49am
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I'm glad I'm not the only one!
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Thought I had missed a whole part of my education 
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Xanaseb
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May 25 2012, 12:13pm
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Dunno if you've seen this hilarious video by David Mitchell about American - British english 'could care less' LOL :
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LOL it's funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
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JWPlatt
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May 25 2012, 2:14pm
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It's also correct to say 'an hotel' - and also 'an hour', as in so many miles an hour. It's not correct, actually. 'Hotel' begins with a consonant sound and should be preceded by an 'a.' Whereas 'hour' begins with a vowel sound and thus gets the 'an.'
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DanielLB
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May 25 2012, 2:20pm
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According the wikipedia (yes....I know):
An is also preferred before hotel by some writers of British English (probably reflecting the relatively recent adoption of the word from French, where the h is not pronounced).The use of "an" before words beginning with an unstressed "h" is more common generally in British English than American. American writers normally use a in all these cases, although there are occasional uses of an historic(al) in American English
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Lily Fairbairn
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May 25 2012, 2:47pm
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I do my original writing in Word Perfect, then, grudgingly, change it to Word before sending it out into the world, because Word is standard these days. If I have to format anything in Word I know to allow plenty of time, soothing music, and chocolate, because it's going to be a struggle.
And even then Word will slip funny little bits of code into your spanking clean document....  
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Annael
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May 25 2012, 2:57pm
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and was very unhappy with having to switch. I particularly loved their "reveal codes" feature which made it so easy to format, as well as find the mistake that made your formatting go wonky.
But I have to say that Word 2007 and now Word 2010 are a vast improvement on the old Word 97-2003. If you haven't upgraded, do so!
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:04pm
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Around here we hold down the fort, pardner.
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Ever hear of the "Wyoming kite"? It's a manhole cover on a length of chain :-D
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:08pm
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I see "noone" in place of "no one" on the Internet all the time, and it always looks like a Chaucerian spelling of "noon".
I think there is a brand of duct tape called "Duck tape". But that's just a brand name.
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Lily Fairbairn
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May 25 2012, 4:10pm
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...and I find them even more difficult to work with than Word 97-2003. It's like everything I fought my way into learning how to do on the old Word is now even more complicated!
I think the issue is that Word is now set up to do complex work that I don't need to do, so I have to wade through dozens (at least) of options, with no idea of what they even mean. And I don't have the choice of NOT using them, because the dang software just blithely incorporates them into my work whether I want it to or not.
Maybe I'm just a slow learner. 
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:11pm
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that ate some cheese and sat by the mousehole with baited breath...
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May 25 2012, 4:12pm
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Never underestimate the power of Chinook winds!
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If you don't hold down the fort, those'll send it sailing!
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:13pm
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That one actually kind of makes sense.
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The seeds for those issues are planted deep down.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:18pm
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Even though I really, really know better
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I sometimes slip up with homonyms when I'm typing fast. Two-too-to, its-it's, their-they're-there. I really do know the difference. So if you see me goofing up here, it's just my fumblefingers.
I also put two spaces after a period. It's not a conscious thing, just very, very automatic.
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DanielLB
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May 25 2012, 4:21pm
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I never ever thought I would see the word "Chinook" on this forum
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Thanks a lot dernwyn, now my work and interests are mixed  My PhD research at the moment is on foehn winds....
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:24pm
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Reminds me of "Ladle Rat Rotten Hut"
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We still say "garbled erupt" at my house.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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May 25 2012, 4:41pm
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And there's one I didn't think I'd see!
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Not unless I posted it, anyway, while droning on about Switzerland. ;) "If the Föhn does not blow, the golden sun and the good God can do nothing with the snow."
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geordie
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May 25 2012, 7:27pm
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Yes, you're right about 'an hour' -
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- but I'm right about 'an hotel'.
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May 25 2012, 8:34pm
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Canterbury has the föhn (foehn) winds from the Southern Alps,
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but it wasn't until last year that I realised it wasn't the 'fern effect', as I had thought! In my defence I had never seen the word written down, only heard it.
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