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Peter Jackson and New Line Announce 'Hobbit' Casting!!!
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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Oct 22 2010, 5:21pm

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No it's not. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Inglorious Basterds (yes it's spelled like that in the film)

You forgot a U. The title is Inglourious Basterds. Tarantino* chose to misspell both words.

*Speaking of spellings, a favorite remark on Pulp Fiction, from a review by John Simon, who didn't like it: "Tarantino" is an anagram for "tarnation".

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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Oct 22 2010, 5:25pm

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Indeed. You suggested Freeman more than five years ago. [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't find the original post, but Scout was crediting you with the idea in June 2005.

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deej
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 5:52pm

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Thanks to greendragon, I figured out there is an Aidan Turner and Aiden Turner are 2 different actors [In reply to] Can't Post

Aidan Turner of Being Human is playing Kili , and Aiden Turner (from 'All My Children' and 'Eastenders') looks to be the Elf King.

A bit confusing, no?Crazy


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Bound
Rohan


Oct 22 2010, 5:53pm

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For people who are worried... [In reply to] Can't Post

That the cast are too young or pretty (to be a Dwarf) - you gotta remember how much of thier faces are going to be covered in prostetics..

Also I think that the life span of a Dwalf is longer than a humans so we can't realy judge how young the actor is comparable to the character they are playing.. time will tell. Plus it's not like Jacksons perfect at casting *cough - stewart townsend- *cough...

Cool


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 22 2010, 5:55pm

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Tending to agree [In reply to] Can't Post

The praise for Fassbender around here is winning me over. When I think back over the few roles I've seen him in, he does have a sort of half-mad, confident underpinning that could really work for Bard. Plus as others rightly say, he's not too hard on the eyes either.

I officially abandon all other bids and give Fassbender my full support. There, now he's sure to get the part.Laugh


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 5:57pm

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I did at that and stand corrected.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 22 2010, 6:00pm

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Now there's some good timing for you. [In reply to] Can't Post

A bit relieved to hear that though... was a little worried by his sudden (and uncommon) silence. Thanks PL.


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 22 2010, 6:09pm

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*eyes darting back and forth* I knew that [In reply to] Can't Post

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Sorry about that. Every so often around here, someone assigns the wrong gender to someone else. Usually it's girls being called guys though. Since I learned that women far outnumber men a TORn (TORn be a femine site don't cha know?) my default assumption is that I am speaking with women most times.

Right then, how bout those Knicks?


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Oct 22 2010, 6:10pm)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 6:13pm

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A bit dissapointed... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm thrilled to finally have some officially-cast actors, but I really wanted Brian Cox for Thorin...all well. Hopefully, he might still pop up somewhere.

As for the rest of the announced cast, none of the other Dwarves were going to be "name" actors, seeing as they exist more as a group than individuals and are fairly interchangeable. Also, with the exception of Elijah Wood, (who was a child actor in the 90's), and Liv Tyler, none of LotR's cast were "names", either; almost the entire cast were "unknown", or hard-working character actors who'd been around for years, but hadn't really gotten any exposure.

Just to speculate on the other names mentioned:

David Tennant: Thranduil, or Drogo? He does look a bit like Elijah...they both have pointy frying-pan faces with bulbous beaks and beady little eyes! Cool

Michael Fassbender: Bard the Bowman, or Beorn?

Jimmy Nesbit: Bard the Bowman, or Balin?

Saoirse Ronan: Primula Brandybuck? She has a Hobbity-lass quality about her.

Stephen Fry: Master of Laketown?

Also, seeing as I've read elsewhere that a LotR cast-member has been cast as Smaug, I wouldn't bet against John Rhys-Davies. I'd have loved Max von Sydow, however.

Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!

MAKE IT HAPPEN, PETER!!!


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 22 2010, 6:24pm

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Really? That's interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

The insider on that site which has been right on everything so far said the same - "you've heard his name in LOTR, twice"


I said earlier that I think this is Alan Howard (voice of the Ring, heard twice in LOTR). And I still think so.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


CINE
Bree


Oct 22 2010, 6:38pm

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Alan Howard [In reply to] Can't Post

Where did you hear that? He'd be terrific to voice Smaug -- that man has an amazing voice! He played a huge part in making the Ring a living character with his Sauron black speech.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 6:43pm

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Some guy on Reddit, [In reply to] Can't Post

who made unsubstantiated claims that he was involved in the production, said that Smaug would be voiced by someone whose voice we had already heard twice in The Lord of the Rings. That narrows it down to John Rhys-Davies and Alan Howard, assuming this fellow is legitimate.

http://www.reddit.com/...rking_on_the_hobbit/


maut
Rivendell


Oct 22 2010, 6:44pm

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Heard his name, not his voice.... [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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one Ring to find them,
one Ring to bring them all,
and in darkness bind them!
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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 6:49pm

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Heard his voice, not his name... // [In reply to] Can't Post

Crazy


maut
Rivendell


Oct 22 2010, 6:54pm

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I mean: [In reply to] Can't Post


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The insider on that site which has been right on everything so far said the same - "you've heard his name in LOTR, twice"


I said earlier that I think this is Alan Howard (voice of the Ring, heard twice in LOTR). And I still think so.

Shocked

One Ring to rule them all,
one Ring to find them,
one Ring to bring them all,
and in darkness bind them!
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Naur ann adriat ammin!
I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin.


ThunderDan
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Oct 22 2010, 6:56pm

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Dwarf ages [In reply to] Can't Post

Elladan, I'm not sure if you meant actual ages or their apparent ages - as in by comparison to a human of and their typical lifespan, but here are the dwarf ages that we know at the beginning of their quest:

Thorin: 195 years old
Balin 178 years old
Dwalin: 169 years old
Gloin: 158 years old
Fili: 82 years old
Kili 77 years old

Now Fili and Kili were the youngest by some 50 years, so everybody else had to be at least 132 years old. Gimli was 62 years old at the time and deemed too young to go along on the trip (though he wanted to). Now if you mean in comparison to a human life cycle then sure Fili and Kili would be sort of like a 20 something and the oldest dwarves would be like 50 something.

All that being said, I agree that the ample amount of costume and prosthesis they will be wearing will make them whatever age they need to be. I think as others have suggested younger actors are being chosen partly because lugging around all those heavy costumes and prosthesis - not to mention battling orcs and goblins in said arraignment can take its toll on the actor.


CINE
Bree


Oct 22 2010, 6:57pm

Post #242 of 279 (1530 views)
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Funny, I see the Smaug voice as the lynchpin of all the casting... [In reply to] Can't Post

All the casting choices are critically important, but for some reason I feel Smaug is the one they must get 100% dead-on right.


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 22 2010, 7:14pm

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He's got the spirit for Bombur, hasn't he? [In reply to] Can't Post

Tangential fact: This ad just won a people's vote award for favourite TV ad of the year. (Otherwise I would never have recognised our new Bombur!)

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 22 2010, 7:17pm

Post #244 of 279 (1524 views)
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But PJ did cast older actors for some of the dwarves. [In reply to] Can't Post

Thorin is supposed to be one of the older (not necessarily the oldest) of the bunch, yet he cast someone who isn't even 40 yet while some of the other actors are around 50, maybe even over 50 (didn't check it out).

Like i said, make up can make you older but then there's also the voice. People sound different when they are older. Why going to the trouble of making one older instead of just casting an older person? Maybe Thorin in the movie will be younger than he was portrayed in the book?


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I think as others have suggested younger actors are being chosen partly because lugging around all those heavy costumes and prosthesis - not to mention battling orcs and goblins in said arraignment can take its toll on the actor.



(This post was edited by Estel78 on Oct 22 2010, 7:18pm)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 7:23pm

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Also, at AICN Xoanon stated regarding Smaug: [In reply to] Can't Post

"Apparently someone familiar with the LOTR 'family' is doing that role..dunno who...I think they meant LOTR Movie 'family'"...

Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!

MAKE IT HAPPEN, PETER!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Oct 22 2010, 7:28pm)


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 7:23pm

Post #246 of 279 (1446 views)
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They may digitally alter his voice. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 22 2010, 7:25pm

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yes, it was a typo of me: [In reply to] Can't Post

Heard his voice twice. That's the correct statement, of course

And Flagg, I actually think the odds are that this guy is close to the production. He's been right on all accounts so far (PJ directing and when he was to be announced, 3D, Itaril (looks like it) and he seemed credible to me. Also Alan Howard is a great call for the voice of Smaug. Who did not think his voice for the ring was great?



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 22 2010, 7:38pm

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Again, why going to the trouble of aging a younger person to the point of making him unrecognisable? [In reply to] Can't Post

No disrespect to Richard Armitage but there are surely older actors around that could have done a similarly good job, if they were really going for a Gimli like appearance.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 22 2010, 7:43pm

Post #249 of 279 (1463 views)
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I think he's probably the real deal, [In reply to] Can't Post

but I'm not entirely convinced. Everyone knew that Jackson was probably directing, and (I'm not sure about this) didn't the 3D news get leaked before the guy on Reddit reported it? And didn't Bond-Of-Blood previously report on the elf-wench? The Reddit spy certainly sounds legitimate but it could also just be a person coming out with really specific and unfalsifiable pieces of information. For example, he said that Peter took issue with an aspect of Guillermo's Lake Town design and planned to change it. This makes him sound like he's intimately familiar with the production, but he could easily be making it up. And we might not find out for another two or three years. And I'm not sure what the situation is on inside information, but aren't actors and technicians and so on meant to agree not to share this sort of information? And aren't there repercussions if they do?

I'm not certain. But if Alan Howard gets announced as the voice of Smaug (or any other specific piece of information this guy gave us that we hadn't heard rumoured previously gets confirmed), then I'll be convinced.


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 22 2010, 7:50pm

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Probably because PJ was so impressed by this guy's audition // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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