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KEY ROLES FILLED BY STUART TOWNSEND, SAIORSE RONAN FOR THE HOBBIT
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willowing
Lorien

Apr 2 2011, 6:38am

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Key the words Movies.ie into your google search engine and click the News tab [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Steerpike
Bree


Apr 2 2011, 6:45am

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movies.ie [In reply to] Can't Post

I love the way the movies.ie site is so keen to stress "This one isn't an April Fools joke... we promise!". That's some quality journalism right there.


Owain
Tol Eressea


Apr 2 2011, 7:41am

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And what are we supposed to see?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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willowing
Lorien

Apr 2 2011, 9:54am

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The previous response was to "Sir DennisC" request as to what [In reply to] Can't Post

other sites or links are reporting in regards to the Stu Townsend/Saoirse Ronan admittance to the Hobbit cast? Now back to your query.

In that link is an article headlining "Irish Actors join The Hobbit"......

Cool


Owain
Tol Eressea


Apr 2 2011, 1:39pm

Post #105 of 129 (499 views)
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Hmmm.... Typed in your keywords [In reply to] Can't Post

And selected the News tab... Nothing hobbit related came up. I'm guessing that google is feeding relevant news to your area?

Makes sense now, thanks.Smile

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Magpie
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Apr 2 2011, 4:12pm

Post #106 of 129 (492 views)
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I'm probably not following this sub thread completely [In reply to] Can't Post

I dip in and out of conversations and it's sometimes hard to back track to see what all leads up to a post.

But... it seems like the discussion is: some sites took TORn's April Fools' prank as fact and reported it as news.

If I type >> Stuart Townsend Hobbit << into google news, I get this page.

At the moment, there are two hits. The first one has the headline: "Saoirse Ronan & Stuart Townsend land roles in Middle-Earth" and the top link leads to Monsters and Critics. But under the synopis are three more links (Filmonic, Movies.ie, and TORn) a link that says, "all 5 news articles"

Clicking on the "all 5 news articles" link leads you to this page. This has the four pages shown on the first google news search results page and an additional one that leads to The Hobbit in 5, also here at TORn. CORRECTION: I made an assumption from what I found last night and didn't read the results page. Last night, Google news provided the original prank article and Hobbit in 5. Today the two TORn links are just the original prank article and one posted since then about Ronan. It does not include the Hobbit in 5 article.

Last night, there were 7 hits on this page but two links lead to 'dead' pages which indicates that two other sites also had this on their 'news' page but pulled them down (after being gathered by google news) once they suspected it was an April Fool's Joke.

I also did a Google general search for the same words and set the search parameters to show only the last 24 hours. That gave me more pages as results, but most of them were from forums or comments on an article. (so, otherwise... fans were talking about the Prank article but it wasn't being reported there as an actual news article by the site itself).

I've been following this for various reasons illuminated in this thread and on Feedback. I hope I've provided what you seek. If not, and you'd like me to take another stab at it, perhaps bringing me up to speed on exactly what you're seeking would help me do that.

Or perhaps I'm so off the mark that I'm not being useful all all. :-)
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hutch
Rohan


Apr 2 2011, 7:41pm

Post #107 of 129 (481 views)
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was not fooled one iota [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool...i thought it was funny though. no need to worry about actors; its all in good fun.


willowing
Lorien

Apr 2 2011, 7:50pm

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Referring back to the "news" tab on Movies.ie, there is a list at the right side of the page [In reply to] Can't Post

...click on the news article that interests you. Or you can use the links that "Magpie" provided recently in his blog. Unimpressed


Ataahua
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Apr 2 2011, 9:04pm

Post #109 of 129 (466 views)
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Aww, that's not fun. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Last night, there were 7 hits on this page but two links lead to 'dead' pages which indicates that two other sites also had this on their 'news' page but pulled them down (after being gathered by google news) once they suspected it was an April Fool's Joke.



I figure that if you fell for an April Fool's joke, you should be big enough to not hide your gullibility but 'fess up to it with good grace - for example, news sites keeping the stories they ran with a note that 'Yep, we were fooled!'

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Annael
Half-elven


Apr 2 2011, 11:57pm

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I doubt very much Stuart knows or cares. [In reply to] Can't Post

I laughed out loud, because I took it as a joke on/for the community here, especially those of us who were here in 1999 and spent no little amount of time debating whether Stuart was too young/too short for the role (I was one of those who was upset at the casting and glad when he was removed & replaced with Viggo).

For that reason it would have been even funnier, but subtler, if they'd announced that Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman would play roles . . .

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MissBaggins
Bree


Apr 3 2011, 6:27pm

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I'm really glad that this DID turn out to be an April Fool's joke. [In reply to] Can't Post

There would have been A LOT of angry fans where Itaril is concerned, but to be honest Mr. Townsend is probably owed a role in this movie!

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Magpie
Immortal


Apr 3 2011, 6:34pm

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I guess he was in Aeon Flux too but all I remember of that movie is Marton Csokas (Celeborn) and Charlize Theron (coincidence?).



I couldn't remember him being in that movie either. Last night I wanted a video to watch and I just don't own a lot of videos. Aeon Flux is one I do.. I bought it cheap because I was interested in the design of it. I watched and thought I spotted him at the beginning but never saw him after that. I just checked imdb and he is listed but as 'uncredited Monican'.

I'm certain he is the Monican who slips Aeon the pill at the beginning. He is only onscreen for less than a minute and the shot of him isn't great. So, I don't think your not remembering him has anything to do with his talent or lack thereof of it. :-)





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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 3 2011, 7:49pm

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What should have been a tip-off... [In reply to] Can't Post

...even before seeing the clue at the bottom of the entry was that Saoirse Ronan's name was misspelled throughout the article.

Townsend is what? 39 now? He isn't too young to play Bard, but he might be too pretty. Then again, I could say the same of the rumored Mr. Fassbender.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal

Apr 3 2011, 8:09pm

Post #114 of 129 (403 views)
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Well, maybe not... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Townsend is what? 39 now? He isn't too young to play Bard, but he might be too pretty. Then again, I could say the same of the rumored Mr. Fassbender.


Correction: Michael Fassbender just turned 34; that is a bit younger than I would consider for casting Bard (who I see as somewhere between 40 and 50 years old).



Eldaria
Rivendell


Apr 3 2011, 9:23pm

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my choice for Bard [In reply to] Can't Post


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Michael Fassbender just turned 34; that is a bit younger than I would consider for casting Bard (who I see as somewhere between 40 and 50 years old).



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Owain
Tol Eressea


Apr 3 2011, 9:25pm

Post #116 of 129 (393 views)
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I had seen him as one of the dwarves awhile back... [In reply to] Can't Post

Haven't really seen him in anything other than Braveheart... he was good in that.

I'm still rooting for Fassbender.

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Patty
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Apr 3 2011, 10:33pm

Post #117 of 129 (402 views)
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Yep, that was Stuart... [In reply to] Can't Post

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 3 2011, 11:37pm

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Checked the db too [In reply to] Can't Post

that must be it, yes Magpie. While over there I noticed that of the handful of movies he's been in since 2000 many were with Charlize. One was called Head in the Clouds in which he was the male lead, but I had never heard of it.

I hate to say it because in some areas of life this applies to many of us as well, but maybe his time has passed? He kind of splashed on the scene during the goth/vampire (Anne Rice?) craze of the late 90s. Even without leaving LOTR he may have been in the twilight (ouch) of his career? Of course the loss of the role, especially after the films did so well, may have really messed with his mind. If so, he has my sympathy.


Eruthurin
Rivendell


Apr 4 2011, 2:24pm

Post #119 of 129 (374 views)
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Fassbender is perfect for the role.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I actually thought he was 40 or something alike.. for me he looks older than he is.....
at least on 300 or Inglorious bastards he looks like.....
so I wouldn't have any problem with him portraying Bard.... he's an excellent actor....!..... and handsome too! Blush

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bowencm
Rivendell

Apr 4 2011, 2:45pm

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not cool [In reply to] Can't Post

that's it, just not cool.

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Symbelmine
Rohan


Apr 4 2011, 8:00pm

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I think Stuart Townsend should be in The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think he would be good choice to play Bard but I'm sure he would make awesome elf.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 4 2011, 8:06pm

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I am not impressed with Mr. Townsend's acting. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it would be good if he were not involved with the Hobbit.

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jrpipik
Rivendell


Apr 4 2011, 8:08pm

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Who would want to work with someone who said this about you? [In reply to] Can't Post

Townsend from EW April, 2002:
"I had been having a rough time with them, so I was almost relieved to be leaving until they told me I wouldn't be paid. I have no good feelings for those people in charge, I really don't."


Symbelmine
Rohan


Apr 4 2011, 8:15pm

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wow [In reply to] Can't Post

I didn't know that.


jrpipik
Rivendell


Apr 4 2011, 9:28pm

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I know it's reading between the lines... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but it sounded to me like Jackson and Townsend had major problems. Later PJ had to be careful not to say anything that could hurt Townsend's career, lest he face a lawsuit. So they used the story of Townsend being too young for the role, as if that just occurred to them. But it is an obvious difference between the two, since Mortenson is 14 years older than Townsend, so it sounded credible. Townsend getting fired from Thor just before shooting with the notoriously actor-friendly Kenneth Brannaugh directing won't help his rep any.

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