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Hobbit Stays in New Zealand!!!

RobNZ
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 6:25am

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Hobbit Stays in New Zealand!!! Can't Post

The Hobbit Stays in New Zealand!!!!!!!!

Confirmed by John Key PM of New Zealand live on National TV a moment ago.


(This post was edited by RobNZ on Oct 27 2010, 6:26am)


sharku
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 6:26am

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It is as I predicted - great news. [In reply to] Can't Post

I told you all* ;)

Gandalf the White rides in at the most desperate hour.

*http://newboards.theonering.net/...?post=288094;#288094


(This post was edited by sharku on Oct 27 2010, 6:29am)


Kimi
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Oct 27 2010, 6:26am

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The SQUEEE heard round the world! [In reply to] Can't Post

I can breathe again. :-)


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Eruwestial37
Rohan

Oct 27 2010, 6:27am

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YES YES YES! Oh PJ I'm SO HAPPY FOR YOU!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Owain
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Oct 27 2010, 6:27am

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WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 27 2010, 6:27am

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Can't wait to see PJ's reaction [In reply to] Can't Post

Should be quite a sight.


Elven
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 6:28am

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Awesome!! [In reply to] Can't Post

link from tv3news
http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Hobbit-will-be-filmed-in-NZ/tabid/423/articleID/183394/Default.aspx
quote:
“I’m please to announce an agreement has been reached between the New Zealand Government and Warner Brothers to enable the two Hobbit movies to be directed by Sir Peter Jackson, to be made New Zealand.
“Making the two movies here will not only safe guard work for thousands of New Zealanders but will also allow us to follow the success of the Lord of The Rings trilogy and once again promoting New Zealand on the world stage,” says Mr Key.


(This post was edited by Elven on Oct 27 2010, 6:30am)


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:28am

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News Article link [In reply to] Can't Post

Here it is

SmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:28am

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WOOHOO! [In reply to] Can't Post

I would edit the front page, but I am not yet sure how to, so I'll leave that to one of the admins who I bet is already on it...

I seriously leaped out of my chair and hugged my dad tightly.

OMG YES!

Now I have some emails to send...

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macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 6:29am

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W-A-O-A-H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:29am

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My heartfelt congratulations to Peter Jackson, Weta and Co, the fans, and to New Zealand!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 6:29am

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I'm starting to love these surprise mornings. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


CINE
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 6:29am

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SWEET AS! // [In reply to] Can't Post

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Number Two (Warners): "We want tax incentives… tax incentives… tax incentives..."
Number Six (John Key): "You won't get it."
Number Two (Warners): "By hook or by crook, we will."


Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea

Oct 27 2010, 6:30am

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I cannot wait for the Behind the Scenes documentary on this! [In reply to] Can't Post

...it'll probably take up about 15 seconds. Wink

I don't have words for how happy I am right now - so I'll save it for when I collect my thoughts later! Smile

PJ, Philippa, Fran, WETA, and all of NZ.....I'm so happy for you!!! Cool


RobNZ
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 6:31am

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Things can finally move forward!!!! Congratulations PJ and Team!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I cant withhold my excitement Smile


(This post was edited by RobNZ on Oct 27 2010, 6:32am)


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:32am

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Cheers everyone!!! [In reply to] Can't Post



SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Richie Rich
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 6:32am

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Kiwi Power! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Bound
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 6:32am

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Happy. Happy Joy Joy [In reply to] Can't Post

So happy with the news.. Really hope those unions don't do anything during the production to make anyone regreat this wonderful news


Ruijor
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 6:34am

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The hell with sleeping! [In reply to] Can't Post

I´ll wait a few minutes more to see Key saying on tv! Cool


Nesse
Lorien

Oct 27 2010, 6:34am

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YES! [In reply to] Can't Post

TH is in NZ it has been green lighted, PJ is director, Martin Freeman is Bilbo......is everybody happy! I am and now to the business in hand....the making of The Hobbit:)


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 6:34am

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GREEN CHEESE EVERYONE // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


SirDennisC
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Oct 27 2010, 6:34am

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Just speechless... Thank God! [In reply to] Can't Post

 and thank the people of NZ for pulling out the stops. We owe you again!


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Frodosfriend
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 6:36am

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PJ [In reply to] Can't Post

Wouldn't it be awesome if PJ made a video addressed directly to TORN and talked about how he feels and what's going to happen now...


Ataahua
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Oct 27 2010, 6:36am

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* The Government will introduce to Parliament tomorrow legislation to clarify who is a contractor and who is an employee as it relates to the film industry, not any other industry. (*whew*)

* The Government will widen the qualifying criteria for the Large Budget Screen Production Fund to improve New Zealand's competitivenes for large movies such as The Hobbit. This includes an additional up to US$7.5m per picture subject to the success of the movies. If the movies do well they get up to $7.5m; if they don't, they won't. (No details were given on what 'doing well' means. Key also declined to specify what this additional money would cover, but I got the impression that marketing would be part of it.)

* The Government and Warners Brothers have agreed to work together in a long-term strategic partnership to market New Zealand as a place to make movies. In addition, the Government will work with Peter Jackson to develop appropriately themed material to promote New Zealand to tourists (with this appearing on DVDs and other material); and will work with Time Warner to promote New Zealand across its studio and media outlets. John Key says this will maximise the leverage for New Zealand to promote itself throughout the world as a tourist destination as well as its goods and services.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

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Richie Rich
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 6:37am

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That would be lovely [In reply to] Can't Post

Blush



Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:37am

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Some tidbits of the deal. [In reply to] Can't Post

 The Government will introduce legislation tomorrow to clarify the distinction between independent contractors and employees as it relates to the film industry only.
"This will guarantee the movies are made in New Zealand," Mr Key said. Tax rebates will also be changed for Warner Bros, which will mean up to an extra US$7.5m per movie for Warner Bros, subject to the success of the movies.

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Elven
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 6:38am

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Here! Here! 3 cheers for NZ! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:38am

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Wow! Definitely whew! Great summary!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 27 2010, 6:39am

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Wow [In reply to] Can't Post

That's quite a deal, right there.


Silverlode
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Oct 27 2010, 6:40am

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Now bring on the movie about "that business with the dragon"! CoolCoolCoolCoolCool

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Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 6:41am

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Earl
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Oct 27 2010, 6:41am

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YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! :D [In reply to] Can't Post

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Cool



Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:42am

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That sounds really amazing [In reply to] Can't Post

Good that the employee/contractor thing is limited to the film industry only.

The tax breaks seem to be something that are due to what the film brings to the country- if the film is successful, better for country/tourism, I would guess?

WB could really be a great partner in helping the film industry of NZ grow.


Wow, I have goosebumps from this news! I wish more people were up on my friend's list so I can jump around with more people :D

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Pioneer
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 6:42am

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PJ. [In reply to] Can't Post

Peter Jackson is a terminator from the future sent back through time to ice-up our nipples.


Chevy Chase for Saruman


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 6:42am

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*Does a happy dance* [In reply to] Can't Post

They finally saw the light SmileSmileSmile

Ha, now I feel so much better, particularly for the people in NZ!



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Oct 27 2010, 6:44am

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Bound
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 6:44am

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No one tosses a Dwalf? [In reply to] Can't Post

Smile


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Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:45am

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The Beacons are lit!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

This music gives me chills every time!!!

The Beacons are lit!!!

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 6:45am

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Sounds better than anyone was hoping for [In reply to] Can't Post

Cheers to whoever kicked the hornet's nest in the first place!Laugh


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 27 2010, 6:45am

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Big sigh of relief [In reply to] Can't Post

I always thought WB was one of the more respectable film studios. This reinforces that belief. Glad to see a deal was worked out that benefits both parties.


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Ataahua
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Oct 27 2010, 6:47am

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Hell I want to come to *your* party!!

:D

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:49am

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SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 27 2010, 6:51am

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Happy fans move at light-speed, MrC. :D / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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BlueMan
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Oct 27 2010, 6:51am

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Raptos a diis homines dici ...


cameragod
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 6:52am

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Yay!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Bag ENZ Home of the Hobbit

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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 6:53am

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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Can't even think what to say at the moment. I'll leave it at THANK YOU to all who made this happen!!!

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:53am

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Cheers Cameragod!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Eledhwen
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Oct 27 2010, 6:54am

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What lovely news to wake up to! [In reply to] Can't Post

Fantastic. I am extremely happy about this. Cool

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Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:55am

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LaughLaughLaugh

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


guitarzankansasfan
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 6:55am

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I missed the announcement because I was too busy visiting TheOneRing.net [In reply to] Can't Post

So I log on to theonering.net and see that there's no major news yet, and start browsing the forums. I've been browsing through some older threads on the forum for about an hour and as I read through one of them I started to see posts that seemed to indicate a meeting was going on and an announcement was imminent. Then I get to the posts about TH staying in NZ and I'm like wait, that news wasn't on the front page... it happened while I was reading the earlier threads! I can't believe a huge announcement happens on this website right under my nose! Oh and by the way I'm very happy that it's staying in NZ.


Garfeimao
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 6:56am

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so awesome [In reply to] Can't Post

I kept refreshing the news on the NZHerald site and the NZTV site until I saw the news, woohoo.


As a Travel Agent, I already knew that New Zealand was a key destination to promote. Heck, I'm a Kiwi Specialist through Tourism New Zealand. So the third point mentioned is rather awesome, the increased commitment to promote the country as a film and tourist destination.

I guess I need to go write up my press release for the next Cruise to Middle-earth now.

Peace, Love and Rock & Roll,


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Odieman
The Shire


Oct 27 2010, 6:57am

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YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

This made my day completely, I literally jumped up of my chair and jumped around the room, at reading this :D

THANKS, PJ, Fran, Phillipa, and the NZ film industry, John Key and Kiwis of NZ. You fought and won and I will be forever grateful :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

And thanks WB for making the right decision.


Owain
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Oct 27 2010, 6:57am

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SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:58am

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Cheers Odieman!!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 6:59am

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plus [In reply to] Can't Post

we can get to sleep at a reasonable time again! ;)

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 6:59am

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Party Down!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Frodosfriend
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Oct 27 2010, 6:59am

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I watch disc 1 of FOTR EE last night [In reply to] Can't Post

and I was feeling rather sick about it all and now I can watch the 2nd disc tonight with a happy face Smile
life is good.


Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 7:02am

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We have been here all night. [In reply to] Can't Post

Sleep smiling tomorrow.

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New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Ataahua
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Oct 27 2010, 7:02am

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I know it's come at a cost [In reply to] Can't Post

with the increase to the Large Budget Screen Production Fund, but I didn't expect Key to get anything like those marketing initiatives.

Never underestimate a Prime Minister who's taken on the tourism portfolio for his own. :D

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Zherkezhi
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 7:02am

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Fantastic News [In reply to] Can't Post

...the only place these movies could have been shot!!!
Great news!!!

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Iolite
The Shire

Oct 27 2010, 7:02am

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Soooooooo relieved! [In reply to] Can't Post

I couldn't have imagined a better outcome! For once I think John Key and Co. have done good!

They have offered an extra US$7.5million per film if they are successful (e.g. US$15 million total provided the films do well enough) and US$10 million extra towards marketing, which apparently will involve plenty of marketing that promotes NZ and an ongoing relationship with Warner Bros that will foster and promote the NZ film industry.

The government is introducing legislation to further clarify the difference between contractors and employees.

Through this insanely difficult process the New Zealand film industry may end up better and stronger than ever.


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 7:03am

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Woohoooo!!! Owain does a massive cannon ball into the punch bowl!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

SmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

Where are the chandeliers???

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Nienna
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 7:05am

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I'd forgotten that [In reply to] Can't Post

He certainly took on the right portfolio!


Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 7:06am

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Some of us were hoping but counting on nothing. Life is good!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Solos
The Shire

Oct 27 2010, 7:06am

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WOOT WOOT!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

This is awesome!!!! Great to hear for all of us that have been checking our computers for news every 5 minutes!!!! One less thing to worry about! Just think, in a little over 3 months production begins!!!


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 7:06am

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Or doing what we are supposed to do [In reply to] Can't Post

when we are at work! Angelic



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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 7:08am

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There's that 3D ride thing of PJ's under Warners in LA [In reply to] Can't Post

it all just kind of makes sense... should definately help all involved for years to come.


Doriath
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Oct 27 2010, 7:09am

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Silmaril
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Oct 27 2010, 7:10am

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wonderful news!


Owain
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Oct 27 2010, 7:11am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:11am

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Hobbit trilogy??? [In reply to] Can't Post

Just heard on radio that there might be 3 Hobbit movies.

I hope not. It should be just two.


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Oct 27 2010, 7:11am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:12am

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An apt description, well said Laugh


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Oct 27 2010, 7:12am

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Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 7:12am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:12am

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This is about the happiest moment for LOTR movie fandom since [In reply to] Can't Post

since Stephen Spielberg said "it's a clean sweep". IMHO this even beats the greenlight news for happy moments!

Ok off to bed now.


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Oct 27 2010, 7:13am

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 Laugh wait, what?


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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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Good :) [In reply to] Can't Post

The first part is reasonable, I think - that part really needs clarification to avoid more of these union stunts. To limit that to the film industry is a sensible decision.

And I hope the third part makes up for the second part. That way NZ gains something, even if they are giving in to the financial demands of Warner to a certain extend in the second part. That way all parties can sell it as a success for themselves Smile

Thanks for posting these details so fast!



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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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they'd be hung from the nearest tree quick-smart

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Owain
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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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Whu???// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Ruijor
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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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Save some for later. [In reply to] Can't Post

We will need it for iminent casting celebrations!


Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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Wonderful news!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I felt really nervous before John Key's press conference. I had a funny feeling he was going to say the movie was going off shore. So when he said the opposite I had a little dance around the room Sly. Now, finally the movie can progress at full speed. It's going to be a fun and exciting couple of years.


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Oct 27 2010, 7:14am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:15am

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thank god [In reply to] Can't Post

yeeeeeeeeey

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Oct 27 2010, 7:15am

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No-no-no Guillermo is writing and directing the third one [In reply to] Can't Post

Hobbits at the Mountains of Madness. Honest.

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Oct 27 2010, 7:16am

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Are you sure it isn't Pan's Labyrinth 2: There and Back Again? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Oct 27 2010, 7:16am

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Yes, well played... [In reply to] Can't Post

They done good. Oh, and thank you for sharing your perspective through all of this.


Garfeimao
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Oct 27 2010, 7:17am

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Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 7:17am

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Nienna
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 7:17am

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I too was fearful [In reply to] Can't Post

 - If anyone could do it, I thought John Key could, but he's usually such an optimist and he was looking a bit serious - I was preparing myself for the worst!


bookgirl13
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Oct 27 2010, 7:18am

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But the marketing of NZ will help sell the films as well [In reply to] Can't Post

It's reciprocal. Look at the merchandise and copies of the film, books etc that will sell through visitors to NZ, which will benefit WB as well ascthe country. I spent hundreds when in NZ three years ago, and have continued buying every version of the film as it's released as well.

btw thrilled it's remaining in NZ and it's a fantastic deal for both parties.


Garfeimao
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 7:19am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:19am

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Thank you for the correction and reminding us what the theme was... completely forgot!


Doriath
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Oct 27 2010, 7:20am

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I'd be fine with another movie if [In reply to] Can't Post

it was pure Tolkien and absolutely nothing he didn't write. There is after all, Silmarillion, Lost tales and Children of Hurin but I'm guessing they would either split the Hobbit in two and then have the bridge movie or one Hobbit and the bridge movie split up.

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Brodes
The Shire

Oct 27 2010, 7:22am

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Tourism Promotion [In reply to] Can't Post

A wonderful opportunity to really promote Middle-earth Aotearoa. Not that we didn't know it already! Fantastic news indeed.


Doriath
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Oct 27 2010, 7:23am

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I'd watch that movie! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Zherkezhi
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 7:23am

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It will be a great making-of on the DVDs/BluRays... :D [In reply to] Can't Post

...all these set-backs.. and still.. the Hobbit will be finally done! There's enough material for a thriller movie...

Hobbit Poster WIP

(This post was edited by Zherkezhi on Oct 27 2010, 7:23am)


Kelvarhin
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Oct 27 2010, 7:23am

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we's just gonna party LaughHeartHeartHeart

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Oct 27 2010, 7:26am

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You mean you've only just noticed! ;-D // [In reply to] Can't Post

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Oct 27 2010, 7:26am

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also [In reply to] Can't Post

there will be alot of behind the scenes from back when GDT was directing. So many changes... so much footage. Those EEs will be intense


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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 7:26am

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More fun [In reply to] Can't Post

but not exactly what I am getting paid for Cool



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Garfeimao
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 7:27am

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Battle of Five Armies, revised [In reply to] Can't Post

Haven't we had the Battle of the Five Armies? Oz union, NZ actors, Producers, Technicians, and finally "The eagles are coming!" in flew the Warners. That, folks, was the Battle of the Five Armies!

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Doriath
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Oct 27 2010, 7:27am

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Pioneer
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Oct 27 2010, 7:28am

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Another Term for Prime Minister. [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, John Key has probably just won next year's election.


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Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 7:28am

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Really? [In reply to] Can't Post

Then what would you call the last days? Tongue



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Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 7:29am

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You better feed them [In reply to] Can't Post

and they'll need tea and beer too.

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Melilot
The Shire

Oct 27 2010, 7:29am

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YES. [In reply to] Can't Post

Very, very happy here. And incredibly happy for PJ et al... I hated seeing the man looking as he looked during those infernal interviews.

They did it again!!


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Oct 27 2010, 7:30am

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Doriath
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Oct 27 2010, 7:33am

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Those always sounded good to me [In reply to] Can't Post

in fact, just about everything that is consumed in those books sounds great. The food, the drink and the smoke

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Oct 27 2010, 7:33am

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Cool Cool




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Oct 27 2010, 7:35am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:36am

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Dang [In reply to] Can't Post

BBC News isn't on for another hour and a half

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Iolite
The Shire

Oct 27 2010, 7:36am

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Thanks and sorry I haven't posted much over the past couple of days... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I've just felt so stressed and worried that all I could manage was reading, no writing!

And SirDennis, despite not always agreeing with some of the things you have said I have always felt that your musings and questions have been a valuable contribution to all of the talks and debates! Smile


Frodosfriend
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 7:40am

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I'd say very


RobNZ
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 7:44am

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I would love to see PJ, FW and PB and their teams faces right now.


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Oct 27 2010, 7:44am

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Oh Happy Day!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

To quote Sam Gamgee - "Oh great glory and splendour! And all my wishes have come true!" And then he (and all the host on the Field of Cormallen) wept.


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Oct 27 2010, 7:45am

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YEAH!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

So happy.

I checked earlier this morning, but nothing. And then I get into work, check Facebook quickly, and the first 10+ entries are all on The Hobbit staying in NZ. I'm so happy. Haven't done a thing this morning then checking here, Facebook, reading along articles starting here and there and every where.

Well done to all the folks in NZ. Great decision from WB!
And good luck to everybody who is now going to be extremely busy with all the work (if you need a hand *hint, hint*)!

Off doing another geeky Hobbit-dance.
SmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile



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Oct 27 2010, 7:45am

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Doriath
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Oct 27 2010, 7:46am

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There is an inn a merry old inn [In reply to] Can't Post

beneath an old gray hill........

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RaoulJ
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Oct 27 2010, 7:46am

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... [In reply to] Can't Post

I am away for an hour just to travel from one computer to another... And BAM! the Hobbit stays in NZ. This is great, and I'm joining the party. I've got some Dragon-fruit.. maybe we can make punch?


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Oct 27 2010, 7:47am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:49am

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Weta sends its thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.wetanz.com/it-s-official-it-s-our-precious/

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Oct 27 2010, 7:50am

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Gee thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

we both wanted the same thing, we just had different ideas about how to get it Angelic

If you end up with a gig on TH, hopefully we can look forward to more of your insights here at TORn...

All the best to you Iolite!

Dennis


syameese
Bree

Oct 27 2010, 7:50am

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I am so relieved that a deal has been done - and one that isn't too outrageous in terms of just handing WBs a lump of cash. Sure $25m US isn't chickenfeed, but in the context of what was at stake - a most reasonable outcome imoSmile


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Oct 27 2010, 7:51am

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Oct 27 2010, 7:52am

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We can all drink to that Cool




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Oct 27 2010, 7:54am

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YAY!!!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been refreshing like a lunatic all afternoon.
I'm so glad this is resolved Heart


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Oct 27 2010, 7:57am

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*Pets Kitty* [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, I noticed at least one crazy thing around here, long agoLaugh


RaoulJ
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Oct 27 2010, 7:58am

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Is that a hobbitfoot? It looks like it.. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


bookgirl13
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 8:00am

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The Premiere will be in NZ as well [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't know if thus has been mentioned, but part of Keys announcement included the fact that it will be premiered in NZ. They'll do a fantastic job, just as they did for RotK!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/...-shoot-to-stay-in-NZ


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Oct 27 2010, 8:01am

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I'm just glad [In reply to] Can't Post

we are all feeling up to enjoying this journey... quest... thing. Smile


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Oct 27 2010, 8:01am

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I really wish [In reply to] Can't Post

you'd not call her that. It keeps confusing me, as that's *my* name! Tongue



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Oct 27 2010, 8:03am

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Kelvarhin
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Oct 27 2010, 8:03am

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So I enjoy life... so shoot me LaughLaughLaughAngelicEvil

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Oct 27 2010, 8:06am

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Oi! [In reply to] Can't Post

Just remember, family... friendly... board Wink

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Oct 27 2010, 8:06am

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Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 8:07am

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I'm just wondering if it will be the first film or second film? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm already saving up for my studying abroad trip in early 2012, but I may need to save some more sooner if the premiere is for the first film and not the second... :D

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Oct 27 2010, 8:08am

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Oct 27 2010, 8:10am

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Oh, another great message [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks. I hadn't taken the time to read it thoroughly (shame on me).
Thanks for that great news.
Now I really have to start saving, I want to be there.



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Oct 27 2010, 8:10am

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I like cats... well some cats... what are you talking about? Angelic


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Oct 27 2010, 8:10am

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the boards haven't crashed again Laugh


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Radagast_the_Brown
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 8:10am

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HAPPY DAYS! Angelic

All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:11am

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Now I am beginning to wonder [In reply to] Can't Post

which of you two has his mind in the gutter now? Cool



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bookgirl13
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 8:11am

Post #145 of 364 (3721 views)
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If I was Keys [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd have pushed for both! It makes a lit more sense. The publicity New Line gained from the way NZ celebrated tbe RotK, more than made up for the 'inconvenience' of being premiered in NZ.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:11am

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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:12am

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all the US-sibs are up again ...Angelic



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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:12am

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Biteth thou thy tongue! [In reply to] Can't Post

Besides that won't happen at least until the US Eastern Seaboard comes on line. By then, we will be in bed!


RobNZ
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 8:13am

Post #149 of 364 (3584 views)
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Second [In reply to] Can't Post

I would think it would be the second one,
wasnt ROTK the one with the big Wellington premiere. I should know, I was in the crowd, but I have completely forgotten when it was Smile
I still have some photos I took of the procession from back then.


(This post was edited by RobNZ on Oct 27 2010, 8:14am)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:13am

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our thinking isn't so different after all Evil


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:15am

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Just checking lil bro... just checking WinkTongue


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dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 27 2010, 8:15am

Post #152 of 364 (3722 views)
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*BIG, BIG, BIG GRIN!!!*..... [In reply to] Can't Post

Late to the party but I don't care - this is the best, best news to wake up to and I can't stop smiling (pinch me, someone!)

Cheers to New Zealand, to John Key, Peter Jackson, Weta - everyone....

Let's hope that from now on all the news we hear about The Hobbit is good news! Smile

*does happy dance*


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:16am

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that'd be you Big Sis.. you knew what we were talking about LaughLaughLaughEvilAngelic


*ok Mom, I'll start behaving myself again now, but geez haven't had this much fun in agesSly*


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(This post was edited by Kelvarhin on Oct 27 2010, 8:17am)


Greenwood Hobbit
Grey Havens


Oct 27 2010, 8:16am

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Just heard on BBC radio [In reply to] Can't Post

and no doubt will catch up on the detail later. There really could be no other sensible solution; New Zealand has become the official home of Middle Earth. Looking forward to things getting moving now, and following the progress! Congratulations to all who fought for this result.


mulubinba
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 8:17am

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Heard the news on the way home from work. I am so happy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SmileSmileSmileSmile


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:18am

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Just imagine how far apart we all are, but how close we are at the same time... celebrating such wonderful news. T-1000's and all! Good times.


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 8:18am

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Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:19am

Post #158 of 364 (3717 views)
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Ha! [In reply to] Can't Post

Don't deflect the blame on me, little sis! The proof is right here who started it! Tongue

But today it's probably hopeless to keep you on your best behaviour Wink



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Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:19am

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But... ifth.. I.. doesth.. that.. I.. cantsth... twalk... pwoperly [In reply to] Can't Post

Tongue

Yeah, can't wait to see gramma's reaction Cool


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Frodosfriend
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 8:19am

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I was there too [In reply to] Can't Post

It was perfect weather. hopefully the weather will be good for this one. Why am I thinking about the weather now?


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:21am

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Amen to that, though [In reply to] Can't Post

with apologies to Elven mind you, I never did understand what a cheese sandwich was a euphamism for, ha!


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:21am

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*copies, pastes* [In reply to] Can't Post

*and adds to footer* Cool

Thanks cameragod Smile


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macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:23am

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Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:25am

Post #164 of 364 (3921 views)
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Sisters, indeed. Haven't really done much in the last four hours at work, either BlushAngelic But the Hobbit is so much more important, right? Evil



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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 8:25am

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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:26am

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As you know, they kept saying it didn't exist Tongue



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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 27 2010, 8:26am

Post #167 of 364 (3771 views)
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Checking TORn [In reply to] Can't Post

right, that is what I'm supposed to do, right??

I just announced to everybody here that today is a partyday because the Hobbit stays in NZ (questions marks all around the colleagues) and that I wouldn't do a thing then just checking every news site and celebrating all day.

Happy, happy, joy, joy!!!



SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:26am

Post #168 of 364 (3749 views)
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There were some tornadoes up her way today... this news will be much better!

I'm sure she is fine btw. Just trying to make the world seem a little smaller...


Blackbird
Registered User

Oct 27 2010, 8:27am

Post #169 of 364 (3830 views)
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Finally after years in development hell, the project seems to be free from obstacles...
Go Peter and crew!


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:27am

Post #170 of 364 (3741 views)
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Baby Sis!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

*grabs Rosie-w-t-r and starts doing happy dance again*
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*btw Big Sis and Baby Sis, we AIMing this weekend?? Cool*


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One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play

(This post was edited by Kelvarhin on Oct 27 2010, 8:28am)


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:28am

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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:28am

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Me, too! [In reply to] Can't Post

Would be a dream come true, wouldn't it?



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Oct 27 2010, 8:30am

Post #173 of 364 (3486 views)
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And whirls around [In reply to] Can't Post

with Big Sis, ribbons swirling every where!!!

What an amazing news, and what a great day (looks outside at the rain)!!!!!



SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:30am

Post #174 of 364 (3660 views)
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And there in lay the problem [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought it was a stand in for the production. I used it to mean that several times in fact. No wonder few people knew what the heck I was on about lol.

Thank God that is behind us... you have no idea sisterEvil


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:30am

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Hope she is ok. Was so focused on this that I didn't bother to check any other news today Blush


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One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:31am

Post #176 of 364 (3963 views)
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Now that's the way to go! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hm ... maybe I should try that approach with my boss, too? Angelic

Can see you dancing happily around in between reading Wink



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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:31am

Post #177 of 364 (3959 views)
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B O Y C O T T // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:32am

Post #178 of 364 (3897 views)
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AIM? Definitely! [In reply to] Can't Post

Staying at home, so no one to distract me.



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Oct 27 2010, 8:32am

Post #179 of 364 (3985 views)
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That will be amazing [In reply to] Can't Post

mind blowing and probably generating a world wide party mode!

Can't wait for it.

Wow, so much good news, green light, casting and now NZ. Party time!!!



macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:32am

Post #180 of 364 (3867 views)
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Kangi! [In reply to] Can't Post

Get some sleep now, you deserve it! Cool



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Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:32am

Post #181 of 364 (3872 views)
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*laughs* [In reply to] Can't Post

Isn't raining, the sky is blue and the sun is shining everywhere today Cool

It's the best of news HeartHeartHeart


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One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:33am

Post #182 of 364 (3703 views)
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Rain? What rain? [In reply to] Can't Post

Even the sky is beaming over here!



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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:34am

Post #183 of 364 (3859 views)
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What? You're calling a boycott? Are you crazy? [In reply to] Can't Post

Wink If I ever hear that word again, it will be too soon.


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:36am

Post #184 of 364 (3799 views)
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Don't worry [In reply to] Can't Post

that sort of misunderstanding happens - and sometimes it takes a while until people realise that they are talking about two different things. And who cares now, there's no cheese sandwich any longer, and the Hobbit stays in NZ, that's all that counts! **happy dance**



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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:36am

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Wish I could but still have nearly 3 hours of my vigil left. [In reply to] Can't Post

I will catch a few winks after 7AM. The week of overnights is always a killer. Tonight has been a lot better than most.

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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(This post was edited by Kangi Ska on Oct 27 2010, 8:37am)


Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Oct 27 2010, 8:37am

Post #186 of 364 (3843 views)
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Grey [In reply to] Can't Post

with still the drops of the last shower sticking to the window.
But that won't dampen my spirit, I'm just ecstatic!



dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 27 2010, 8:37am

Post #187 of 364 (3701 views)
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Amen to that!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm watching the rain run down the windows, grinning like an idiot...

Isn't it good to have something to feel REALLY happy about? Just happy, and no complications....

*happy dance - with umbrella Wink *


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Oct 27 2010, 8:37am

Post #188 of 364 (3887 views)
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Thats a good start to the day! [In reply to] Can't Post

Great News Smile


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Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:37am

Post #189 of 364 (3745 views)
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LOL [In reply to] Can't Post

Except for two cheeky younger sisters LaughAngelicEvil

Already told hubby the good news, so I'm fairly sure he knows what I'll be up to for most of the weekend *though I've just remembered we're going out on Saturday from 5pm, got the carer coming over to look after the boys Cool*


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Bag ENZ Home of the Hobbit *with thanks to cameragod ;D*

One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:39am

Post #190 of 364 (3925 views)
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*grins* [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually it's pretty grey here today too, and we're supposed to have a storm tomorrow, but, nothing's raining on the parade today Cool


One by one they faded, and fell into shadow...


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Bag ENZ Home of the Hobbit *with thanks to cameragod ;D*

One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


Rosie-with-the-ribbons
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 27 2010, 8:39am

Post #191 of 364 (3972 views)
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Well, all the colleagues [In reply to] Can't Post

is at the moment 3 others Blush.

It is autumn break here so there is hardly anybody here. But I did tell all of them! And got an extra cup of tea just to celebrate.



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Oct 27 2010, 8:41am

Post #192 of 364 (3673 views)
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It's a date [In reply to] Can't Post

no special plans then just relaxing. So AIM it is!



Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:42am

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Sorry...sometimes you have to spell things out for people. [In reply to] Can't Post

It is really gone now and it won't come back. I promise.

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:44am

Post #194 of 364 (3926 views)
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You know [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd love to see that little green light of yours doing a happy dance Laugh


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Bag ENZ Home of the Hobbit *with thanks to cameragod ;D*

One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


Huan71
Lorien

Oct 27 2010, 8:47am

Post #195 of 364 (3762 views)
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This is fantastic news!! [In reply to] Can't Post

A big congratulations to New Zealand ! Smile

And if i'm reading things correctly, Warner Bros., the NZ government and the actors all get something out of this deal !
I guess thats what happens when people sit down and talk...


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:48am

Post #196 of 364 (3924 views)
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Deal! [In reply to] Can't Post

That will be a huge party! *runs off to make some food*



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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 8:48am

Post #197 of 364 (3757 views)
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Hey Owain, I found more! [In reply to] Can't Post



The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:49am

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Would you like a beer with that? [In reply to] Can't Post



Or you could always keep it till later Wink


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Bag ENZ Home of the Hobbit *with thanks to cameragod ;D*

One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:49am

Post #199 of 364 (3868 views)
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That's enough [In reply to] Can't Post

for a little party Smile

Waiting for my colleague to come back, at the moment no one is here to celebrate with.



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Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:51am

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Funny no one mentioned [In reply to] Can't Post

my misuse of cheese sandwich before this... good times!


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:51am

Post #201 of 364 (5254 views)
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What about my green light cheese below?! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 8:52am

Post #202 of 364 (5236 views)
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what iss cheese sandwich preciousss? [In reply to] Can't Post

 

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:53am

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I guess cheese means something different to everyone, ha! [In reply to] Can't Post

 And with that, on this very auspicious occasion, I have finally landed in Valinor.

I'm glad we were able to share this experience. I bid you all a fond good night.


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Oct 27 2010, 8:55am)


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 8:53am

Post #204 of 364 (4970 views)
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Awesome! I'm game.// [In reply to] Can't Post

LaughLaughLaugh

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:53am

Post #205 of 364 (5183 views)
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Sorry, they're not as cute as the little light bulb// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Bag ENZ Home of the Hobbit *with thanks to cameragod ;D*

One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play


Huan71
Lorien

Oct 27 2010, 8:53am

Post #206 of 364 (5024 views)
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You had doubts?? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey there Kangi..
"Some of us were hoping but counting on nothing."
....But you always seemed so confident it would stay!!?? Tongue


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 8:54am

Post #207 of 364 (5112 views)
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See above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

Photobucket


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 8:54am

Post #208 of 364 (5283 views)
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I'll have some green light cheese! Woot!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:54am

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The new name for boycott [In reply to] Can't Post

see this post here!



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Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 8:56am

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And welcome to these hallowed shores! Right in time for the party!



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Vangalad
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 8:57am

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Congratulations to all who contributed to have these two movies made at their birth place.Wink


cameragod
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 8:58am

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Thanks, it came to me as I got sunburned sitting on a hill waiting for the Warners plane to fly in wishing I was at the rally.
No plane but we did order Hell pizza. The guy who delivered it climbed a cliff face just to get it to us... very impressive.
Will upload to youtube when I get a moment...
Typical my one day off this week and it all get resolved... not that I mind the outcome... sorry just lots of happy random rambling going on here.
As a fan I'm geeked to the max about it.
As a film and TV worker it gives me real hope for our industry.
As a Kiwi it make me proud we found a way through.
YAY!!!

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:00am

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The size of the Warner contingent was the one thing that really gave me hope. I could go on. But more than anything I felt that all of our positive thoughts would help.
If Frodo had despaired...

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:01am

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EEEEYOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! :D [In reply to] Can't Post


THAT"S MAGNIFICENT!!!! GLORIOUS!!!! GOB-SMAKING!!!!!!


THANKYOU WB.........PETER !!!!! RICHARD!!!L!! THE TECH AND ACTOR S AND EVERYOE WHO jPUT IN A TOE OR A PRAYER OR A VOICE TO THE CAUSE! WWWWWWWWWAHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO111111111111111111111111


*BURSTSSINTO TEARS* omg............. they're home....

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:02am

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Where is Gramma? She is going to explode.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:02am

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yess.... thank you NZ......bless ou...../// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:04am

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It meant roles in The Hobbit, zing! Shocked


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 9:05am

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WaaaaaaHoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:06am

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Thank you Kitty 2... [In reply to] Can't Post

Wink now really, it is off to bed. The sun will be up in "little less than half an hour."


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:07am

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So happy for you guys! The absolute best outcome CoolCoolCoolCool

*big hugs*


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Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 27 2010, 9:07am

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*offers pocket handkerchief* [In reply to] Can't Post

*and bottle of Old Wineyards*

You choose which one to take. Laugh

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 9:09am

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There and Back Again!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:11am

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Your reaction doubles my joy. [In reply to] Can't Post

Now the really fun part starts.

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At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:12am

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take the booze! [In reply to] Can't Post

it'll make ya brave enough to swipe the handkerchief ;)

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 9:13am

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I am so ready for the fun part!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

And what a victory won. What meaning there will be when those films are up on the big screen. Wow! What a day/night

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:15am

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It sounds like Warner Bros [In reply to] Can't Post

have not only endorsed and proven their faith in NZ, but they've gone a step further with this:

"The Government and Warners Brothers have agreed to work together in a long-term strategic partnership to market New Zealand as a place to make movies."

I think WB is proving to be a company with a heart and arent' afraid to be more than a place that just does the business... they're completely boggling me in all of this. I'm so impressed.

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maut
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:16am

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No matter what what I've said before, I'm happy! NZ IS the Middle-Earth!!!Hobit in NZ! YEAH!!!!

One Ring to rule them all,
one Ring to find them,
one Ring to bring them all,
and in darkness bind them!
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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:16am

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

And when I get the DVD I'm gonna hug it and squeeze it and never lets it go...oh wait

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:16am

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ohhhh.. dear Sir... perfect timing :) Congratulations! /// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:18am

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*CLINK* [In reply to] Can't Post

oh Ataahua... I can't stop crying for job. omg.... they did it! I feel like I ran a marathon... *warm hug*

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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:19am

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Today in Middle Earth [In reply to] Can't Post

They saved Middle Earth!

Goodnight/morning/afternoon all and thanks for the fun!

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 27 2010, 9:20am

Post #232 of 364 (3712 views)
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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:20am

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*massive hug!* [In reply to] Can't Post

isn't this incredible!? How amI supposed to work today!? *snigger* Now I know how Sam felt at Cormallen...

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:22am

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And that's no BS!!!! :D // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:24am

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Now that got me all misty eyed. Today life is good!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 9:26am

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she's off making a fool of herself [In reply to] Can't Post

runnning down the street, waving her arms and screaming somthing about THEY"RE HOME! THEY"RE HOME!!!

ALL THE WAY!!!!

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:31am

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Aren't we all, and they are indeed at home. [In reply to] Can't Post

Today life is good!

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
New Zealand is as close to Middle-earth as you can get.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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bearagorn
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 9:40am

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Yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

A very happy family of bears here. Good luck to everyone involved in the films.Smile



The boys are back in town!!


EowynLuthien
Registered User

Oct 27 2010, 9:47am

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Celebration [In reply to] Can't Post

I cried because I am so happy! I watched the video from the rally in Wellington which was so touching. I love the KIWIS and will visit them next week...


RaoulJ
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:49am

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I was thinking... [In reply to] Can't Post

We were rooting for NZ as the country to house the Hobbit.. so they can get the 500 million... But the whole world-economy has probably lost about 500 million with people not working and refreshing TORn.. Cool and drinking punch, cider and beer


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 9:52am

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Tomorrow will be a day of extraordinary effort. To day we celebrate.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
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Twit
Lorien

Oct 27 2010, 9:54am

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yay!!! Congratulations to you all. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


ranger123
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:57am

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Great news [In reply to] Can't Post

Up to the last minute I was really worried but in the end we got the best result we could have hoped for.

Smile

Well done to all sides who worked to get the situation back to where it should be.

Now let's hear Ian McKellen confirmed as Gandalf and I'll be even more pleased!


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maut
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:57am

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In Reply To
We were rooting for NZ as the country to house the Hobbit.. so they can get the 500 million... But the whole world-economy has probably lost about 500 million with people not working and refreshing TORn.. Cool and drinking punch, cider and beer

At least *I* shall drink all the day!!!CoolWhat about cakes and ale for anyone?Wink

Far over the misty mountains cold

To dungeons deep and caverns old

We must away ere break of day

To seek the pale enchanted gold.
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RaoulJ
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 9:59am

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I'll have some. 2 cakes and 3 pints// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


maut
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 10:01am

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No problem! [In reply to] Can't Post

You'll get some!Wink

Far over the misty mountains cold

To dungeons deep and caverns old

We must away ere break of day

To seek the pale enchanted gold.
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...and the sound of the kettle on his hearth was ever after more musical than it had been even in the quiet days before the Unexpected Party

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Welcome back to Middle-Earth!!!

(This post was edited by maut on Oct 27 2010, 10:10am)


Pipe Dream
Gondor


Oct 27 2010, 10:10am

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I was hoping I would wake up to find this! [In reply to] Can't Post

Dear God! Let that be the last hurdle for this production! Enough is enough!

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Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 27 2010, 10:12am

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*snicker* [In reply to] Can't Post

You could be right, you know, though it might not be full 500 millions - yet Cool But don't forget the beverage industry! They must have made a nice penny with all we have been consuming Wink



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Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 10:18am

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I want to party more, but I have to sleep! But I don't want to! Dilemna! [In reply to] Can't Post

Heh, I have to be up four hours from now, and from there, to school... but I want to continue to party! Grah!

Well, congrats again, NZ! I'll drop by this thread when I wake up to see where it's gone...

*grabs some celebratory cake before heading out*

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Nerwen
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 10:19am

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'O great glory and splendour! And all my wishes have come true! [In reply to] Can't Post

Just to think that a month ago we didn't have green light, we didn't know whether PJ was going to direct or Freeman be able to fit it in his schedule or where it would be filmed. And now we have all the right pieces together and it looks perfect! :) (Well I could grumble on about the 3D and how I fear WB's marketing will look cheap but hey, this is a day for celebration and if I've learned anything during these years as a fan, it's to trust Peter.)

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look at last on meadows green
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maut
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 10:22am

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Yes, "Trust PJ"- [In reply to] Can't Post

is a kinda motto for fansSmile

Far over the misty mountains cold

To dungeons deep and caverns old

We must away ere break of day

To seek the pale enchanted gold.
__________________________________
...and the sound of the kettle on his hearth was ever after more musical than it had been even in the quiet days before the Unexpected Party

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Welcome back to Middle-Earth!!!


mae govannen
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 10:22am

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Oh my!... *Wiping tears of joy and laughing at the same time* // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Samuel Walters
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 10:31am

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CONGRATULATIONS! [In reply to] Can't Post

Fantastic news! Not just for us as movie fans, but for the thousands of Kiwi film workers whose livelihoods are a bit more certain today!

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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Oct 27 2010, 10:32am

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maut
Rivendell


Oct 27 2010, 10:35am

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Yes it does! [In reply to] Can't Post

And thats make me happy!
Ah, what a nice day!

Far over the misty mountains cold

To dungeons deep and caverns old

We must away ere break of day

To seek the pale enchanted gold.
__________________________________
...and the sound of the kettle on his hearth was ever after more musical than it had been even in the quiet days before the Unexpected Party

________________________________
Welcome back to Middle-Earth!!!


Argyris_Panagis
Registered User


Oct 27 2010, 10:39am

Post #256 of 364 (3754 views)
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finally!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hello form Greece....that's great news...I hope the cast and the production would be as great as LOTR....i think PJ is working on that....


Pete
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 11:13am

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I'm so excited! I just made this video to commemorate!!! Wooo!! [In reply to] Can't Post

This scene has always given me chills, and so did this news... so it's a good match!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZZJOxhQYZM

"A Hobbits Tale"


Morpheus89x
Registered User

Oct 27 2010, 11:20am

Post #258 of 364 (3646 views)
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Hobbit Stays in New Zealnd!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

YEAH-HAAA!!!!!!!!!!

Finally a little bit luck, Mr. Frodo - or should I say Mr. Bilbo ;-)

This is the best news in weeks!

So, let the spectacles begin!!


ShawnMR
The Shire

Oct 27 2010, 11:30am

Post #259 of 364 (3556 views)
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Happy, happy, joy, joy!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Strap on your dancin' shoes, boys and girls...we're going back to Middle Earth!!!


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 11:52am

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I'm just glad this ugliness is over. [In reply to] Can't Post

Hopefully another contrived obstacle won't pop up and delay The Hobbit yet again.


sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 27 2010, 12:13pm

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Great News ... I'm actually not that surprised [In reply to] Can't Post

I would have been shocked the other way around...and I still think their plan is to utilize the Harry Potter locations in the UK for a few scenes, when scheduling warrants it for Freeman and others.


sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 27 2010, 12:25pm

Post #262 of 364 (3581 views)
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The floodgates have opened wide [In reply to] Can't Post

Everything seems to be just...good news now. Remember way back when ( a few hours ago) everything was gloom and doom? Wink

Congrats on being the first to post Martin Freeman idea on TORn! The first time I heard him and a few others mentioned for Bilbo was on IMDB, so at that time (2008) I checked them out and right away I knew that Freeman was Bilbo ... Now I can breathe knowing he will be playing the part. I had posts removed because I had too many pics of Freeman showing how much he looked like a younger Holm. When I checked out his acting the real light bulb moment came, as I recall seeing him in Love Actually, especially one of the last scenes where he jumps off the steps and walks to his left...it was Bilbo without hairy feet! I could not understand why most people in polls were favoring McAvoy...maybe because he was more well known in the movie industry?..but he looked and acted nothing resembling Bilbo.

Anyway this is a good day to celebrate...! Cool


sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 27 2010, 12:38pm

Post #263 of 364 (3650 views)
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About as drunk as Bilbo on his 111th birthday! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 27 2010, 12:49pm

Post #264 of 364 (3517 views)
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Good article - Smart move with the sweeteners [In reply to] Can't Post

"Key also announced a sweetener aimed at making it more attractive for other production companies, along with Warners, to film in New Zealand."

This is smart to use this opportunity to completely turn things around and make it more attractive to film in NZ than before, while they have everyone (studios) watching.

Plus the way it sounds with the tourism thing, they may just have the largest theme park in the world...the size on NZ.Cool


nobofthepony
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 12:50pm

Post #265 of 364 (3556 views)
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EUCATASTROPHE!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

This is much better than I dared to hope! PJ directing, made in New Zealand, WETA doing their thing...no "what ifs" or regrets. It's going to be a GREAT 2 years with spy reports, etc. Can't wait...I DO think PJ should take two weeks and just SLEEP - he's got to be completely drained by now.


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Oct 27 2010, 12:54pm

Post #266 of 364 (3453 views)
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thank GOD indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


nobofthepony
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 12:54pm

Post #267 of 364 (3431 views)
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documentary on the making of The Hobbit? [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope someone's filming behind the scenes...I think they could release a documentary on the making of the hobbit that would be just as exciting as the film itself! And with a happy ending!! Just think about the looooong road to get to this point...


Lord Maegmoth
The Shire


Oct 27 2010, 1:00pm

Post #268 of 364 (3484 views)
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Not unexpected. [In reply to] Can't Post

Never expected anything less (as previously mentioned).

The past few weeks have been deplorable, the crass negativity and nauseating political posturing being beyond comprehension. Rather unbecoming, really.
Now, with this reeking unpleasantness relegated to history (hopefully), Sir PJ can be permitted to do what he does best. Something to look forward to at last.

More casting announcements, please!


Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Oct 27 2010, 1:04pm

Post #269 of 364 (3395 views)
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At what cost? [In reply to] Can't Post

The MEAA and NZAE committed a tactical blunder of unprecedented proportions by precipitating a move for legislation that will further strip workers of their rights. The clarification of employees vs. independent contractors will now ensure that even if someone is, in practice, an employee, a mere label can fix them as independent contractors, thereby stripping them of their rights.

Warners has strong-armed the New Zealand government in one of the most unprecedented displays of corporate power over government that I have seen in a long time.

And we are pleased as punch because our little movie gets to be made in New Zealand. This deal has serious long-term consequences for people across the country - primarily consequences that benefit only the studios - and we are expected to celebrate in the streets?

The amazing one-sidedness being displayed by the media on this issue is vomit-inducing.


Xoanon
PTB


Oct 27 2010, 1:05pm

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Simply to Say [In reply to] Can't Post

YAY!!!





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the_argonath
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 1:08pm

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*huge sigh of relief!* [In reply to] Can't Post

And now all is right with the world!!
*breaks out the ale*
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~*Haudh-en-Ndengin the Elves named it, the Hill of Slain, and Haugh-en-Nirnaeth, the Hill of tears... the earth beneath which the swords of the Eldar and the Edain crumbled into rust*~

And so it begins...


Elven
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Oct 27 2010, 1:09pm

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and look! The Caterers have come back - and now there's seed cake and ale for everyone - not a cheese sandwich in site - they've been taken off the menu seeing that they were more dressing than substance with no nutritional value what so ever Wink

Ive got a party hat for you Kangi and a plate and glass.

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Zizix
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Oct 27 2010, 1:09pm

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Not that I saw it happen any other way... but still WOOHOO! Congratulations to Peter, his team, and New Zealand.
Now finally they can really start up right? Right?


Elven
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Oct 27 2010, 1:11pm

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Flagg
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Oct 27 2010, 1:12pm

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The MEAA and NZAE committed a tactical blunder of unprecedented proportions by precipitating a move for legislation that will further strip workers of their rights. The clarification of employees vs. independent contractors will now ensure that even if someone is, in practice, an employee, a mere label can fix them as independent contractors, thereby stripping them of their rights.

Warners has strong-armed the New Zealand government in one of the most unprecedented displays of corporate power over government that I have seen in a long time.

And we are pleased as punch because our little movie gets to be made in New Zealand. This deal has serious long-term consequences for people across the country - primarily consequences that benefit only the studios - and we are expected to celebrate in the streets?

The amazing one-sidedness being displayed by the media on this issue is vomit-inducing.



Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 27 2010, 1:14pm

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Warners strong-armed the NZ government into changing its laws in a way that makes it easier for Warners to underpay, under-treat, and under-give-a-flying-#$%^ for Kiwis working on its films! You really believe that this agreement to "strategically partner" with the NZ government is some kind of major concession which shows they have heart?

I am pleased that these films will be made in NZ, and I am happy that all the Kiwis who feared for their jobs will keep them. However, the cost of doing so was, IMO, unacceptable. I think the NZ governemnt should have driven a much harder bargain. They capitulated in a way that is nearly unforgivable.


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Evernight
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Oct 27 2010, 1:16pm

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Then when Sir Peter Jackson heard afar the announcement of Prime Minister John Key, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: "Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári (ar Periannath), utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men (and Halflings), the day has come!" And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: "Auta i lóme! The night is passing!"

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...

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Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Oct 27 2010, 1:18pm

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Fascinating response. Thanks! :-)


Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 27 2010, 1:19pm

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This is nothing to romanticize. It was an ugly deal to keep the Hobbit in NZ. I am happy about the film being in NZ, but not happy about what the government gave up in order to do so. An insult to democracy if I ever saw one.


Ethel Duath
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Oct 27 2010, 1:25pm

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Oct 27 2010, 1:25pm

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I could almost cry, that's how happy I am!!!! the Middle-earth is saved!!!


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Oct 27 2010, 1:25pm

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deej
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Oct 27 2010, 1:25pm

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Looks like Fiesta has come early to the TORn boards. Cool




Flagg
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Oct 27 2010, 1:27pm

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...the laws wouldn't have been changed if the unions hadn't interfered with their disgraceful boycott. I hope Simon Whipp and Helen Kelly are proud of themselves. Look what they've achieved! And this will do wonders for their public relations, too! Smile


Ethel Duath
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Oct 27 2010, 1:27pm

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the Cheese Sandwich is over.SmileWink


dormouse
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Oct 27 2010, 1:29pm

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This is nothing to romanticize. It was an ugly deal to keep the Hobbit in NZ. I am happy about the film being in NZ, but not happy about what the government gave up in order to do so. An insult to democracy if I ever saw one.


How is it that the New Zealanders on this board and elsewhere don't seem to think so? They seem pretty happy, not just for this film and the people who will work on it but for the wider implications for their country. I reckon they know their own business better than anyone else.

This is good news and an insult to nobody.


Ethel Duath
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Oct 27 2010, 1:33pm

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Yes, Perfect! *Joins in leaping around on the picnic table, and . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

 falls off the end in a heap.* ShockedLaughLaugh


Hamfast
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Oct 27 2010, 1:33pm

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.....and I am ready to party!!!!!! A fantastic piece of news to wake up to. Congrats to PJ,WETA,and the Kiwi's ! And thanks to TORn for all the hard work ! Cheers!


Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 1:42pm

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No need for pessimism today, G-M! [In reply to] Can't Post

If the NZ people are not happy with their government's decision, they'll decide with their vote.

Now turn that frown upside-down and save your Debbie Downer thoughts for tomorrow, today is a happy day ;P

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Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 1:43pm

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Californian here got no sleepI [In reply to] Can't Post

I was simply too excited about the news. :D

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Ethel Duath
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Oct 27 2010, 1:45pm

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Eruthurin
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Oct 27 2010, 1:45pm

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Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 1:48pm

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If the voting people- most in the working class- are unhappy, they will speak with their vote when it comes to re-election time.

Now please, enough political crusading and celebrate, or at least save the 'glass is half-empty' thoughts for tomorrow ;P New Zealand can take care of itself.

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Samuel Walters
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Oct 27 2010, 1:49pm

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The MEAA and NZAE committed a tactical blunder of unprecedented proportions by precipitating a move for legislation that will further strip workers of their rights. The clarification of employees vs. independent contractors will now ensure that even if someone is, in practice, an employee, a mere label can fix them as independent contractors, thereby stripping them of their rights.

Warners has strong-armed the New Zealand government in one of the most unprecedented displays of corporate power over government that I have seen in a long time.

And we are pleased as punch because our little movie gets to be made in New Zealand. This deal has serious long-term consequences for people across the country - primarily consequences that benefit only the studios - and we are expected to celebrate in the streets?

The amazing one-sidedness being displayed by the media on this issue is vomit-inducing.



I'm sorry indeed that workers' rights may be limited by this action. But considering those workers -- or at least their representatives -- were willing to put the livelihoods of thousands at risk, through a thoroughly unnecessary and damaging labor action, I can't say that I'm entirely sympathetic. There's a right way and a wrong way to go about achieving one's goals. The wrong way has severe consequences.

But this deal is, in fact, good news, considering the long-term benefits that producing The Hobbit in New Zealand will have for the country. Without the current sacrifices, the long-term viability of the NZ film industry would have been in severe jeopardy. Now the industry will be safeguarded for the future, at a cost to those who put the industry in harm's way to begin with -- that's the risk of empowering individuals to speak for a group. So yes, people are celebrating. Having The Hobbit in NZ is, obviously, a matter of national pride. Today is not the day to rain on the parade.

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balinman
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Oct 27 2010, 1:52pm

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great day to be a hobbitCool


ranger123
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Oct 27 2010, 2:05pm

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Warners strong-armed the NZ government into changing its laws in a way that makes it easier for Warners to underpay, under-treat, and under-give-a-flying-#$%^ for Kiwis working on its films!

What?

NZ actors will be paid way above SAG minimums on The Hobbt. The average weekly wage I heard for Kiwi actors that signed contracts is $5,000.

And for the first time in decades Warners are offering NZ actors residuals.

The change in the law is about a clarification of the difference between a contracted worker and an employee to reduce the risk of future potential lawsuits.

Don't forget that all of this only came about as a result of the MEAA blacklisting The Hobbit.





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Oct 27 2010, 2:05pm

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I like you.

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Altaira
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Oct 27 2010, 2:34pm

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I suspected something was up when I saw not one, but two threads set ON FIRE overnight! LaughLaugh

HUGE congratulations to PJ, Richard Taylor, Mr. Key, and all the fine Kiwis who fought for this and showed their support in whatever way they could.

*lump in throat* A proud day for Kiwi's, indeed!!


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Hamfast
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Oct 27 2010, 2:43pm

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I was nodding off at the keyboard and I knew fine folks like yourself would stay up and keep watch. By the way, well said regarding negative nellie, or debbie downer....I have faith that PJ, Warner Bros. and the Kiwi government want their workers treated fairly (and paid fairly). Today is a day of celebration! I plan on speeding through the day so I can get home, log on to TORn and see more good news........like a statement from Sir Peter perhaps? Cheers!


shadowdog
Rohan

Oct 27 2010, 2:43pm

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here in the west and I wake up to some great news!!!! CoolEvil


rings7
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 2:44pm

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Happy dances all over!!!!


Rivendweller
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Oct 27 2010, 2:45pm

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What happy happy news !! Congratulations to all who worked so hard to keep The Hobbit in Middle Earth /New Zealand where it belongs !! I am so very happy for all the Kiwis who devoted their time and hard work to keeping these films in their home country. This makes me very happy for Sir Peter and Fran and Philipia as well ! They deserve nothing but praise and good wishes now for a successful film production.


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Snaga
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Oct 27 2010, 2:46pm

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Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 27 2010, 2:57pm

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As I said, I am happy that this will be filmed in NZ.

However, it is not a "happy day" for everyone. Particularly those Kiwis who feel their democracy has been subverted by a corporate entity that issued bold threats to extract a change in NZ law.

I am not being a downer to be a downer. I am being a downer because for all our delight at our little film getting the greenlight, the implications of this decision, for NZ workers, is huge.

NZAE and MEAA may have committed one of the worst tactical blunders in union organizing history. The stupidity of it astounds me.

However, ultimately, it was Warners who strongarmed the NZ government, and I am least happy with them.


Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Oct 27 2010, 2:59pm

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One of the most idiotic moves in union history, IMO. I have never seen a tactic backfire so badly. Helen and Simon should be fired and sent on the new manned Mars mission the U.S. is working on.


Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Oct 27 2010, 3:03pm

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You really believe that New Zealanders on this booard capture the entire NZ people? [In reply to] Can't Post

And why, exactly, do you assume I am NOT a Kiwi?

I know plenty of Kiwis who are either not Tolkien/PJ fanatics, and who frequent other Tolkien-related messageboards, that are appalled by this decision.

Most are happy to have the film stay in country, and wanted it to stay in country, but are aghast at the degree to which the NZ government bent over backwards and further reduced the rights of workers.

In terms of basic human rights and employment protection, the NZ government just took a big step backward, and I'll be darned if I'm going to do a jig and purchase party favors in response.


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Arbutus
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Oct 27 2010, 3:12pm

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Whoo-hoo! Relief and celebration was had by all (most)!!!!

Since when is any issue entirely black and white, good or evil? I believe a positive labor result can occur if the parties are open to discussion and compromise. However to me the worst possible efforts result when representatives are so dogmatic and entrenched that they fail to see an opportunity.


Analeewyn
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Oct 27 2010, 3:16pm

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Just wish I wasn't working right now so I could celebrate more on the boards Unsure.

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Ainu Laire
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Oct 27 2010, 3:18pm

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Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 3:23pm

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*yawn, stretch* So, what's happening now? [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, great news!
*joins the party a bit late*Cool

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BilboBagshot187
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Oct 27 2010, 3:24pm

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SmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

I am so happy that this decision has been made It is truly amazing news. Without the passion, dedication and work ethic of the NZ filmmakers LOTR wouldnt be what it is and it is essential for the hobbit to be the best it can possibly be with that same team behind it.
Really happy for PJ and everybody who will be working on the film.


DiveTwin
Rohan


Oct 27 2010, 3:30pm

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Just happy that it happened. I was confident it would. But you never know until it's official.

I feel like Frodo awakening in Minas Tirith to find a smiling Gandalf there and realizing everything is going to be OK after struggling for so long ....

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JRandomRohirrim
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Oct 27 2010, 3:41pm

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In the increasingly cut-throat game of where movies should be made, I'm REALLY GLAD the Hobbit flicks will stay in New Zealand. Many thanks to those who made this dream a reality!


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Gildor
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Oct 27 2010, 3:54pm

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Another confirmation that the movie is moving forward. Interesting that keeping it in NZ has garnered a larger and overwhelmingly positive response while the green light was so so. Perhaps keeping it in NZ was more important than actually making it? Anyway, I digress.

Super happy that we're closer to making these things. Happy that they can stay in NZ. Concerned about some of the dealings related to worker's rights, I'm interested to see how it plays out.

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greendragon
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Oct 27 2010, 3:55pm

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'This new Gandalf's Mother is more grumpy than the old one....' ; ) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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shadowdog
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Oct 27 2010, 3:55pm

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joy over the greenlight got overwhelmed and lost in the fear of what the blacklist would do.


greendragon
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Oct 27 2010, 4:03pm

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Great news. This is as it should be. [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems to me that NZ will benefit from this, even with the cost to them - the tourism and marketing they get from the movies will be worth more than they have to pay, methinks. I'd be interested to know the thoughts of those in the industry about the 'independent contractor vs employee' thing - but as one who works in the arts, I know that being an independent contractor often benefits me and allows me greater freedoms.

Meanwhile - what I care about right now is that we will get to see THE SHIRE again!! Cannot WAIT to see those Matamata sets again! Sly Hurrah hurrah hurrah. So pleased for PJ, for all at Weta, for NZ and for US! Laugh Can't stop smiling...

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Oden
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Oct 27 2010, 4:03pm

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Rivendweller
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Oct 27 2010, 4:09pm

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Flagg
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Oct 27 2010, 4:15pm

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You claim [In reply to] Can't Post

you know plenty of Kiwis on other Tolkien message boards that are appalled by this decision? Links please. You are the one solitary person who seems not to be thrilled by this decision. It will be interesting to see if there's anyone out there who actually agrees with you.


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Oct 27 2010, 4:27pm

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Lots of people everywhere side with unions in cases like this. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm certainly not one of them, but I've met enough to know they're out there.

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Melilot
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Oct 27 2010, 4:30pm

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Considering [In reply to] Can't Post

that we could have been at this point how many years ago - ?! Smile

Ah, well. This is magnificent. Champagne tonight methinks.


Patty
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Oct 27 2010, 4:32pm

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Extenuating circumstances... [In reply to] Can't Post

I may side with a union or I may not. This is a case where I wouldn't have sided with them, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that I want these movies made. The already mentioned extenuating circumstances all through this drama would have put me against this union action. Each event should be decided upon due to its individual merit.

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dernwyn
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Oct 27 2010, 4:38pm

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Another one? [In reply to] Can't Post

Good grief, I'm losing track of all these "new arrivals"! Laugh

*pops cork off of bubbly miruvor* No worries, this stuff will never go flat. Congrats! Smile


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Patty
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Oct 27 2010, 4:42pm

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My goal is to be Immortal for my birthday (June 8th).

But I'm thinking these movies will make status jumpers out of most of the board!

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R4W13Y
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Oct 27 2010, 4:51pm

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I too would like to see some links - as well as some that prove that Warner's are in fact going to underpay the workers of NZ. Oddly enough, from the dozens of articles I have read, it seems the workers on The Hobbit will be paid way above the minimum requirement, with many many amazing benefits. Strange that through all of my reading, I have failed to find all the different articles you've apparently been reading claiming the exact opposite. I would love to see the proof you have!

Also, it is within the film industry of NZ that will have a clarification of what makes one an "employee" or "contractor." Seems to me this does not undermine any worker of New Zealand's rights or is a "step back" in progress for the labor laws of NZ. Seems to me that it is rather a protection of rights for both types of workers within the film industry. Maybe you can give me some more insight, specific links and articles that will prove to me otherwise.

Until then, I see you like many on these boards do: a nay-saying dissenter. I don't see any value or proof behind your arguments - simply negative statements with nothing to back them up. I will put more thought into what you say when you can show me all of the links, articles, and reasons that prove Warner's strongholded the NZ democracy to reduce labor laws so they can get away with treating their workers like slaves. I have seen absolutely not one shred of evidence for this belief.


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R4W13Y
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 4:55pm

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Absolutely amazing news, indeed!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Unfortunately I had tons of research and shadowing with my advisor this morning starting around 6AM so I could not take part in the vigil or celebration early this morning! But I checked around 7AM on my phone and squealed with absolute joy!Smile

This is incredible news, for us, for Peter, for the crew, for everyone in NZ, and for Warner Bros.!Heart

I am very keen to celebrate tonight with a bottle of champagne, just like the rest of you folksSly

I am so looking forward to the coming months and years ahead, and I am excited to continually support Peter and all the crew through all of this!!

Cheers!


LoremIpsum
Lorien


Oct 27 2010, 5:10pm

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hopefully this was the last roadblock for this movie

GO PJ AND NZ Heart

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dormouse
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Oct 27 2010, 5:19pm

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You really believe that New Zealanders on this booard capture the entire NZ people?


No, of course I don't - but I've been reading round all the news websites I can find and the view from the New Zealand media is overwhelmingly positive. I also know some people in New Zealand who have been very anxious and are celebrating today - and since John Key was so determined to persuaded Warners to stay - within the perameters of what was reasonable and what his country could afford - I have to assume that he thought the majority of his country would be behind him. If they're not, I'm sure they'll let him know.


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And why, exactly, do you assume I am NOT a Kiwi?


I guessed that you weren't from New Zealand because in a post you made in the last few days you said you knew nothing whatever about New Zealand employment law before all this blew up. Also your phraseology in previous posts about what you think New Zealand should do reads like an outsider's view. And I noticed that you spell labour without the 'u', which is something I associate - perhaps wrongly - with American spelling. If I'm wrong on any of these counts please accept my apologies.


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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 5:43pm

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I know quite a bit about the many subtle differences between American English and British English – I knew it would come in handy someday! – and you're right, Gandalf'sMother does seem to veer more towards American spelling. Here she uses the spelling 'color' rather than 'colour'. She uses the word 'favor' rather than 'favour' here, here, here and here, and she uses 'center' rather than 'centre' here. I could probably go on and keep finding more Americanisms, but I think I've made my point. Kiwis don't write in American English, and Gandalf'sMother has done so without exception. Quite suspicious, if you ask me. Smile


sharku
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 6:06pm

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I know quite a bit about the many subtle differences between American English and British English – I knew it would come in handy someday! – and you're right, Gandalf'sMother does seem to veer more towards American spelling. Here she uses the spelling 'color' rather than 'colour'. She uses the word 'favor' rather than 'favour' here, here, here and here, and she uses 'center' rather than 'centre' here. I could probably go on and keep finding more Americanisms, but I think I've made my point. Kiwis don't write in American English, and Gandalf'sMother has done so without exception. Quite suspicious, if you ask me. Smile


Perhaps GM is curling into the foetal position in response?


SirDennisC
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Oct 27 2010, 6:08pm

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in a sense, they deserve some thanks in this too Angelic


bluepilgrim
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Oct 27 2010, 6:17pm

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Woohoo! [In reply to] Can't Post

now back to work :(

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Tim
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Oct 27 2010, 6:21pm

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You havent even seen the legislation yet [In reply to] Can't Post

and already you pass judgment. Interesting.

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 6:33pm

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the fetal position, if my suspicions are correct. Wink


grammaboodawg
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Oct 27 2010, 6:46pm

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Well... I admit [In reply to] Can't Post

that I haven't had the time to go through all of the information and read all of the posts... and I am admittedly ignorant when it comes to the legalities and implications.

I stand corrected and am sincerely concerned with any fallout from this that harms the industry and the workers..... but I'm still happy at Warner Bros decision to keep the films in NZ.

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SirDennisC
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Oct 27 2010, 6:48pm

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She? [In reply to] Can't Post

How do we know even that?

Anyway, the principle behind GM's comments is sound, that it is an affront to the people of NZ (or any sovereign nation) that an offshore corporation should be able to elicit changes to law in their country. In fact, that was a key complaint levelled at the offshore unions in all of this, that they had no right to meddle in NZ labour law or to demand changes to the industry practice.

So on that basis, and in this very narrow sense, I agree with him/her, American or otherwise.

Things that make this more palatable for me, and I suspect, many NZers are: the change to law appears to be limited to The Hobbit production; the apparent lingering confusion about rights of employees vs the rights of contractors and the very definition of either seems to be cleared up; it appears that a long term commitment towards NZ is being made by Warners (and assuming it is not exploitative by nature, this is a fairly progressive pledge on their part); and finally, everyone seems to have come through this, in NZ anyway, with their dignity intact.

The sum result of the negotiations is laudable, imho, but that does not mean it does not warrant finer scrutiny. Whether this is the time or place for such scrutiny, on anyone's part, is a separate issue. There seems to be a lot of goodwill behind the decisions taken. On that basis, and for the sake of The Hobbit finally moving forward, I am more than happy to take a wait and see attitude.

As AL said, frowns upside down, all around!


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sharku
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 6:49pm

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In this world [In reply to] Can't Post

Where capital will move to the cheaper labour, and where labour flows to meet the capital, such adjustments will occur in order to achieve the best outcomes. This is one of the cruxes of the anti-globalisation argument - preventing this freedom of exchange or at least trying to ensure it occurs to the benefit, rather than detriment, of people (as opposed to the capital).

This is a phenomenon which is occuring throughout the first world, as capital seeks cheaper labour - hence the rise of China at the expense of US workers, as just one example. The smart money for the next (and last) cheap global labour pool will be Africa - so start investing now. Further along, it has been suggested that the present first world will cyclicly become the cheap labour force for what is now the second world i.e. cheaper UK workers will be manufacturing luxury cars for wealthy Chinese.

In this instance, the capital had the choice to take its ball and leave the playground unless NZ chose to play by its rules. Thus NZ has done. To berate NZ for capitulating or bending over is to minimise the fact that Warner Brothers had other options and would have exercised them, resulting in the NZ film industry remaining principled, but unemployed.

But it is not entirely one way. In industries where the capital is fixed, such as health, the labour moves to meet the money i.e. NZ doctors leave for Australia and better pay and conditions there. The doctors are taking the ball and leaving the playground.

Unless one is able to change the fundamentals of the global system, this sort of paradigm clash and its outcomes are seemingly inevitable.


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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2010, 6:50pm

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... bottom line... are getting these films made and NZ back to finishing the job they started and helping their reputation and economy. If they're happy, I'm happy... and for that, I give thanks :) Been on my knees a couple of times today.

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dormouse
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Oct 27 2010, 6:53pm

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Today is a good news day! Smile


Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 6:56pm

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I heard that MEAA ate the cheese sandwich. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 7:00pm

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I am in! And thanks. [In reply to] Can't Post

I have had to be careful around cheese in recent years anyway. EvilSlyWink

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 7:08pm

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The party must be almost over. [In reply to] Can't Post

People are starting to be serious. I guess I just have to go back into my anti 3D mode and face the hangover.

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dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 27 2010, 7:10pm

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It's been a long, long ride (and who wants to think about 3D today! Wink )


Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 7:12pm

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Cast out the fools and let the struggle begin afresh. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 7:14pm

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I conceed. But I need a Bloody Mary to find my inspiration.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Richie Rich
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Oct 27 2010, 7:18pm

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 27 2010, 7:19pm

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Indeed! the dawn is upon us.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 7:21pm

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Now being a follower of del Toro... [In reply to] Can't Post

This is tomato juice?

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 7:23pm

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Don' mourn. Organize! "Joe Hill" of the Industrial Workers of the World.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 7:24pm

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Tomatoes are weird and disgusting. [In reply to] Can't Post

Except when in ketchup form. That is their only purpose.


Arbutus
The Shire


Oct 27 2010, 7:31pm

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TASTY!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Nothing better than a grilled cheese sandwich and hot tomato soup! I have a very happy tummy! I wish you equal happiness.


pandoraziki
Rivendell

Oct 27 2010, 7:54pm

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Couldn't log on until now, but still had to join in the celebrations (better late then never Wink) Ahhh, now I can uncross all my fingers again. Big congratulations to Sir PJ and all the wonderful folk in NZ Heart


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2010, 8:07pm

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This is the continuation of a great adventure. Some really rough patches but now maybe we can enjoy some of the fun stuff!!!

SAVE MIDDLE EARTH! FILM THE HOBBIT IN NEW ZEALAND!

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 27 2010, 8:36pm

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GM is an honourable person [In reply to] Can't Post

I know GM quite well, and while I disagree with him about this issue, I also know him to be an honourable person deserving of respect and consideration.

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Glaurung63
Lorien

Oct 27 2010, 9:49pm

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Booya! [In reply to] Can't Post

Fantastic news!!!!


Emmabelle
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Oct 27 2010, 10:41pm

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Yeah! Very happy. Well done to everyone espically those in NZ who really fought for this Wink


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2010, 11:24pm

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_V_
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Oct 27 2010, 11:25pm

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Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta! [In reply to] Can't Post

“Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien.Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!"

"Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come.In this place I will abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world."


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Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
Bree


Oct 27 2010, 11:58pm

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a YES! YES! YEEEEESSSSSS! worthy of an Herbal Essences commercialWink

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Ataahua
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Oct 28 2010, 12:15am

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Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
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Oct 28 2010, 1:13am

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weaver
Half-elven

Oct 28 2010, 1:24am

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So happy that things are resolved and we can now get on with the show!

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ShyElf
Lorien


Oct 28 2010, 1:34pm

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Also late - but still wanted to join in! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was at a clients all day yesterday - but Mr. ShyElf phone me shortly after 9AM - "Sorry to bug you at a clients, but I know you'd want to know this now -- I just heard it on the radio - the Hobbit stays in New Zealand!!!" (what a great guy!)

YESSSSSSSS!!!!! Phew! Exhale....Relax. Let the games REALLY begin now!!!!

Cheers!


 
 

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