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Earl
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Oct 23 2010, 2:07pm
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Sylvester McCoy confirms his role as Radagast at Armageddon Panel in Auckland...
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Over at WETA's Shadow and Flame forums, there's a poster who was present at Armageddon who says...
"Sylvester McCoy confirmed at his Armageddon Panel today that he has been offered the part of Radagast the Brown."
For those who don't know what Armageddon is, read more here.
I suppose it's just a matter of waiting for an official announcement now 
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ranger123
Rivendell
Oct 23 2010, 2:21pm
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I think he will make an excellent Radagast.
I guess Warners are holding back on confirming more of the cast to get maximum press coverage by staggering the press releases.
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Flagg
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Oct 23 2010, 2:22pm
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...even if we kind of knew about it already, it's nice to have confirmation. I wonder why he was omitted from the press release? And can we now say that the White Council/Necromancer scenes are definitely in the script?
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dormouse
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Oct 23 2010, 2:53pm
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Perhaps the paperwork isn't finalised yet
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.. or wasn't when they made the announcement. In any cse, I don't think they would have wanted to announce the whole cast at once.
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Patty
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Oct 23 2010, 3:00pm
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This is fantastic. I was one who missed Radagast in the LotR...
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(the moth just didn't cut it as a substitute), and I'm happy to see more characters of the books come to life.
I don't know this guy, but he looks the part, for sure.
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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea
Oct 23 2010, 3:29pm
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So, assuming that the casting breakdown was accurate...
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Can we assume that the main cast of the "Quest for the Lonely Mountain" storyline will be:
Bilbo
Thorin
Gandalf
Fili
Kili
Gloin
Balin/Dwalin/Bombur
And the cast of the "Necromancer/White Council" storyline will be:
Gandalf
Radagast
Drogo
Primula
Itrail
Young Elf Lord
With Elrond, Galadrial, and hopefully Saruman and Celeborn on the White Council?
BTW, has anyone involved with the production ever mentioned bringing Marton Csokas back? Haven't heard anything...
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Flagg
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Oct 23 2010, 3:32pm
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What have they got to do with the White Council?
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Captain Salt
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Oct 23 2010, 3:35pm
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Well, they wouldn't be ON the White Council, obviously...
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But they were announced as "leads", so I'm assuming they're introduced along with Bilbo in the Shire, then get caught up in the storyline concerning the investigation of the Necromancer and subsequent assembling of the White Council?
Also sheer speculation, of course. 
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Flagg
Tol Eressea
Oct 23 2010, 3:42pm
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Perhaps their death by drowning could turn out to be the result of some secret plot by the Necromancer? That's what they get for meddling in the affairs of subtle wizards...
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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea
Oct 23 2010, 4:09pm
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Or it just looked like drowning, and the Necromancer could have been the first one to create water-boarding! He's certainly evil enough.
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Elladan
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Oct 23 2010, 4:20pm
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Young elf lords who might be involved could be Elrohir and Elladan? They have ample reason. I am not conviced by this Itaril thing though, it seems like they would have to spend a lot of time developing a character with little to no relation to the main story line.
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Flagg
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Oct 23 2010, 4:24pm
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I would like to see them in the films, but it would be tricky to explain their absence from LotR, as well as the fact that they're never even mentioned there.
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Patty
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Oct 23 2010, 4:35pm
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I would love to see them in the films, too.
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Those of us who have read the books will know that around the time of the Council of Elrond they were out scouting about for the Nazgul and Orcs (if not exactly then, then shortly thereafter). Their storyline wasn't necessary for LotR, but as with Radagast, I hope the filmmakers take advantage of the opportunity to have them be at home when Bilbo and Co. arrive--just as I hope they take advantage of the opportunity to have Legolas be at home with his Dad when the dwarves and Bilbo get to Thranduil's halls. Let's keep our fingers crossed, Flagg. (If not, we'll have to be content to see them in the fanfilms Born of Hope and here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6ixwyTUdk
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Tim
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Oct 23 2010, 4:48pm
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I think Legolas is going to be there
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so we can both do a happy dance about that lol. Now this talk of him having a girlfriend... not so crazy about.
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Patty
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Oct 23 2010, 4:51pm
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I'll have to adopt a real wait and see attitude about that.
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LoremIpsum
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Oct 23 2010, 5:33pm
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Hopefully he will sign that contract soon
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and Helen Kelly sure deserves some kind of anti award for her negotiating tactics 
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Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea
Oct 23 2010, 5:42pm
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Very neat to see Radagast on the screen- and I always imagined he had some part to play in the battle of Dol Guldur.
... hopefully they don't kill him off to explain his absence in LOTR :/
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Patty
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Oct 23 2010, 5:44pm
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I'm glad she apologized. It was hard to take her arguments seriously
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when she had crossed the line so unprofessionally.
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Ainu Laire
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Oct 23 2010, 5:46pm
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I still think she's more likely a little sister than love interest
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I mean, the actress is still rather young, and her youth is fairly obvious; in the film-verse it's much easier to tell old elves from younger elves, and considering that we know nothing about Legolas' family other than his father and grandfather, it wouldn't be so much a canon breach as filling in the gaps.
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Flagg
Tol Eressea
Oct 23 2010, 6:00pm
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Perhaps the films will contain some kind of dig at her.
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Model the Great Goblin after her or something.
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Curate
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Oct 23 2010, 6:03pm
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First...you guys need to find a more recent picture of Sylvester McCoy. That ones almost 20 years old. Second... if he hasn't signed a contract he is NOT cast he is still in negotiation.
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Earl
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Oct 23 2010, 6:09pm
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... feedback is always appreciated.
I'll be more careful with my words the next time. I should've said "offered the role" instead of "cast". I see what you mean. My bad.
About the pic of Sylvester McCoy on the Home Page, if I make a post the next time, I'll make sure the pics aren't outdated. And I'll see if I can inform the rest of the Home Page news writers about using a newer pic for McCoy when this story is confirmed
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Tim
Tol Eressea
Oct 23 2010, 6:30pm
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I may be down with a little sister in a small role. //
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Gimilkhad
The Shire
Oct 23 2010, 6:53pm
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It's interesting that he first met Jackson whilst playing the Fool in King Lear opposite Ian McKellen, I wonder if this might be an indication of how Radagast might be portrayed, a wild almost simpleton.
Isn't there a line in maybe The Unfinished Tales implying that Saruman and Radagast both failed in their mission, Saruman because was corrupted by his desire to create, Radagast because he lost focus and forgot what he was supposed to be doing.
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Flagg
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Oct 23 2010, 6:58pm
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Saruman starts shouting about 'Radagast the Fool! Radagast the Simple! Radagast Bird-tamer!' when Gandalf mentions Radagast to Saruman during their conversation in Orthanc in FotR (book). So there is some strange sort of correlation there.
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Oct 23 2010, 7:02pm
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Why taint the films with a permanent reminder of something that ought never have happened? Fortunately, I don't think that sort of petty revenge is PJ's style.
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Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you." -On Fairy Stories
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Oct 23 2010, 7:57pm
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They must have met before since he was auditioning for Bilbo a decade ago, besides Sir PJ is apparently a big fan of the Seventh Doctor and I remember McCoy said in one of the interviews that he even owns the original costume. Now all we need is David Tennant and Tom Baker in the Hobbit and I shall die of happiness
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shadowdog
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Oct 23 2010, 8:11pm
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I was going to ask.
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carrioncrow
Lorien
Oct 23 2010, 9:06pm
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If the Istari Radagast is introduced to the story in these two films, I have a strong suspicion he will not make it out alive. In other words, I think it will be a tidier story if he dies rather than wanders off and goes native never to be mentioned in PJ:LOTR. A likely victim in service to foreshadow of Saruman's LOTR betrayal.
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Flagg
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Oct 23 2010, 9:16pm
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...they could show Radagast with lots of moths flying around him and nestling in his hands and such. Then in the scene where the eagles rescue the travellers from the wargs, a moth could appear heralding the arrival of the eagles, the implication being that the eagles were sent by Radagast. Hopefully this would add new meaning to the scene where Gandalf is rescued from Orthanc in FotR, implying that Radagast is still around and helping from behind the scenes.
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Patty
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Oct 23 2010, 9:16pm
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I used to call him Radagast the moth as a joke; too bad he couldn't
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change his shape like Beorn. Or could he? ????
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Flagg
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Oct 23 2010, 9:17pm
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Nah, that would just be too weird
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They should make the moth his friend and messenger, not his alter-ego.
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duats
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Oct 23 2010, 9:30pm
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It's funny you should mention that
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change his shape like Beorn. Or could he? ????
I believe Gandalf describes Radagast as "a master of shapes."
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Eruwestial37
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Oct 24 2010, 12:09am
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To Legolas being there and NO THANKS to him having a girlfriend. It was bad enough Orlando got married (sorry Orlando!) but I just couldn't take my Elf having a girlfriend.
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Eruonen
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Oct 24 2010, 12:14am
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I believe the smiths who reforged Anduril in Rivendell were
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the sons of Elrond.......I recall that info from somewhere.
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N.E. Brigand
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Oct 24 2010, 2:19am
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Yes -- "Radagast is, of course, a worthy Wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue" (FOTR II.ii) //
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Oct 24 2010, 7:17am
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how happy i am to hear he will make an appearance
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Flagg
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Oct 24 2010, 11:39am
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I'd completely forgotten about that, considering how it was only a brief cameo appearance. It would be nice if PJ could get the two actors back for supporting roles in the White Council scenes.
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Malveth The Eternal
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Oct 24 2010, 2:27pm
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Found this on the 'net -- it's very much in the PJ style, I wouldn't be surprised if Raddy looked like this in TH:
http://www.ratewall.com/cpics/917e70df-7482-4934-ae1d-49e300b668e8_Radagast.jpg
Maybe someone can photoshop SM's face in there....
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Oct 24 2010, 2:28pm
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There's a reason for my nick, after all
Only this week found out that Elladan and Elrohir were in the first draft for LotR, but sadly were written out when it got revised 
While they weren't really in Imladris during the Council, I was quite disappointed that they never went to Rohan with the Rangers and instead the Elven army turned up. Oh well, on second thought - better they killed Haldir than my two favourite Peredhil! But I hope they will make up for the omission in LotR and include them somehow in TH. It doesn't need to be a huge part, but I want to see them!
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Flagg
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Oct 24 2010, 2:32pm
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Killing Radagast is a real possibility,
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though I hope they don't go with it. Saruman may have had something to do with the Blue Wizards' disappearance... and if his treachery is brewing even at this early stage, he might just bump off Radagast too. Or he could die facing the Necromancer. And Jackson has already killed off Haldir for dramatic reasons, so it wouldn't be too surprising for him to kill more characters for the same purpose.
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Curate
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Oct 25 2010, 8:04pm
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Attached is a recent head shot of Sylvester-McCoy.
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Flagg
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Oct 25 2010, 8:56pm
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...much older and more wizardly than he does in the earlier pictures.
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Nov 1 2010, 5:57pm
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Based on an even more recent photo
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I've mocked up this image based on a photo of him from his role in Doctors 2 years ago, overlaid onto the radagast trading card. Here he is alongside gandalf:
http://i56.tinypic.com/344w2dz.jpg
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