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davidlean
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Aug 5 2011, 7:08am
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Sir Christopher Lee speaks very briefly about four days of shooting...
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... for both TH films. He specifically mentions shooting for both films. So, White Council meetings in both films? See this video with Lee interviewed on stage during a film and wine festival in Slovenia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJHZOMdDhFU
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HiddenSpring
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Aug 5 2011, 7:35am
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Well, four days of shooting doesn't seem like a lot at first
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But when you think of it, if it is all dialogue they shot, they could easily have three or four scenes with Saruman in it. Perhaps a couple for the White Council sequence in Rivendell and some more of Saruman overlooking the action from Isengand in There And Back Again? I doubt he will be in person at Dol Guldur though.
Incidentally, Cate Blanchett seems to have been in New Zealand for a few days also, so unless she returns for the second or third blocks of shooting, their roles may be smaller than we think. My hunch is that Elrond will join Gandalf early on in his Dol Guldur adventure and that at the last minute Galadriel will come in. Saruman stays home.
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HiddenSpring
Lorien
Aug 5 2011, 7:42am
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Oh and forgot to mention, it is still a pleasure to hear him speak
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People worry too much about the returning actors having to look the same as before for the films; yes, Sir Lee has changed a lot in ten years, and I hope they use that to their advantage in the films. It could make for a subtly more human Saruman without even trying too hard; there is a charming sort of tenderness to him that is new (though he is still as commanding as ever).
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RoseCotton
Lorien
Aug 5 2011, 7:59am
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He does seem to be quite clear about two films.
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But maybe that's just so he can be terribly disappointed all over again when he's cut from the last one for pacing reasons! 
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megha
The Shire
Aug 5 2011, 10:16am
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will Mr. Lee shoot more scenes or has he finished with shooting ?
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Aug 5 2011, 10:16am
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I love the fact that at nearly 90 years old, he's willing to make movies, and travel to different places and speak to audiences. Truly an achievement at that age. He's an actor, former soldier/spy, heavy metal singer (true story), and all around awesome man. Yeah, he's definitely aged, but the makeup artists really did a good job of de-aging him to make him look a lot like he did in LotR. By the way, I like that he's looking a bit more plump now than he did last year, because I was getting worried about his increasingly thinning figure.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien
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Bjorn
Bree
Aug 5 2011, 10:20am
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I hope he gets to watch the films. Looks like there isn't that much time left sadly :(
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Maiarmike
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Aug 5 2011, 10:26am
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I try not to think morbidly like that...
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But it's fairly obvious when one is near 90 years old, that one realizes anything could potentially happen sooner rather than later, and is fully prepared and accepting of that fact.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien
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davidlean
The Shire
Aug 5 2011, 11:31am
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Maybe he will return for second or third shooting block...
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...if PJ & Co. write pickup shots for Lee and the White Council. The scenes Sir Christopher shot recently may have been written so that they alone work within the story. If he is available later PJ might want to add pickups. I´m sure PJ watches and edits rough cuts with a full eye for pickups as needed. They have all of 2012 and much of 2013 to do it.
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ByThorinsBeard
Rohan
Aug 5 2011, 12:41pm
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I am so thrilled he's so enthusiastic about The Hobbit and he looks quite well.
If you love what you do, it shows and it certainly shows with Sir Christopher. He's a role model to go for your dream and do what you love.
I'm very excited to see Saruman and am happily surprised he had more than one day of filming.
"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you anywhere." - Albert Einstein.
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Oiotári
Tol Eressea
Aug 5 2011, 12:50pm
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but what's another two or three years?
We human beings can be amazingly resilient, especially when there's something to look forward to
..The land of long-forgotten name:
......no man may ever anchor near;
..No steering star his hope may aim,
......for nether Night its marches drear,
..And waters wide no sail may tame,
......with shores encircled dark and sheer.
..O! Haven where my heart would be!
......the waves beat upon thy bar
..For ever echo endlessly,
......when longing leads thy thought afar
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Oiotári
Tol Eressea
Aug 5 2011, 12:51pm
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even if there wasn't all that much on The Hobbit, it was fun to listen to him reminisce 
..The land of long-forgotten name:
......no man may ever anchor near;
..No steering star his hope may aim,
......for nether Night its marches drear,
..And waters wide no sail may tame,
......with shores encircled dark and sheer.
..O! Haven where my heart would be!
......the waves beat upon thy bar
..For ever echo endlessly,
......when longing leads thy thought afar
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Aug 5 2011, 1:48pm
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The White Council in both films...
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If this is accurate, it may just mean that even if the attack on Dol Guldur takes place in An Unexpected Journey, the results of the assault won't be revealed until There and Back Again.
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Eruonen
Half-elven
Aug 5 2011, 3:11pm
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Actuarially....if one achieves age 90 and is in "good" health
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the odds are favorable for living another 10 years.
Of course, depending on your health, it could be less.
Mentally, he is still very sharp considering his age and it is expected to have some infirmities.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Aug 5 2011, 4:23pm
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It was interesting to hear that when he did The Three Musketeers they used real swords and he sustained an injury from Erol Flynn, after lunch. It must have been especially dangerous when he was fighting with that rookie Hayden Christensen using light sabres.
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Bladerunner
Gondor
Aug 5 2011, 4:58pm
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If +/- 250 days of shooting results in say (6.5 hrs)* (60 min/hr) = 390 minutes of footage (say 400 minutes as an order of magnitude), then 4 days of shooting might yield somewhere between 5 to 10 minutes of footage (again as an order of magnitude estimate). While +/- 45 minutes of this footage may be cut from the theatrical release, perhaps very little of the Lee footage would be cut.
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Gnomeo
The Shire
Aug 5 2011, 6:22pm
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He looks so old, frail and ordinary...
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A complete opposite of Saruman...
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dormouse
Half-elven
Aug 5 2011, 6:54pm
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I think he's remarkable for his age and I love the fact that at almost 90 he is still making films, travelling, attending functions like this - whatever it was - and giving interviews and taking an active interest in things. There's nothing ordinary about that - most people begin to give up on those things 10, even 20 years sooner, often because they have no choice. I admire his spirit and hope I'm even half as lively, if I live that long. Trust me, if you'd seen how truly frail and vulnerable an elderly person can look you would admire and not pity him.
And remember, Saruman was a whole lot older! 
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Bjorn
Bree
Aug 5 2011, 7:02pm
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There is one thing I have noticed, both Sean Connery and Christopher Lee were bald at an early age. And both are very old and active. Perhaps they were early bloomers? People are getting older and older, we are slowly evolving. Maybe being bald is the next step since we have become more and more hairless the more we have evolved. I don't know just general observation.
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Lindele
Gondor
Aug 5 2011, 7:13pm
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right...
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Darkstone
Immortal
Aug 5 2011, 7:45pm
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Me very hairy. Plenty hair on arms, legs, head, chest, back, everywhere. That mean me dumb, right?
You so smart, you must be bald all over, huh?
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Brothers, sisters,
I was Elf once.
We danced together
Under the Two Trees.
We sang as the soft gold of Laurelin
And the bright silver of Telperion,
Brought forth the dawn of the world.
Then I was taken.
Brothers, sisters,
In my torment I kept faith,
And I waited.
But you never came.
And when I returned you drew sword,
And when I called your names you drew bow.
Was my Eldar beauty all,
And my soul nothing?
So be it.
I will return your hatred,
And I am hungry.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Aug 5 2011, 7:46pm
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When you consider that they will add in cut aways, POV shots, etc, and may digitize him for certain scenes (ie something like the fight scene with Gandalf) he may yet end up having much more screen time.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Aug 5 2011, 7:48pm
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Bjorn is our resident Eugenics enthusiast. //
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Darkstone
Immortal
Aug 5 2011, 7:53pm
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Even if he is somewhat overly enthusiastic about guys named "Eugene" that's hardly relevant to his opinion of The Hobbit, is it?
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Brothers, sisters,
I was Elf once.
We danced together
Under the Two Trees.
We sang as the soft gold of Laurelin
And the bright silver of Telperion,
Brought forth the dawn of the world.
Then I was taken.
Brothers, sisters,
In my torment I kept faith,
And I waited.
But you never came.
And when I returned you drew sword,
And when I called your names you drew bow.
Was my Eldar beauty all,
And my soul nothing?
So be it.
I will return your hatred,
And I am hungry.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Aug 5 2011, 8:01pm
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same with that point about light sabres that other guy made.
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