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Kyriel
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Jul 14 2011, 11:45am
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After all, if you're an old timer, I'm an ancient crone - and I'm still in my forties!  Anyway, nice to see you again.
Those left standing will make millions writing books on the way it should have been. --Incubus
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Jul 14 2011, 11:46am
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I was hoping to read your thoughts on these guys. I actually thought of Bombur as more of the mentally-challenged, waste of space sort of character that will cause nothing but trouble. I didn't really get the same vibe from Bifur that you did though. I kind of think he'll be the hardened, slightly crazy, but really tough SOB of the lot. The one that isn't afraid to sort of go straight at the danger and take out some orcs. Interesting theory about the brain-damaged personality though.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak
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DrDeath153
Lorien
Jul 14 2011, 11:54am
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Oh yes i'm fully expecting him to be hard as nails
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I kind of see him as the crazed one when the going gets tough- as soon as he processes there's danger about he'll be there snarling maniacally, weapon raised ready to impale the first person to come near him. I imagine he'll be quite a twitchy, nervous fighter- the kind of person who bumps into his friend's back and fearing it's an enemy takes a swing at them. It should be a real laugh for Kircher to play.
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elostirion74
Rohan
Jul 14 2011, 12:11pm
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Disappointing - didn´t like these
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I´ve been very satisfied with what I´ve seen of the dwarves till now and how they all look so different. This time around, however, I´m disappointed with the choices they´ve made. Bombur and Bofur´s look is just too exaggerated, leaning far too much on a cartoon/comic book style. Bombur just looks silly and even if a character isn´t the smartest of the bunch, you don´t have to express it overtly through his facial expression. Bofur´s hair and beard are allowed to dominate the overall look of the character totally.
Bifur, though, is fine with me. The hat only appears as a distinguishing detail, not as the dominant feature of the character.
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dormouse
Half-elven
Jul 14 2011, 12:16pm
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I agree with you about Bombur's costume, DrDeath
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When I first saw the picture I thought he looked good but on closer inspection, using the high-res picture and lightening it so the details show, his style looks too far removed from the others to me. I think he'd have looked better with some kind of low-belted tunic; the huge baggy trousers, tight jumper and sash, look more like something from the Arabian Nights (though I daresay the inspiration was probably Obelix). Doesn't really work for me. Also he doesn't seem to have any of the 'dwarven' angular designs. The bouclé fabric they've used for his trousers reminds me terribly of a coat my Mum used to wear in the distant past - I always hated it and it snagged on everything!
But whatever - could be worse and it is only one photo. He might look better moving around...
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Gandalf'sMother
Rohan
Jul 14 2011, 12:19pm
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Um, I think it has been quite a common opinion that the Gimli humor was corny and not particularly funny or tasteful.
I doubt the Hobbit, with its 15 main characters, will resort to those sort of one-off jokes.
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Gandalf'sMother
Rohan
Jul 14 2011, 12:21pm
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He's going to use the ladle as a weapon. After all, he's just holding it. And this is a photoshoot, not a scene from the films.
I hope he doesn't use it. Would be a bit eye-roll inducing, like Sam's use of his pans in the Chamber of Mazarbul.
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Flagg
Tol Eressea
Jul 14 2011, 12:42pm
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I'm glad they decided to make Bombur suitably fat and funny-looking (I actually laughed when I saw him); I don't mind the absence of a proper chin-beard, as the absurdly bushy sideburns and the 'noose' of plaited hair around his neck more than make up for it. Is that some kind of pot he's holding in lieu of a weapon? I'm not sure if I like the combination of obesity and ginger hair – it reminds me uncomfortably of Harry Knowles, and also of a certain Scotsman who must not be named from Austin Powers. Not really what I want from The Hobbit; I would have preferred them to make one of the more normal-looking Dwarves ginger instead (Bifur or Bofur, or even Kili; ginger is closer to his original blonde).
Bofur looks like a sturdy, reliable, carefree fellow. Snazzy axe. There's really not that much to say about him; he's probably the most normal-looking, middle-of-the-road Dwarf we've seen so far. Perfectly acceptable.
As several people have noted, Bifur looks like a demented owl, but I don't mind; he's got the bushy, head-encircling hair and beard of a true Gimli-style Dwarf, although the designers seem to have been thinking outside the Gimli-box a bit more than when they created Oin and Gloin. Differentiating the colour of facial hair and head-hair was an interesting touch, and that Dwarven spear is indescribably cool.
Overall I'm very satisfied with these three; they're about as good as the Nori/Ori/Dori trio, not quite as sublime as Oin/Gloin, and definitely better than the Fili/Kili (although the latter really dragged the former down). I give Bombur/Bofur/Bifur seven thumbs up. 
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Jul 14 2011, 12:51pm
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"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Jul 14 2011, 1:01pm
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Funny you mention Harry Knowles...lol.
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Harry's reporting on this cracked me up, as he says, "Bombur is a GOD!" and that he needs to go as Bombur for Halloween as it's "such a great fat ginger look". 
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak
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Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Lorien
Jul 14 2011, 1:10pm
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Thank you!
All you have to decide is what to do with the time that has been given to you...
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Flagg
Tol Eressea
Jul 14 2011, 1:11pm
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You might be on to something there
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The connection between the name 'Bifur' and the word 'bifurcate' actually may have been the inspiration for his condition. It could be another 'Thorin --> thorn' deal.
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 14 2011, 1:20pm
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My opinion abides with yours, Dude.//
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Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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RoseCotton
Lorien
Jul 14 2011, 1:22pm
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As you may imagine, this had crossed my mind. :-) //
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Rachamatazz
The Shire
Jul 14 2011, 1:33pm
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that Bombur's weapon looks like a giant soup ladle? What is it?! Aside from that I think they all look really good, particularly Bofur's rather fetching hat 
Not all those who wander are lost.
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Phibbus
Rohan
Jul 14 2011, 1:37pm
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When I first saw it small, I thought it was a roundish spade, however it's obviously bowl-shaped at the end when viewed closer.
Perhaps it's a smelting ladle for pouring ingots?
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Flagg
Tol Eressea
Jul 14 2011, 1:38pm
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Perhaps he will use it to pour molten gold on his enemies. //
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Snulle
Bree
Jul 14 2011, 1:39pm
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Everyone else has übercool weapons while he using a soup ladle.
Simply brilliant! 
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Phibbus
Rohan
Jul 14 2011, 1:42pm
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Perhaps he will use it to pour molten gold on his enemies. //
That's Game of Thrones you're thinking of...
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Phibbus
Rohan
Jul 14 2011, 1:49pm
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If they are using Bifur as a play on "bifurcate" (in the sense if dividing into two branches,) they might also be going for a split-personality disorder with him as a result of the accident, somewhat as DrDeath suggested.
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Jul 14 2011, 1:53pm
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Now that was an awesome scene. Poor fool Viserys had it coming, I suppose.
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Never mess with the Dothraki! 
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak
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GhostofMacbeth
Bree
Jul 14 2011, 2:21pm
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This set isn't bad. I am thinking that Bombur's clothes might be a bit out of place by intention since he is so large. Something a bit more flowy and handmade since they can't find clothes for him in the shops.
Not a big fan of Bofur's hat but it might indicate a connection to the northern lands of Middle Earth.
Not sure about the bit of metal on Bifur's head but I like the design otherwise.
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Kangi Ska
Half-elven
Jul 14 2011, 2:34pm
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In Bifur's case it appears to have been a near miss though.//
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Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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It is a soup ladle.
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