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Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit'
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lurtz2010
Rohan

Jan 7 2011, 10:43pm

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Everything is different now [In reply to] Can't Post

...Not really. I never actually thought something like this would happen and just thought TH would be a stand alone movie but this could be cool. This will be the last MiddleEarth/PJ 'thing' ever so I say PJ should do whatever he wants. Wasn't the ROTK cartoon version done like this? I remember the story was told by the hobbits at the dinner table at Rivendell or something.


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jan 7 2011, 10:46pm

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Both Kangi and I take exception to that appraisal [In reply to] Can't Post

and Ataahua too. And every Sean Astin fan. So yeah, you offended just about everyone on the planet. WinkLaugh

Anyway, getting back to this thread, it is hard to say where this approach was born. If it is simply fan driven I do not believe that means GDT didn't sign off on it. What is clear from the release is that Wood (and anyone else who was handed a script (we can assume that includes Viggo)) has known for some time about it and there has been no discernible anti-PJ and co. outcry.

Props to Mr. Cere for being able to keep a secret so well!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jan 7 2011, 10:49pm

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Preach it sista! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah hopefully RED cameras are not slo-mo enabled.

Ah this has been a good thread to start the year with... Laugh


Elentari03
Rivendell

Jan 7 2011, 10:51pm

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Forgive my ignorance, but [In reply to] Can't Post

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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:53pm

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NARF: Not a real fan. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 7 2011, 10:58pm

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They can do a bazillion frames a minute... [In reply to] Can't Post

Makes the bullets in Matrix look fast.

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Elentari03
Rivendell

Jan 7 2011, 10:58pm

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Many thanks.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Pipe Dream
Gondor


Jan 7 2011, 10:59pm

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Most things like that can be found at the TORNspeak dictionary [In reply to] Can't Post


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Bound
Rohan


Jan 7 2011, 11:01pm

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Apologies... [In reply to] Can't Post

Sean did a great job as Sam. I just found his behind the scenes stuff a little whiney and self absorbed.

Sorry if i offended the Sean Astin fan club members :)

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 7 2011, 11:03pm

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It was at dinner at Ozzie & Harriet's house [In reply to] Can't Post

if I remember right, and it ended with little Ricky Nelson singing "The Greatest Adventure".

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The Party Tree
Lorien


Jan 7 2011, 11:06pm

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Sam would have been a logical choice... [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree that it would make more sense for Sam to read from the book, and there's something so wonderfully circular about that idea. But Frodo was the central character of the LotR movies, so perhaps they've decided to use him to tie TH with LotR for that reason, no matter how awkward the time-frame is.

But whatever they do, I don't want it to be one big happy gratuitous hobbit reunion that distracts too much from Bilbo's story.


(This post was edited by The Party Tree on Jan 7 2011, 11:07pm)


Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 11:07pm

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They both have played Dracula, did you know?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Jan 7 2011, 11:13pm

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-Pretty close. [In reply to] Can't Post

It was at dinner at Ozzie & Harriet's house with Ricky Nelson singing.

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Jan 7 2011, 11:14pm

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Did they play the same Dracula? [In reply to] Can't Post

That is to say, was Lee's Dracula film a sequel to Langella's Dracula film, or vice-versa? Or were they completely unrelated adaptations (reboots, if you like)?


Ataahua
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Jan 7 2011, 11:16pm

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and Ataahua too.



I haven't read the book and have no plans to because, although I think he's a darn good actor, if find Sean's point of view of the world tends to trigger my eye-rolling reflex. He wouldn't be my first choice as a dinner companion, let alone author.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea


Jan 7 2011, 11:16pm

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LOL!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Not a Real Ardent Pure Fan. I'm laughing in reality at the moment.

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Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea


Jan 7 2011, 11:20pm

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Me too [In reply to] Can't Post

And I am not too picky as to who says it... so long as it is said. Doesn't seem right to start the movie without that famous line.

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carrioncrow
Lorien

Jan 7 2011, 11:21pm

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torn [In reply to] Can't Post

hmm...having myself previously suggested a sort of 'Princess Bride' sort of narrator (in my scenario with Sean Astin's Sam Gamgee doing the Peter Falk-ish bits)...this may sound hypocritical ...but...this Frodo thing....I'm agin' it!


(This post was edited by carrioncrow on Jan 7 2011, 11:24pm)


mtsquad
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Jan 7 2011, 11:22pm

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The Hobbit or the Hen? [In reply to] Can't Post

*Y-A-W-N* I hear ya, but can't really care.

Oh! Your and you are now colored disappointed!

Book? Movie?

Movie? Book?

They don't match! Hmm ...


Bound
Rohan


Jan 7 2011, 11:23pm

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Yarp... [In reply to] Can't Post

He was a fine actor but you are right eye rolling is about the best way to describe it.

I always remember the story of the cast all going up on stage at the oscars after winning the last award and Sean Astin turns to Stephen Spielberg - Oh Stephen, I hear people talking about doing a sequel of the Gooneys. And Spielberg just stopped him dead by saying - Not now Sean.

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Bran
Lorien

Jan 7 2011, 11:26pm

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Continuity [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with Flagg. 5 films, one long story, continuity. In years to come, long after these discussions are forgotten, I want to reach into my DVD cabinet (or whatever I have at the time) and pull out the 5 film box set, open a bottle of wine and watch the whole thing through. If I run out of wine, I'll get more........

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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Jan 7 2011, 11:27pm

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So it was you huh? When was your last visit to France? [In reply to] Can't Post


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They can do a bazillion frames a minute... Makes the bullets in Matrix look fast.



It's bazillion and one frames actually, and how would you know that? Done a bit of quick burgling have you?
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The Party Tree
Lorien


Jan 7 2011, 11:32pm

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Love him to pieces, but... [In reply to] Can't Post

Half the time I don't know whether to giggle or cringe during his interviews.
But I would argue that a lot of people in Hollywood are just like that, and at least he's honest about how egocentric he can be. And if any of that kind of attitude had anything to do with more screen-time for Sam, etc., that's fine by me. Laugh


Snaga
Lorien


Jan 7 2011, 11:37pm

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back when Return of the King had just finished its run in the theaters. It was an idea of how to bring back a lot of the cast from the Lord of the Rings for a Hobbit movie. It involved a scenario where the story of the Hobbit was being told by Samwise to his children thus bringing back any or all of the Fellowship Hobbits in a giant cameo and then telling the actual story of the Hobbit as a flashback. I have long since decided that this was a weak idea as it would rob the Hobbit of its independence. Well it looks like I need to go back and study the details. It did seem brilliant at the time. Now I am really not so sure.

The biggest reason I can think of for doing it this way is to give the guys we love a chance to put on the feet again without messing up the story of the Hobbit.



Just kidding.Wink But seriously, wouldn't that be too funny if they credit a letter by some anonymous fan in the appendices for why they did it this way?

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Bran
Lorien

Jan 7 2011, 11:38pm

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I think that's right [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree about not necessarily reading/watching in order. It's 'neater' but by no means essential.

I'm also in agreement about it not being a deal breaker. I'm probably biased in that I love the more in-depth aspects of Tolkiens work, so it's always more more more backstory for me. Showing some of the time period between the Hobbit and FOTR is a way for some of that backstory to be added, but I'm only one fan. There are many ways to tell the tale.

I'm new to this board, and find the posting method slightly strange, so apologies for addressing more than one point in a post:

re: reboots. I agree with Flagg. IMO, no need, and I think it would potentially spoil things. It's a huge risk, and I see no reason to take it.

re: Jackson's films. My guess is that the vast majority of Tolkien fans range from mildly happy to delighted with the LOTR films. I've talked to people who are annoyed at one detail or another, but those of us who grew up with Tolkien, and waited eagerly to see the Bakshi version in the 70s will realise what a fantastic job, overall, Jackson's crew did with these films. I do not expect TH to be markedly different.

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