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The Titles have been announced
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Welsh hero
Gondor


May 30 2011, 7:17pm

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TBA [In reply to] Can't Post

seems like the title is to be announced.

Wink

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Bound
Rohan


May 30 2011, 7:29pm

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Wonderful Titles... [In reply to] Can't Post

I know they've been hinted at before but it's nice having them confirmed. I think they are great, It's nice that There And Back Again is being used and Unexpected Journey is smart nod to The Unexpected Party.

Nice to see that they have plans to use Christopher Lee after all.... Fingers crossed things work out !

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duats
Grey Havens

May 30 2011, 7:33pm

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Great press release [In reply to] Can't Post

Now announce Smaug and Bard and we're good to go.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


May 30 2011, 7:39pm

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Christopher Lee confirmed as Saruman! [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, happy, happy day!

Finally, all the cast members whose characters would have been around during the time frame of TH have been locked in.

Now, I personally would have wanted Marton Csokas back as Celeborn as the last returnee, but I guess that's just me being greedy.

BTW, the titles were leaked some time ago, but very nice to have them confirmed...

I would rather be watching Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" and Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"...it's going to be a long few years.


Ataahua
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May 30 2011, 7:47pm

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To me, it makes sense [In reply to] Can't Post

that Smaug's voice wouldn't be announced before he's seen on screen, to maximise the dragon's impact. Then we have Cumberbatch's involvement in The Hobbit being hush-hush until it was spilled by Freeman (and that Cumberbatch isn't listed in the cast list on The Hobbit's Facebook announcement).

I see that as 1 + 1 = Cumberbatch is voicing Smaug.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Elizabeth
Half-elven


May 30 2011, 8:02pm

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Why do you want Csokas? [In reply to] Can't Post

I really don't understand this passion for recycling LotR characters who have nothing to do with the story of The Hobbit. Yes, they were wonderful, but you can always watch the LotR movies again. The Hobbit is a different story, and will be wonderful in its own way.






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rings7
Rohan


May 30 2011, 8:04pm

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I'm confused [In reply to] Can't Post

All this time i thought it was already announced and confirmed, so i was like "why the old news?" Crazy


duats
Grey Havens

May 30 2011, 8:06pm

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Isn't it possible [In reply to] Can't Post

That Celeborn was a member of the White Council?

I always assumed he was.


RoseCotton
Lorien


May 30 2011, 8:10pm

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I reckon all this hush-hush is because... [In reply to] Can't Post

Cumberbatch will be playing Bombadil! Smile


Eledhwen
Forum Admin / Moderator


May 30 2011, 8:13pm

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I always assumed he wasn't [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought the White Council was Elrond, Galadriel, Círdan, Gandalf and Saruman, and possibly some of the other Istari (eg Radagast) if they bothered to turn up. I always got the impression that Celeborn was rather less powerful than his wife, although wise in his own way (as most people would be if they'd lived that long).

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Rohan

May 30 2011, 8:25pm

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Ian Holm too. Today is an happy day. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Captain Salt
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May 30 2011, 8:25pm

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Celeborn was never exactly indentified as being on the White Council... [In reply to] Can't Post

but it was said to include the highest Elf Lords, of which we was certainly one, and as far as I'm aware, is generally assumed to have been a part of it.

I would rather be watching Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" and Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"...it's going to be a long few years.

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on May 30 2011, 8:30pm)


duats
Grey Havens

May 30 2011, 8:27pm

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Fair point [In reply to] Can't Post

But of all the characters announced thus far, I'd say Radagast seems out of place. I never thought of him as a member. As someone mentioned before, he neglected his duties in order to study the birds and beasts of Middle-earth. Based on how his character is written, I've never seen him taking part in the Council.


(This post was edited by duats on May 30 2011, 8:28pm)


duats
Grey Havens

May 30 2011, 8:30pm

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Let's hope so [In reply to] Can't Post

Cumberbatch as Smaug would be an incredible, left-field piece of casting.

Fingers crossed.


Morthoron
Gondor


May 30 2011, 8:47pm

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Not only was a Celeborn a member... [In reply to] Can't Post

I believe it was he who called the 2nd White Council.
Although it was probably at Galadriel's suggestion, seeing as she wore the pants in the family. Wink

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Mythopoeia
Bree

May 30 2011, 8:52pm

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I'm so happy right now, these were my ideal titles for the two films :D [In reply to] Can't Post

Just another sign that the films are going in the right direction, really.


Mythopoeia
Bree

May 30 2011, 10:00pm

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Oh, and this makes me wonder if [In reply to] Can't Post

it means we can count on the party not reaching Smaug and the Lonely Mountain until the second film? As it would be strange to call it 'There and Back Again' if 'There' was already reached in the first film.


The Grey Wanderer
Lorien


May 30 2011, 10:02pm

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Whether or not he is on the council per-say, it really depends on how the attack on Dol Guldur is portrayed... [In reply to] Can't Post

since appendix A to LOTR indicates he is the war leader of the Lorien elves ("Celeborn came forth and led the host of Lorien over Anduin in Many boats. They took Dol Guldur...". So, if it is just the White Council with a magic attack, he doesn't need to be there. But if it is an elf army, he should be there.

Though, maybe we will get XenaGaladriel instead, armed with her ancient and trusty elf weapon (OK, so I read "Bored of the Rings", so shoot me...).




Maiarmike
Grey Havens


May 30 2011, 10:20pm

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Great news! [In reply to] Can't Post

I liked the titles when I heard about them originally. Glad they went with 'An' not 'The' Unexpected Journey. There and Back Again is a given. Now we're just waiting on a couple roles. I have Dain, Bolg, Bard, and Smaug as the main roles to be announced yet. Don't think they're going to bother announcing any animals or trolls or creatures besides Smaug.

Nice to hear about Sir Christopher Lee as well, that just means they have a contract with him, but whether he is up to it when it comes the time is another story. Hopefully, he finds renewed energy and vigor in his step preparing to play Saruman once again. As for the acronyms for the titles, I'm going with UJ and TABA.

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Vangalad
Lorien


May 30 2011, 10:37pm

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So glad C.Lee will be back! [In reply to] Can't Post

I wasn't sure about the two titles in the first place, but now its official and starting to look more and more appropriate and familiar to me.


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Lorien


May 30 2011, 11:07pm

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I think we have collectively concluded as much, [In reply to] Can't Post

that they won't get to the mountain until the second movie. There have been many threads on the subject of where the break will be, but they don't get to the mountain until 2/3s the way through the book. A better question would be - does Legolas show up in the first movie or not?


KAOS82
Rohan


May 30 2011, 11:25pm

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very good choice [In reply to] Can't Post

when I red it before on facebook I wanted to put 1000 "I like it" Cool

and also Mir Lee join the party, W O N D E R F U L ! ! ! Wink

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Pete
Bree


May 31 2011, 12:19am

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Updated Hobbit Logos [In reply to] Can't Post

Just a quick Photoshop of the official Hobbit logo from the Facebook page with the new titles. I'm sure the final ones will look a million times better, but for now here ya go~






Ataahua
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May 31 2011, 12:26am

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Those look fantastic. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


May 31 2011, 12:29am

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Marvelous, simply marvelous! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanx.

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