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MTV Movie Blog talks to Saoirse Ronan on 'The Hobbit'
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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 9 2011, 4:32pm

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but planning to see Hanna tonight. I'll get back to you on the talented bit -- hopefully singing a different tune.

In the meantime, I can say that off camera she does nothing for me. It might have been anyone in that interview. Nothing really grabbed my attention.

For the sake of comparison I had the opposite reaction when Richard Armitage was announced. I wasn't crazy about the idea at first because what I had seen of his acting seemed affected. But when I saw him during the first press conference his charisma shone through. In fact that was his most striking attribute, to me.

I'm getting a little tired of having child "stars" pushed down my throat. Fame and stardom are so often fabricated, so seldom earned. Obviously child actors by definition have had less time to build a career than their young adult counterparts, and that's ok. But they shouldn't be out there competing with adults for lead roles. What's the rush?


duats
Grey Havens

Apr 9 2011, 5:57pm

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17-year-old Saoirse Ronan does not automatically equal a 17-year-old Primula Baggins.

In the Lord of the Rings, they made it appear as if the hobbits were the same age - or at the very least close together. Yet Billy Boyd was twelve years Elijah Wood's senior. Does that make Pippin twelve years older than Frodo?

Ronan has a maturity in her face. I could easily buy her as a young adult hobbit. Especially when you consider that an 18-year-old human would be the equivalent of a 33-year-old hobbit.

I honestly don't see the problem.


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R11
Lorien

Apr 9 2011, 6:09pm

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but planning to see Hanna tonight. I'll get back to you on the talented bit -- hopefully singing a different tune.

In the meantime, I can say that off camera she does nothing for me. It might have been anyone in that interview. Nothing really grabbed my attention.

For the sake of comparison I had the opposite reaction when Richard Armitage was announced. I wasn't crazy about the idea at first because what I had seen of his acting seemed affected. But when I saw him during the first press conference his charisma shone through. In fact that was his most striking attribute, to me.

I'm getting a little tired of having child "stars" pushed down my throat. Fame and stardom are so often fabricated, so seldom earned. Obviously child actors by definition have had less time to build a career than their young adult counterparts, and that's ok. But they shouldn't be out there competing with adults for lead roles. What's the rush?



You're just Grumpy! Wink Seriously though, it's not like her praise is unfounded and she hasn't done anything yet in her short career. I mean, she was nominated for an Oscar, BAFTA, and Golden Globe for her work in Attonement at the age of 13(?). And consider that she has quite a thick Irish accent yet you'd never know if from watching her in The Lovely Bones done when she was 14 or 15. That's something a lot of actors struggle with and are never able to master at any age...


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Kangi Ska
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Apr 9 2011, 7:04pm

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No matter what happens I will not be dissapointed. [In reply to] Can't Post

I might not think that dragging in Frodos family history is important for the telling of the Hobbit but if it does not get in the way it is fine. If they are there as back ground characters that is OK too. I just think that SR would never get cast in such a role. Especially after Hanna she looks like the Elf Warrior Wench to me.

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SirDennisC
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Apr 9 2011, 7:34pm

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and honestly I appreciate the jocularity, especially when I am being grumpy. Angelic

I have a huge problem with Oscar nominations one's first time out. Often an Oscar nomination can be fairly interpreted as part of the star making process. IOW they are not always "earned." It's far too subjective... and it matters a great deal what the field is like in a given year: as one winner quipped the year ROTK swept the Oscars, "We are thankful LOTR was not nominated in this category." (or something to that effect.)

But the Oscars is an entirely different discussion, one I really am not interested in having. To be fair though I will read a rebuttal if you have one.


R11
Lorien

Apr 9 2011, 8:13pm

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Agree with you about some of the child actors who appear to get inordinate attention for awards seemingly just because voters thought they were cute or whatever. Especially when it's at the expense of older actors who have done some really nice work with more difficult roles. I do think young Ms Ronan has shown herself to be a little more substantial than just the buzz of the moment though. But hey, at least you can be consoled that she didn't actually win that oscar Laugh.


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SirDennisC
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Apr 9 2011, 8:20pm

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Marge
The Shire

Apr 10 2011, 1:01am

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[PRIMULA BRANDYBUCK] Primula is a bright, lively and pretty young Hobbit. She is considered to be ‘wayward’ and ‘not proper’. But PRIMULA doesn’t care. Prone to letting words and thoughts tumble out of her mouth without pause, PRIMULA can also be acutely observant. Kind hearted with a loving nature, she is the type of person who can light up a room
LEAD. AGE: 18-27

I know everyone say S.Ronan has to play an elf but as I watched this MTV interview she would fit for the role of Primula.


why not role as human in the hobbit movie? or like the daughter of a king ?


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 10 2011, 1:47am

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SirDennisC
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Apr 10 2011, 3:09am

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that SR did a wonderful job in Hanna. I can totally see her playing an Elf warrior. Whether or not TH needs one as a key character...

*** slight SPOILER follows ***

The movie for the most part was not bad -- kind of Alice in Wonderland meets The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, minus the tattoos and other naughty bits. At its heart Hanna is a coming of age story. Pretty intelligent flick really.

What caught my attention early on was a reference to the brilliant coming of age movie My Life as a Dog. There were a couple nods to her future role in TH and one probably unintentional reference to Gollum in LOTR. At times, from certain angles, SR looked so much like Cate B I wondered if we were supposed to think she was her character's daughter.

I didn't think it was as good as that other girl assassin movie Kick-A%$ since KA took more time to develop characters other than the lead. (Perhaps they could have cut down on some of the sprinting scenes to make room for dialogue?) I freely admit that the comparison isn't entirely fair though since they are completely different approaches to a similar problem. As well, Hanna is supposed to be believable and therefore has less room to maneuver than the average action/assassin movie. Like I said though, not bad. I'm glad I had a chance to see it on the big screen.


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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 10 2011, 8:06am

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Thanks SirD. Am looking forward to seeing Hanna as soon as I am off this shift.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal

Apr 10 2011, 6:27pm

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If the supposed casting call is 18-27 and she is 16 going on 17 (someone cue sound of music please) how is that artistic license? Especially when you imply she's too old?


I thought that my meaning was self-evident. Sorry if I was mistaken. I was using Tolkien's timeline and not the casting call (the details of which had escaped me). Primula Brandybuck was born in TA 2920, making her twenty or twenty-one years old at the time of The Hobbit. Since Hobbits seem to age and mature at approximately 2/3s the rate of Men (being recognized as adults at age thirty-three), Primula would be equivalent to a human girl of around fourteen years old.


FrodoEyes
Rivendell

Apr 11 2011, 3:32pm

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You're right, it's not a serious or angry outburst, just an observation. I'll be quiet now! :-D

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DrewS17
The Shire

Apr 12 2011, 4:30am

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Is that you?



Uh no, but i'm definitely a fan of hers and I'm excited for TH.........and just bringing up obvious things that people seem to be bypassing in order to say things like "she's campaigning for a role".


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