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KEY ROLES FILLED BY STUART TOWNSEND, SAIORSE RONAN FOR THE HOBBIT
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Ufthak
Rivendell


Apr 1 2011, 9:32pm

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What can I say? [In reply to] Can't Post

I learned from the... worst.

"Who the hell are you?" he growled.
"I the hell am Harry," I said.
He pulled out his own gym bag and slammed the car door closed. "You always a wiseass?"
"No. Sometimes I'm asleep."

-Harry Dresden, 'Blood Rites', A Novel of The Dresden Files


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Apr 1 2011, 9:33pm

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You and your whip have been sorely missed, too. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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NABOUF
Not a TORns*b!
Certified Curmudgeon


Owain
Tol Eressea


Apr 1 2011, 9:36pm

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For the record... I haven't taken any pot shots... [In reply to] Can't Post

at anyone who took offense to the jokes. I do think people might need to lighten up a bit about this considering the context.

Smile

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Ufthak
Rivendell


Apr 1 2011, 9:38pm

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I bet you say that to all the orcs [In reply to] Can't Post

*ahem*

Eh, I'm a busy bee. Writing, music, working, that sort of jazz (well, not actual jazz. I mean, ick). I keep meaning to stop by, and also keep forgetting. Besides, I hardly know most of the people round these parts anymore, and I've probably forgotten what manners I once had for posting in a family forum.

"Who the hell are you?" he growled.
"I the hell am Harry," I said.
He pulled out his own gym bag and slammed the car door closed. "You always a wiseass?"
"No. Sometimes I'm asleep."

-Harry Dresden, 'Blood Rites', A Novel of The Dresden Files


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Apr 1 2011, 9:52pm

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*snirt* [In reply to] Can't Post


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I've probably forgotten what manners I once had for posting in a family forum.

Oh, there's been quite a lot of that on the Hobbit Board these days. Doesn't stop them from posting, so please don't let it stop you.


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NARF
NABOUF
Not a TORns*b!
Certified Curmudgeon


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Apr 1 2011, 10:00pm

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Exactly [In reply to] Can't Post

I suppose it's a bit different when it's on the front page, but it's April Fool's day, so I say go for it


..The land of long-forgotten name:
......no man may ever anchor near;
..No steering star his hope may aim,
......for nether Night its marches drear,
..And waters wide no sail may tame,
......with shores encircled dark and sheer.

..O! Haven where my heart would be!
......the waves beat upon thy bar
..For ever echo endlessly,
......when longing leads thy thought afar


Ufthak
Rivendell


Apr 1 2011, 10:08pm

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Heh. [In reply to] Can't Post

When I was butting heads with Orcbane on here a while back Altaira edited one of my responses because I called him an 'idiot'.

Not that I'm in the habit of abusing other posters regularly, mind, but I suspect my default language would offend sensitive eyes and I can't be ars- I mean, can't be bothered to self-censor that much :p

"Who the hell are you?" he growled.
"I the hell am Harry," I said.
He pulled out his own gym bag and slammed the car door closed. "You always a wiseass?"
"No. Sometimes I'm asleep."

-Harry Dresden, 'Blood Rites', A Novel of The Dresden Files


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 1 2011, 10:12pm

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Interested in what other sites are reporting this. [In reply to] Can't Post

site names or links would be appreciated Smile

eta: Filmonic had a link but the announcement has disappeared.


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Apr 1 2011, 10:16pm)


rings7
Rohan


Apr 1 2011, 10:17pm

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Those who didn't think it was a joke [In reply to] Can't Post

clearly didn't read the whole article, especially the last sentence. 100% joke.


dave_lf
Gondor

Apr 1 2011, 10:21pm

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Here are 2 [In reply to] Can't Post

Here are two. Neither bothered to mention they'd gotten the scoop from TORN, so serves 'em right:
http://www.movies.ie/movie%20news/Irish_actors_join_the_Hobbit__Stuart_Townsend__Saoirse_Ronan_head_to_MiddleEarth
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/movies/news/article_1630201.php/Saoirse-Ronan-&-Stuart-Townsend-land-roles-in-Middle-Earth


(This post was edited by dave_lf on Apr 1 2011, 10:22pm)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 1 2011, 10:39pm

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Cool [In reply to] Can't Post

Those two, plus the now-dead Filmonic link (at least they are kinda paying attention), plus one at a site called "New Release Movie" (which does credit TORn), and a couple mentions on a German collector's site and Sideshow collector's site... not bad so far.


Ref
Rivendell


Apr 1 2011, 10:42pm

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*tuts* [In reply to] Can't Post


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so strongly to this. I doubt Stuart Townsend has ever been on these boards, and if he isn't used to the rumor mill that is the world wide web by now, then I would have to ask what rock he is living under.

tORN had to pick relevant topics to make the joke... Itaril and the casting of Bard seem very relevant to me. They keep coming up as topics on the boards again and again and again and again and again and again...

If Stuart Townsend can't laugh at himself after 10 years, then I would say he can hold a pretty serious grudge.


I must say that I think this 'joke' is in poor taste. Like many others have stated, most of the LotR actors saw their careers rocket (for the first few years at any rate). Think of the doors that that role could have opened for him.

Viewers of a nervous disposition may be interested to know that your television is off and I am speaking to you from inside your head...

*~* Hugh Dennis, Mock the Week *~*

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 1 2011, 10:46pm

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Apart from the vague-ish last line [In reply to] Can't Post

and, for those familiar with TORn, the date, there is nothing to indicate it is a joke. And setting the likelihood that Townsend would be interested in working for PJ again aside, the content is completely plausible.

Still waiting for an announcement that at least some of it is true.Evil


Maiarmike
Grey Havens


Apr 1 2011, 10:57pm

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Indeed. [In reply to] Can't Post

I actually think Stuart would probably make a good Bard, if he were offered the role, and was up for it.

"I'm just a happy camper! Rockin' and a-rollin!"


RosieLass
Valinor


Apr 1 2011, 11:26pm

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Well, then why stop with Townsend? [In reply to] Can't Post

What about the actors they cast as Gil-Galad and Elendil, who mostly ended up on the cutting room floor? Are we supposed to still tiptoe around their feelings, too? Their names haven't exactly become household words, either.

Winning and losing roles is part of the price you pay for being an actor.



It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)


nenyacaster
Bree


Apr 2 2011, 12:59am

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hmm [In reply to] Can't Post

That is kind of nasty to bring up the bitter role Stuart Townsend played in LOTR. They could have made a joke about David Bowie being cast as Thranduil instead, with no black shadow under it. Stuart would make a good choice for Bard...


(This post was edited by nenyacaster on Apr 2 2011, 1:00am)


Owain
Tol Eressea


Apr 2 2011, 3:12am

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Except for context... [In reply to] Can't Post

It's April 1st... which in the U.S. is April Fool's Day. From my understanding many tORN staff are based in the U.S.

And history would indicate this is a joke.

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Owain
Tol Eressea


Apr 2 2011, 3:23am

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Nasty? [In reply to] Can't Post

Still not understanding where people are getting bad taste, mean spirited, nasty... from this at all.


Stuart Townsend has had access to many opportunities and unfortunately for him, they haven't panned out.

He recently walked out on the blockbuster "Thor" directed by none other than the fantastic Kenneth Branagh.... over "creative differences". This was announced January 31st of this year.

It starts to make me wonder after awhile. He got fired from Lord of the Rings from a major role and 10 years later he walks from a film that will have international exposure with huge names attached (Kenneth Branagh, Natalie Portman).

Also, he was the partner of Charlize Theron for 10 years until this January. Which means they started dating when the Lord of the Rings fist came out.

Charlize Theron is one of the most successful actors in the world. Her life was completely intertwined with Stuart Townsend. Why is this important? How is this relevant? The one thing that people who work in the business understand is that its all about who you know.

Stuart would have had access to some of the top people in the film making world... just by association... for 10 years.

Frankly, if he can't create a connection and jump-start his career with all of the opportunity that he has seen... I don't feel bad for him at all.

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Apr 2 2011, 3:24am

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I was here at the time [In reply to] Can't Post


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Assuming that there might have been some "drama" on the board around the issue (yes, I know what assuming does) - it seemed a provocative topic to pick for a joke.


IIRC, a lot of people had been very concerned (or outright unhappy) about Townsend's casting in the first place, so mostly the reaction was people concerned about the last-minuteness and who would replace him. If my memory isn't being too selective, I think Viggo's casting was greeted with relief and satisfaction by most.


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Especially considering how many fans are waiting on the edge of their seat for casting news, LOL.




Yes, that's why they did it...easier to "get" people who are already pre-emotional over something. Your work is practically done for you. Evil As an April Fool's prank, I thought this was pretty good - equal parts believable and controversial. The TORN PTB do love to get people riled up on this day, though nothing beats the year they announced that New Line had taken over the site....that one caused outright panic, and they didn't admit it was a joke until the next day. Sly

Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
-On Fairy Stories


Magpie
Immortal


Apr 2 2011, 3:47am

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lots of interesting stuff here [In reply to] Can't Post

first: a few of us are discussing on feedback whether this was an April Fool's Prank. Make no mistake about it... all of us believed it to be but we had to admit believing and knowing are two different things. Silverlode, you seem to be all but admitting it is a prank. :-)

Why did it matter? Because other sites are reporting it as news. Now, if it was a TORn prank, then the only place they would get this news is from TORn's home page. That means two things;
  • Some people will report anything as fact with no other verification than 'they read it someplace else'
  • Most of those sites are not crediting TORn and they *had* to get it from TORn.
As one of the 'historians' of the site (not an official title!), I'll be monitoring those sites to see what happens if/when TORn verifies this as a prank.

Probably not many of the readers of The Hobbit board know that there's a slowly moving project to document the history of TORn. The work is being compiled in a wiki format and April Fool's pranks happens to be one of the few articles that is actually in decent condition. (It can be expanded but it's tidy. You should see the work in progress pages!)

You can see the article here:
http://mathom-house.net/...ain/AprilFoolsPranks

The quote at the top of the page is from last year's prank:
"TheOneRing.net has a long tradition of convincing and slightly irritating April Fool pranks."
Celeborn, TORn Staffer, April 1, 2010

ha.. that's right. This year's drama is nothing compared to last year's. And I think there were actually two pranks that had to be pulled down due to protest from people that mattered. But that was before my time. I just dug through the dusty archives looking for clues and imprints of pages now gone.


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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 2 2011, 3:51am

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Completely OT here [In reply to] Can't Post

This reminds me of a blurb I saw today where Miley Cyrus was complaining about Justin Bieber's easy road to fame. Something along the lines of "it should be harder to become an artist than just posting videos on YouTube." Hello kettle? This is pot...

Taking all you have to say about ST in, it does seem he has had more than a fair share of opportunities. Maybe it's him? The last movie I really noticed him in was Queen of the Damned (if you think Stuart had it bad, look what happend to Aaliyah). I guess he was in Aeon Flux too but all I remember of that movie is Marton Csokas (Celeborn) and Charlize Theron (coincidence?).


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Apr 2 2011, 4:01am

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Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

It would be impossible to "admit" something I have no inside information on, but I draw my own conclusions. Cool

Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
-On Fairy Stories


Magpie
Immortal


Apr 2 2011, 4:02am

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gotcha (as in, I understand.. not as in.. I found you out) :-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Apr 2 2011, 4:33am

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I've just been reading [In reply to] Can't Post

the responses to that 2001 joke via Magpie's 'mathom' post on Feedback. A couple of people got royally het up, didn't they? Hi-larious. Laugh

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Apr 2 2011, 4:44am

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And that was only [In reply to] Can't Post

the after-the-reveal thread about the emails he got. I wish we had a link to the original discussion on the boards about the fake news story. People were completely freaking out.

Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
-On Fairy Stories

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