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MTV Movie Blog talks to Saoirse Ronan on 'The Hobbit'
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Symbelmine
Rohan


Apr 8 2011, 7:26pm

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He got the script [In reply to] Can't Post

which means his character is in it.


FrodoEyes
Rivendell

Apr 8 2011, 7:30pm

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To be honest [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm quite bored of it now. I'm hearing more about her than i am about the film itself.

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Apr 8 2011, 7:31pm

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This...// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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R11
Lorien

Apr 8 2011, 7:47pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post


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I don't find it hard to believe at all that 'Itaril' or some other new character was already floating around in Jackson's mind three years ago.

Let me just add that it is possible that Ms. Ronan could play more than one roll.



Why not two! Cool





BTW, I do agree with you that PJ could easily have had a role like Itaril in mind back then.


ron


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 8:24pm

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Did you ever notice her name? [In reply to] Can't Post

It is about as Irish as you can get.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 8:25pm

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She is definitly an Elf. [In reply to] Can't Post

All wrong for a Hobbit.

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Kangi Ska
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Apr 8 2011, 8:26pm

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Yah like "Bring those spoons back here now!" // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 8:32pm

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That is wrong in so many ways... [In reply to] Can't Post

Weren't you pushing Annatar a while back? I am suggesting that Sauron can not manifest a body until he returns to Baradur and I am worried that Jackson makes him an eyeball until he has the ring to make him whole again.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 8:34pm

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"which is more than Ms. Ronan has said.' [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes Orly said that.

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R11
Lorien

Apr 8 2011, 8:39pm

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Really....? [In reply to] Can't Post

She's got loads of charisma if you ask me. Especially for a kid who just turned 17. And mature beyond her short years too. Here's another interesting, more low key interview from a couple years ago where she talks a bit about what it was like working with PJ, Fran and Philippa on the Lovely Bones:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/1HQLD-GR89g


And a short but funny one here from the George Lopez show talking about the pronunciation of her name:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/vC8dDb6fkD0



ron


Symbelmine
Rohan


Apr 8 2011, 8:39pm

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she isn't an elf [In reply to] Can't Post



Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 8:54pm

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No hairy toes for that little lady. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll bet she gets one of them curved Elf swords like Arwen.

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Symbelmine
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Apr 8 2011, 8:59pm

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you would give a sword to this little lady? [In reply to] Can't Post

:D


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 9:07pm

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I have not been bored fo 40 years. [In reply to] Can't Post

Life is far too interesting.

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Kangi Ska
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Apr 8 2011, 9:08pm

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If I could. Go see "Hanna" it opened here today.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Flagg
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Apr 8 2011, 9:11pm

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I was not endorsing the idea of a female Sauron [In reply to] Can't Post

I was simply pointing out that it would be very interesting. Some members here have said that they hope for a female Smaug; a female Sauron seems like a much more acceptable idea, considering that he is an inherently spiritual and non-biological entity. (Again, that is not to say that I want this to happen.) Sauron did indeed have a body during his stay in Dol Guldur; I believe Tolkien specifically stated this in 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'.

I like Annatar (<--- as you can see) and would be interested in seeing some glimpse of him in the Necromancer scenes, perhaps as an astral projection of some sort (this was an idea the filmmakers previously explored for the Black Gate showdown). This would not necessarily contradict Tolkien's statement that Sauron could not take on a fair form. We know he could still create fair works (the ring is a thing of beauty), so conjuring an alluring mirage should not be beyond his powers. A possible precedent is in The Silmarillion; Melkor created a ghostly image of the dead wife of a minor character (whose name eludes me) in order to deceive him into doing something or other (it's been a while since I've read it).


Otaku-sempai
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Apr 8 2011, 9:25pm

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Aargh! [In reply to] Can't Post

Of course I meant 'role' and not 'roll'. Erg.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 9:31pm

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Nice buns! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Oiot疵i
Tol Eressea


Apr 8 2011, 9:42pm

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I took the question more as [In reply to] Can't Post

"what race would you want to be?" than "what race would your character in the movie to be?"

I'm sure she'd take any role offered her


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R11
Lorien

Apr 8 2011, 9:48pm

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She doesn't need a sword [In reply to] Can't Post

She's already got the archery training. All she needs now is a little shield surfing experience and she'll be good to go!


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And about those The Hobbit rumors...will her archery training come in handy for that film?:

Saoirse Ronan: "Well I知 not confirmed to do The Hobbit yet. If I did get a part, I知 sure it would come in handy because a lot of the characters in that film live in the woods and have makeshift weapons and things like that. So yeah, it probably would. We値l see if that happens."





http://movies.about.com/...-Hanna-interview.htm


ron


Symbelmine
Rohan


Apr 8 2011, 10:14pm

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"lots of characters in this movie lives in woods" [In reply to] Can't Post

  

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And about those The Hobbit rumors...will her archery training come in handy for that film?:

Saoirse Ronan: "Well I知 not confirmed to do The Hobbit yet. If I did get a part, I知 sure it would come in handy because a lot of the characters in that film live in the woods and have makeshift weapons and things like that. So yeah, it probably would. We値l see if that happens."





http://movies.about.com/...-Hanna-interview.htm


I think she indirectly confirms Itaril and that she is waiting to get this role.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 8 2011, 10:30pm

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I like swords. Swords are good. [In reply to] Can't Post

If she is part of a bodyguard she will have a sword.

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R11
Lorien

Apr 8 2011, 10:50pm

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Yep [In reply to] Can't Post

Except I'd say she already has the role but just can't say so yet.


ron


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Tol Eressea


Apr 8 2011, 11:23pm

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Why? [In reply to] Can't Post

Tolkien had no female characters in the Hobbit. It is not difficult to imagine Thranduil's family, or Bard's family, or just the random citizens around that part of Middle-earth.

I suppose that I, as a fan fic writer, am more sympathetic to characters made up for the films than others here are. Then again, I thought he used his Rohan family in TTT effectively. Just so long as it's not overdone...

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Plurmo
Rohan

Apr 8 2011, 11:31pm

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To reinforce your argument, [In reply to] Can't Post

it was Sauron, not Morgoth, who created the ghost of Eilinel.

Contrary to the current views, I believe what we call Itaril to be the first draft of what was fused with Arwen and became known as XenArwen. Those scriptmakers have been studying the books for ages and must have had an immense amount of strange ideas during the writing process. Women Mouths of Sauron (that hat was incredible suspicious wasn't it?,) women Sauron, Kimberly the Pink...

This idea that Saoirse could be a Third Age hobbit is rather strange. She could be perhaps a Fourth Age hobbit if her hair was curled. Sarah McLeod (Rosie Cotton) was already way beyond what would be a queen among hobbits. She was more in Goldberry level than hobbit. But Saoirse is downright elvish.

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