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Orlando Bloom: In or Out of The Hobbit?

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Mar 16 2011, 11:15am

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Orlando Bloom: In or Out of The Hobbit? Can't Post

Mona2505 sends this in: Seems that Orlando Bloom is in fact still in talks concerning the hobbit. Came across an interview today, where he refuses to comment on the Hobbit as he is not allowed to. You can find the original interview here. I happened to come across a translation of that interview here, just in case you don't speak Spanish.

"...and his return to the Elvish world" The Hobbit "movie about he does not say a word. "They do not allow me", he explains."


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Bombadil
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Mar 16 2011, 4:31pm

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IMDB.com just qouted him...yesterday [In reply to] Can't Post

"he and his wife and new Baby are flying down to NZ to join with his pals, Elijah, Sir Ian and the rest to be in the Movie.


Flagg
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Mar 16 2011, 4:33pm

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Perhaps they're still haggling over that rumoured $1 million cameo. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Pipe Dream
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Mar 16 2011, 4:36pm

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Something... [In reply to] Can't Post

...lost in translation I'll bet. He probably said, no comment.

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To its 34 years, Bloom still expands its quality of youthful idol and prepares two papers already to devastate: the one of Duke of Buckingham in the new version of “the three mosqueteros” -” a different personage, who does not get to be villain but he is like a great boy”, says and his return to the élfico world in “The Hobbit”, film of which does not say nor word. “They do not leave me”, is justified.


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chrismortega
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Mar 16 2011, 4:41pm

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well... [In reply to] Can't Post

Meh... I guess the impact this has depends on how Peter, Fran, and Phillipa wrote him in to the story. He's not really an integral part in the book, but that doesn't mean diddly for the script.

I'd like to see Orlando return I guess, but I'd rather see John Rhys-Davies. Too bad he doesn't want to do it. I hope they at least let him come down and give the dwarves some lessons in being dwarfish. I heard he had volunteered for that and never heard back from Peter's camp. Does anyone know if John is part of this production or not?

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RosieLass
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Mar 16 2011, 4:48pm

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To be honest... [In reply to] Can't Post

I wouldn't miss JRD any more than I'd miss Orlando, since Gimli's contribution to "dwarvishness" seemed to consist mostly of gas and bad jokes. Pirate



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Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 4:53pm

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It's confusing [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't understand if he meant he is not allowed to talk about his role or is not allowed to say if he will be in or not.


Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 4:55pm

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IMDB [In reply to] Can't Post

is not very good source of informations IMO.


Bombadil
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Mar 16 2011, 5:03pm

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Well, we shall soon see.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I personally expect an Offical Press Release confirming him IN!...I don't think he is just going there TO SURF with Elijah.


painjoiker
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Mar 16 2011, 5:03pm

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He said "no comment"... [In reply to] Can't Post

He's not allowed to talk about the role, so I guess he's in;)
Several news-sites have stated he's in for some time now, and I see no reason why eh shouldn't be in the film if both he and Jackson wants to (which seems to be the case)


Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 5:05pm

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did Orlando say he is going to NZ? [In reply to] Can't Post

In the interview he said he wasn't allowed to talk about The Hobbit.


Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 5:20pm

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strange... [In reply to] Can't Post

He is not even allowed to say "I will be in the movie"and if his role will be just a cameo or big.
Sounds strange to me.


painjoiker
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Mar 16 2011, 5:41pm

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They want to surprise us ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Arwen's daughter
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Mar 16 2011, 5:45pm

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I don't think it's unusual [In reply to] Can't Post

If he were to say he'll be in The Hobbit for sure before the contracts have all been signed then either he or the studio would be in big trouble with the fans/press if the deal fell through. It could give Orlando some leverage in any negotiating that's happening and I suspect the studios want to avoid that at all costs. I don't think it's unusual for actors to be signed to confidentiality agreements during negotiations, but perhaps someone has more knowledge than I do.

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Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 5:50pm

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what you say makes sense [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for this post.It cleared things up for me a bit.
So he is probably still in negotiation.

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Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 5:52pm

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I think it will be bad surprise [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't want him to be in this movie.
The reason:Itaril.


RosieLass
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Mar 16 2011, 6:21pm

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We don't know who Itaril is yet. [In reply to] Can't Post

There was quite a furor over the invented character of Morwen when they were filming LOTR, and that turned out to be a tempest in a teapot.

I'm still plumping for her being Lego's kid sister and Lego gets sent to the BOFA because sending him to his room for teasing his sister is having no effect. Cool



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Symbelmine
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Mar 16 2011, 6:40pm

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Morwen [In reply to] Can't Post

wow never heard there was such a rumor.I can imagine Tolkien fans were furious and confused.

I wouldn't mind to see some relatives of Legolas even if they would be made up.
But I don't think Itaril will be Thranduils' daughter.She is supposed to be his guard if the casting call was true.


BlueMan
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Mar 16 2011, 7:17pm

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About Morwen - [In reply to] Can't Post

you do realize that she in fact is in The Two Towers, don't you? She is the woman who puts her two children on a horse when that village in Rohan gets burned down.

The point, as I take it, was to say: If Itaril in fact turns out to be an invented character like Morwen, that could be a good thing. Morwen was created to give the people of Rohan a personal face that the audience could relate to. In The Hobbit there are many scenes in which "an elf" talks or in which "the elves" act as a group. It might be very sensible to create a character that is part of the group but has a personality that we can understand.

Personally, I am convinced that Bloom has long signed but is not allowed to talk about his role - because they don't want to give anything away about the structure of the scripts yet.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 16 2011, 7:22pm

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I think that it is more likely that no deal has been reached yet [In reply to] Can't Post

My guess is that, like with Sir Ian Holm, there have been discussions but no final deal signed, which is why he can't even confirm that he is in the film(s). That was even the case for quite a while with the other Sir Ian.

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Arwen's daughter
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Mar 16 2011, 8:00pm

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I think you're right [In reply to] Can't Post

Which would suggest that any role he'd have isn't all that large. I would think that any major role would have to have been confirmed during the scripting process.

Or am I grasping at straws again? Cool

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mendil
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Mar 16 2011, 8:35pm

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Plus the studio will insist that it controls how any casting announcement is done. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 16 2011, 8:37pm

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That makes sense to me [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it is pretty clear that no one other than Bloom is going to play Legolas. Either he will play the role or the role won't exist. It is not like Bard or Thranduil, which are likely to be more major roles, but which could be played by a lot of different actors. The fact that they have not been announced doesn't suggest that the roles are small, or potentially eliminated. But the fact that Bloom has not been confirmed does suggest to me that Legolas' role is small.

Or maybe I'm grasping at straws, too. But at least we would be doing so together. Smile

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Maiarmike
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Mar 16 2011, 8:37pm

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To me... [In reply to] Can't Post

...this almost certainly means he'll be in the film in some respect. Otherwise he would have said, "Nope". I think it's supposed to be a surprise, with a lot of these returning actors anyways, maybe not Hugo Weaving, but the rest of them.


Gaga
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Mar 18 2011, 9:16am

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True!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Orlando just did an interview on british tv show called "Daybreak" he said he has really exiting things lined up but he cant talk about it :) I think its abot the hobbit now :)


Rinhriveiel
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Mar 19 2011, 3:59am

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Orlando in or out [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think it means Orlando's necessarily in, just because he is not allowed to talk about it. It could be simply that they have not yet decided, and do not want to raise people's hopes/make them angry for nothing.

I hope he's not added in, because it would require some sort of fake side-plot that we do not need to be added. Too often, when new stuff is added, the good original bits are thrown by the wayside...

But we'll see. :)


Kangi Ska
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Mar 19 2011, 5:06am

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By all rights Legolas would have been residing at the Woodland Realm [In reply to] Can't Post

at the time Thorin & Company were held there, so his presence would be acceptable and not be a "fake side-plot". However, as I said earlier, If they make him central to the plot in any really significant way they will be treading close to the edge.

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painjoiker
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Mar 19 2011, 12:04pm

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I hope we'll see Legolas in the hall of Tranduil, [In reply to] Can't Post

with a few lines maybe, no big role
And at the battle of the five armies, no big role there either. Just something to be remembered for, while not stealing the spotlight from any of the main characters ;)


xy
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Mar 19 2011, 4:48pm

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So there is still hope he's not int the movie ? [In reply to] Can't Post

Good.


Flagg
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Mar 19 2011, 5:07pm

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If Orlando Bloom is in talks, Legolas is in the script. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Mar 19 2011, 5:37pm

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Yep. Well said, Kangi. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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painjoiker
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Mar 19 2011, 5:38pm

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And if Orlando Bloom declined the role, there's no Legolas in the film :) [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Flagg
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Mar 19 2011, 5:41pm

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Well-played sir, well-played... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


painjoiker
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Mar 19 2011, 5:51pm

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I only want Legolas in the film if Orlando playes the role. [In reply to] Can't Post

Otherwise theres no point in writing him into the plot Shocked


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Kangi Ska
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Mar 19 2011, 6:11pm

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As Legolis is not needed for the Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

I would think that the only way PJ would include the character would be if Orly agrees to play the part.

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Mar 19 2011, 6:25pm

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Maybe Rupert Friend is available? [In reply to] Can't Post

     

Separated at birth?

Jk if it ain't Orlando Bloom I would rather they just left Legolas out of it entirely.


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Patty
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Mar 19 2011, 6:36pm

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I was just watching a little of Cherie last night, and it occured to me then [In reply to] Can't Post

that Rupert is very like Orlando. Great minds think alike, Sir D. And I still agree--if Orli doesn't want to do it, then he should be left out altogether. Although already, for me, this would be a disappointment. I'm not a fanGirl (I'm far too old to be THAT!) but I think that he should have a cameo at Mirwood in his dad's home, and at the BoFA. Short, but sweet.

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Mar 19 2011, 6:41pm

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Why replace him when digital copies are so easy? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure they'll just include a CGI Legolas if they can't get Bloom, just like they will with Ian Holm, Christopher Lee, and Elvis! Evil

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painjoiker
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Mar 19 2011, 6:48pm

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Does a persons looks have copyrights? ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Patty
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Mar 19 2011, 6:57pm

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You laugh, but that's an interesting question... [In reply to] Can't Post

if A Christmas Carol had used only Colin Firth's appearance (and the way he walks) without his voice and without his permission, could they have gotten away with it?

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painjoiker
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Mar 19 2011, 7:00pm

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It was a serious question actually, [In reply to] Can't Post

just with a humorous tone Smile


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Patty
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Mar 19 2011, 7:01pm

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Good. Cause I'd like to know the answer, too [In reply to] Can't Post

and I appreciate you bringing it up.

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painjoiker
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Mar 19 2011, 7:16pm

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And what about voices? [In reply to] Can't Post

If it's possible to make a digital version of a persons voice...
Is there any copyright issues with using that in films?


Kangi Ska
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Mar 19 2011, 7:31pm

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I believe that [In reply to] Can't Post

that would be unethical and possibly action able...and I think the Actors Guild would not smile on such a move as well.Shocked

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Mar 19 2011, 7:41pm

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And I believe that is exactly why I suggested it only in jest [In reply to] Can't Post

But how else are they going to work an Elvis cameo into the movie?

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taekotemple
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Mar 19 2011, 7:41pm

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THANK YOU! [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been wanting these two actors to play brothers in a movie for AGES! Their resemblance to each other is remarkable, isn't it? Hell, if they could hire Rupert Friend as another elf part, it would work!


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Mar 19 2011, 7:48pm

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Oh! I got it. [In reply to] Can't Post

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Mar 19 2011, 11:20pm

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Hahahahaha! O.K. now I'll [In reply to] Can't Post

be smiling the rest of the night . . .Cool


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Mar 20 2011, 1:01am

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Not for the last time! [In reply to] Can't Post

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Mar 20 2011, 8:03am

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Sure sure... [In reply to] Can't Post

They could play Elrond´s twin sons... Evil


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Mar 20 2011, 7:47pm

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Or they could use the twins from Born of Hope to play Elrond's sons again. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like that.Evil

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mona2505
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Mar 21 2011, 8:39am

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OB admits he would be horoured to work with PJ again... [In reply to] Can't Post

Came across an interview today. He still says that he's not at the liberty to discuss the hobbit, but that he would love to play Legolas again...

Hobbit discussion starts around 5 min into the interview.

http://news.cntv.cn/program/difangminglan/20110320/100225.shtml


Rinhriveiel
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Mar 21 2011, 3:30pm

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Lego's cameo [In reply to] Can't Post

I know Legolas would justifiably be there, but what I fear is that, if Orlando was included, they would feel the need to give him a part, rather than just panning a camera over him. If they took the time to make an extra scene(s) to include him, that would be aggravating.

 
 

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