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TORN EXCLUSIVE: Cate Blanchett, Ken Stott, Sylvester McCoy, Mikael Persbrandt join cast of Peter Jackson’s ‘The Hobbit’
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Kangi Ska
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Dec 8 2010, 2:26pm

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And they recast when the actor no longer suits the Role, as with Bilbo.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Dec 8 2010, 2:30pm

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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

While I admit I preferred Guillermo del Toro's choices of Brian Blessed and Ian McShane, making a petition to get rid of Richard Armitage would be disrespectful to both him and Peter Jackson.


Silmaril
Rohan


Dec 8 2010, 2:35pm

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i think they will give us the big names one by one! [In reply to] Can't Post

wonderful to see cate again!!!


dave_lf
Gondor

Dec 8 2010, 2:44pm

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Alright, I'll bite [In reply to] Can't Post

What makes you so sure Drogo is part of the White Council plot, as opposed to simply appearing in the Shire scenes?


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 8 2010, 2:50pm

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He's been listed as a "lead"... [In reply to] Can't Post

And it makes sense...they'll need characters to flesh-out the "B-plot", other than just Gandalf and the White Council. Drogo simply appearing in the Shire would be a "bit player", and none of the other cast they've announced have fallen into that category. It wouldn't make sense to announce the lead roles, major supporting characters, and then a guy who's there for two scenes.

BTW, I have no evidence for this of course, but I'd bet money when they films come out, it will start with Bilbo and Drogo in the Shire, Bilbo will get swept up in the Dwarves' quest, Drogo will be caught up in dealing with the Necromancer, and they'll meet up again at the Battle of the Five Armies. Cool

Or not. But maybe. Or possibly not. Or something?

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 8 2010, 2:54pm

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I would see the Great Goblin more like Jabba the Hutt than an Uruk Hi. [In reply to] Can't Post

Lawrence Makoare would be Blog.

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Dec 8 2010, 2:59pm

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In what order [In reply to] Can't Post

were the casting announcements made last time round? Did they start with the major characters and then work their way down? Or was it more random and unpredictable (like this seems to be)?


dave_lf
Gondor

Dec 8 2010, 3:02pm

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That is a possibility, but I don't think we can take it to the bank just yet [In reply to] Can't Post

My hope is that the whole thing will done as Bilbo telling his story to young Hobbits Princess-Bride style, with frequent cuts back to current events in the Shire to provide bridging material to LotR. If this is the case, Drogo and Primula's parts could be leads even if they are confined to the Shire scenes.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 8 2010, 3:05pm

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LoL! [In reply to] Can't Post

The Great White Wizard Drogo Baggins! I would bet that the writers have cooked up some scenario that will take place at Hobbiton and may partially play at the beginning of movie one & conclude with the auction near the end of movie two.

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dave_lf
Gondor

Dec 8 2010, 3:10pm

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Indeed [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it would be straying dangerously close to fan-fiction to include a Hobbit--any Hobbit--in the other storyline. It would also be redundant. We're already doing the little guy in over his head thing with Bilbo; why diminish that by repeating it with a parallel character?


TheGoblinKing
Rohan

Dec 8 2010, 3:26pm

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What I think Will Happen Is [In reply to] Can't Post

They will stretch the whole Hobbit and make tthem like The Two Towers and ROTK. The focus point will be Gandalf and we will switch back to Bilbo and The Dwarvs while we get the White Council and things Going on which is called wizard matters.
In this way you can connect things with LOTR and still make it Bilbo's Journey.


Tim
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Dec 8 2010, 3:37pm

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So far so good [In reply to] Can't Post

All the right people are coming back so far and I love the unknowns (to me). This means they'll own the roles and I won't be thinking of other characters they've played. What can I say I'm weak-minded. Laugh

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Mixel
The Shire

Dec 8 2010, 3:44pm

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Imagine if [In reply to] Can't Post

Imagine if Stuart Townsend had been cast as Aragorn. We would not know how much better the movies would have been if Viggo had been cast instead. This did not happen and we got a happy ending. Now this is happening again and we might not get a happy ending. Imagine someone saying in a parallel universe "Imagine if Thorin had not been recast. We would not know how much better the movies would have been."


Bound
Rohan


Dec 8 2010, 3:51pm

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FACE ! [In reply to] Can't Post

I wasn't sure about Richard Armitage until i saw this drawing

I mean look at the face... that's pretty spot on..

I know the drawing is just John Howes take on the character but still....


adnan
Rivendell


Dec 8 2010, 4:32pm

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wow! [In reply to] Can't Post

This is by far the best post. Thanks for the comparison, it seals the deal for Richard as far as I'm concerned Cool

Rivendell


Eruonen
Valinor


Dec 8 2010, 5:38pm

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A bearded photo.....obviously PJ saw something that rang true Beorn [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.svd.se/kulturnoje/nyheter/med-egna-ord-mikael-persbrandt_1777285.svd

http://iphone.film.nu/nyheter/148/intervju-mikael-persbrandt-berlins-filmfestival/

Fur clad

http://tonarsmorsa.se/2008/01/norsk-film-kautokeino-opproret/


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Dec 8 2010, 5:42pm)


Runk Snusgrop
Rivendell


Dec 8 2010, 5:42pm

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Re: A bearded photo.....obviously PJ saw something that rang true Beorn [In reply to] Can't Post

Your post is really stretching the board (at least for me) so you might wanna edit your post and add this link instead: http://www.svd.se/...rsbrandt_373895b.jpg

A good pic, and PJ's remark on how well he auditioned sounds about right to me. Persbrandt is a big guy and can be really imposing and intimidating if he wants to be, and I am 90% sure that's what won PJ over. I can totally see Persbrandt bringing that threatening quality that Beorn has when the company first meets him.

He'll be great. Smile



gilgalad80
The Shire

Dec 8 2010, 7:18pm

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Awesome find! Cast looks great btw! [In reply to] Can't Post


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I wasn't sure about Richard Armitage until i saw this drawing

I mean look at the face... that's pretty spot on..


I know the drawing is just John Howes take on the character but still....



Wow! Awesome find.. Yes I'd say there's an incredible resemblance going on there. I'm sure all the casting choices are spot on.. I trust them.



(This post was edited by gilgalad80 on Dec 8 2010, 7:19pm)


Bound
Rohan


Dec 8 2010, 8:34pm

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yeah... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm totally sold visually anways.. i have not seen the guy act.. but he looks the part !


Oiotári
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Dec 8 2010, 9:14pm

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That's an intriguing idea [In reply to] Can't Post

not sure if I like it or not or how likely it is, but still intriguing


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Rohan


Dec 8 2010, 11:23pm

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thorin with a Rohan helm???? [In reply to] Can't Post

Love the image and it's a great match with Richard, but I found it striking that the helm is what ended up being for Rohan. Then again, who says the Rohirrim didn't hire dwarven smiths?

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Dec 9 2010, 12:08am

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Maybe the helm [In reply to] Can't Post

is a trophy of war. Evil

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 9 2010, 12:24am

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The helm is very close to an actual Viking helmet. [In reply to] Can't Post

Notice the lack of the equine details of Rohan's helmets which were also based on the Vikings.

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Kimi
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Dec 9 2010, 12:29am

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Yes, Thorin's the oldest. [In reply to] Can't Post

There's a family tree in Appendix A of LOTR. Thorin was born in 2746, Balin in 2763.


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mykonos
Bree

Dec 9 2010, 6:02am

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Imagine if Stuart Townsend had been cast as Aragorn. We would not know how much better the movies would have been if Viggo had been cast instead. This did not happen and we got a happy ending. Now this is happening again and we might not get a happy ending. Imagine someone saying in a parallel universe "Imagine if Thorin had not been recast. We would not know how much better the movies would have been."


You could say "what if" to every single good and bad casting. Richard Armitage will be good maybe great. I've seen him act and don't think there's grounds for worry, really

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