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Bifur, Bofur and Bombur
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Ronilav

Jul 14 2011, 5:21am

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Hmmmm? [In reply to] Can't Post

If that is accurate, Fili is a head taller than some of the others. Not liking that at all.

But thanks Pipe Dream, great job putting them all together! (I thought about jokingly saying "Pipeline" but I figured the joke was too old)

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Ronilav

Jul 14 2011, 5:34am

Post #177 of 318 (1666 views)
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That's my conclusion, too [In reply to] Can't Post

Though maybe it is just wishful thinking Crazy

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


sushiking
Erihs Eht


Jul 14 2011, 5:48am

Post #178 of 318 (1667 views)
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Corney Humor? [In reply to] Can't Post

Weird people said Gimli in TLOTR had Corney Humor!!!! I for one loved his humor and i for one don't care what humor they add because I'm sure it'll be 100% funny :P


rings7
NahoR


Jul 14 2011, 6:32am

Post #179 of 318 (1570 views)
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That's just how the picture was put together by PipeDream [In reply to] Can't Post

and not a still from the film.


Dwimbruk
Erihs Eht

Jul 14 2011, 6:59am

Post #180 of 318 (1590 views)
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I love them all! [In reply to] Can't Post

I just think it's amazing how from just one picture of each you get an immediate sense of exactly what they are like.

James Nesbitt is definitely going to be my favourite, I think - I love his pic so much! He's clearly the cheeky chappie who will give as good as he gets if the more royal ones give him some gyp! Bifur on the other hand would just withdraw into his shell, and Bombur wouldn't even understand what's going on!

I do wonder if Bombur's braid is a pigtail looped round his front. It does look a bit as if it's thinner on the left than on the right.

Another point is that Bofur isn't fat at all, and he does look like a dwarf, so maybe Kili will be ok in the film. He's the only one I'm still not sure about.


Patty
Latrommi


Jul 14 2011, 7:24am

Post #181 of 318 (1521 views)
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Yeah. I love them! [In reply to] Can't Post

but no one looks fit enough to carry a certain companion when a certain thing happens...

There. No spoilers.Sly

Permanent address: Into the West





Snulle
Eerb

Jul 14 2011, 7:31am

Post #182 of 318 (1507 views)
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Thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

These three i really like.
And I absolutely love the look of Bombur. It's so hilarious with him using a soup ladle as a weapon. Cool


Maiarmike
SnevaH Yerg


Jul 14 2011, 7:35am

Post #183 of 318 (1510 views)
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I don't know... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I think it looks awesome myself, but I like quirky stuff like that.

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak


Patty
Latrommi


Jul 14 2011, 7:39am

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Thanks, Richie. You are my hero of the day. [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, you and PJ. I love these new dwarves! It does help to mitigate the "Kili factor".

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Snulle
Eerb

Jul 14 2011, 7:40am

Post #185 of 318 (1556 views)
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Looks more like a soup ladle to me. [In reply to] Can't Post

But either way it's a perfect choice of weapon for Bombur! Sly


(This post was edited by Snulle on Jul 14 2011, 7:41am)


stormcrow20
Rodnog


Jul 14 2011, 8:09am

Post #186 of 318 (1524 views)
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Aha! Now we know who shaved Kili! [In reply to] Can't Post

It was Bifur, with one swift swipe of his giant straight razor! Obviously he's the barber of the group. Wink

My initial reactions weren't that great, but once again I'm liking them more as time goes by.

Bombur's clothes need more dwarven influence, somehow. I get that he is working class, but his costume is rather Hagrid-ish.

I really don't like Bofur's hat....

Bifur's wild hair and beard are a nice touch, but the stripes are a bit much (and mar my hopes for Saruman to have a tad more raven in his beard and hair). That thing in his head worries me. Crazy

And once again, I love the weapons. Even Bombur's utensil! Bofur's tool is great, and leads me to hope that Dwalin will have a nice war hammer (or hammers). I look forward to as much bashing as hacking!

I'm amazed at how much personality is shown by each of the company in just these first photos. Despite my nitpicks, I am totally stoked!



A greenlight from the shadows shall spring!


gareteld
Erihs Eht


Jul 14 2011, 8:10am

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if you like this bunch [In reply to] Can't Post

just wait for the 500 that turn up at the BoFA's thats going to be amazing!


Nesse
Neirol

Jul 14 2011, 8:29am

Post #188 of 318 (1456 views)
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awesome ty RR... [In reply to] Can't Post

Im gonna save this to favourites :)


dormouse
Nevle-flah

Jul 14 2011, 8:44am

Post #189 of 318 (1532 views)
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One thing that strikes me about the group images.... [In reply to] Can't Post

... is just how much space they take up when put together - and this is only ten of them. Obvious, I know, but when you actually see them lined up it makes it real.

I think it was brave of them to take on so many main characters and they're doing an amazingly good job at making individuals of them, while still making them gel as a group.


TheWhiteRider
Eerb


Jul 14 2011, 9:09am

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Bifur [In reply to] Can't Post

Is my favourite hands down. He looks badass with those shaded hair and that spear thingy in his hand !!


DrDeath153
Neirol

Jul 14 2011, 9:22am

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Well there's no denying it's an improvement on Fili and Kili [In reply to] Can't Post

Quite a significant one, but not the best of the dwarves we've seen so far (Oin and Gloin still press my traditionalist buttons).

Bombur looks fairly cool- certainly in terms of his face he's much like i would expect, with the 'beard' being more two vast mutton-chops allowing the window to see his double chin. I think i would have preferred that his long plait would be cut in half giving him two long 'walrus' type plaits rather than the single 'string of onions' that you see on cartoons of frenchmen. His costume though doesn't impress me nearly so much. Green is not a colour that has been particularly associated with middle-earth dwarves (being an earthy sort i would have preferred an ochre or something a bit more on those lines). His 'The King and I' style trousers complete with cummerbund don't do it for me either, and personally i would have preferred a few more layers (the trademark of Ngila Dickson's costumes).

By comparison i'm very keen on Bofur's costume but it's a bit of a pity he doesn't fill it out as well as a dwarf should. I did pick up on the point Marillaraina makes that the proportions really aren't that dwarvish whatsoever- all the mass is towards the extremities as opposed to being focused around the trunk and the head. He does remind me of someone, i'm not sure exactly who but i want to say Richard Hammond. The hat i actually don't mind in itself, i just wish his head filled it a bit better. It's plain though given Bifur's injury that Bofur will be the 'voice' of the group- a relationship i'll talk about with....

Bifur. Bifur is a very traditional dwarf at first sight, lots of hair, lots of beard, round bodied (his head is still a little bit thinner than is traditional for the LotR dwarf proportions). His halberd is a lovely piece of kit and i do like the differences in the shades of his hair- it gives him a nicely dishevelled, inconsistent look. Of course the major cause for concern is the piece of ironmongery lodged in his bonce. I'm kind of half and half on it at the moment since it does suddenly give him a character all of his own- he's the bright young star of the mining world, the most effective foreman there ever was until the day of his accident. Now he's a slurring, twitching babbler, often completely unaware of the going's on but occasionally given to windows of complete clarity and lucidity, almost a Rowley Berkin type character only brain-damaged rather than drunk. The relationship between him and his more mentally agile cousin Bofur (presumably Bifur is an only child without parents so has to rely on his cousins as his nearest next of kin) is almost like that between Anthony La Paglia and Robbie Coltrane's characters in the final episodes of 'Frasier'- you can just imagine Bifur spouting something that sounds like gibberish to everyone and then Bofur translating 'That's right Bifur, there is a route round Mirkwood to the north, why can't we use that?' On the other hand, i'm not sure whether such a visceral piece of damage is quite 'Tolkienian'- it's very PJ and i'm sure it'll work great on film but i can't imagine it's the kind of thing Tolkien would write, particularly if it makes a character imbecilic. Compared to the sins of PJ in other places though, for one minor dwarf i'll happily accept it (i can always 'airbrush' it out of my mental readings if it gets too much).

So yes, i'm not quite Gloin with dwarven enthusiasm with this bunch, but at least they're a good lot of characters.

Dr Death


Pipe Dream
Rodnog


Jul 14 2011, 9:30am

Post #192 of 318 (1376 views)
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Thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

It might be off a bit, but isn't he slightly taller in real life? I copied and pasted him against Gloin to see how much taller I made him and he's only 1/4 of a forehead taller. Tongue Anyway, I have to go to a Performance Based Interview or "PBI" today, which translates into "Pipeline's brutal interview" via a panel of two physicians and two technologists. I guess I better spend my last few hours trying to prepare for my humiliation. Hopefully the other candidates are stupider then I am. Wink

"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.


Gnomeo
Erihs Eht


Jul 14 2011, 10:45am

Post #193 of 318 (1377 views)
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That's definitely an axe stuck into Bifur's head [In reply to] Can't Post




TheWhiteRider
Eerb


Jul 14 2011, 10:48am

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WTH I didnt see that !!! [In reply to] Can't Post

that makes him more rough looking !!


QuackingTroll
Ronilav


Jul 14 2011, 11:09am

Post #195 of 318 (1327 views)
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and presumably has a beard... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that the dwarves grab him by when he falls in the Black Strream.


little mouse
Llednevir

Jul 14 2011, 11:20am

Post #196 of 318 (1289 views)
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the one on the right looks like whale hunter [In reply to] Can't Post

I just love the boots


QuackingTroll
Ronilav


Jul 14 2011, 11:28am

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Or perhaps he dyed it blue with a by-product of mining // [In reply to] Can't Post

Tongue


Maiarmike
SnevaH Yerg


Jul 14 2011, 11:32am

Post #198 of 318 (1279 views)
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Definitely brave. [In reply to] Can't Post

I remember the critics (who hadn't read the books) giving them heat with FotR, because the amount of characters seemed overwhelming to some people. With 13 dwarves, they better well make them all different and really stand out from each other, because chances are, a lot of folks who see the movie will just be casual people wanting a good time at the movies, never having read the book. This is why I think they've gone the route they have.

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak


RoseCotton
Neirol


Jul 14 2011, 11:39am

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Perhaps someone tried to bifurcate him... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but struck more solid bone than they expected... Smile


Alientraveller
Neirol

Jul 14 2011, 11:43am

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Love Bombur's walrus moustache and expression [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought that his wife may have braided his pony tail for him, though we'll see what exactly it is.

I love that through the make-up I could see the twinkle in James Nesbitt's eye, and I certainly agree there'll be a lot of humour from Bifur's accident.

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