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NZ March Reports - Hobbit already moving??
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Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 4:29pm

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I really wish [In reply to] Can't Post

you're right ... so far it seems not be the official confirmation, and I'll cling to hope until the last moment.

Is it really wise for these Union guys to keep the boycott up just to save face (and that's how it feels for me), when it is driving the Hobbit out of the country - and probably not only this one production? They're heavily damaging the NZ film industry, IMO. At times I feel like banging my head into the wall in desperation!



I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.

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ranger123
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 4:31pm

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PJ says the boycott has been lifted, but it is too late [In reply to] Can't Post

Warners are no longer confident in NZ being a secure location anymore.


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 4:55pm

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You know what's said [In reply to] Can't Post

That hope dies last, right?

*sigh* I just don't want to believe it that after all that waiting such a huge blow has to come Frown Sadly, I can't even express my opinion of MEAA properly, this is a family friendly board after all ...



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Brandybuckled
Lorien

Oct 20 2010, 5:33pm

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When the thrush knocks on the portaloo... [In reply to] Can't Post


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save space and film in a portaloo i say! Tongue

The portaloo works as the dwarves' cells in Mirkwood,
on its side would make for a tunnel for Bilbo to crawl through,
on its side the outside (and inside) can be converted into a barrel for the escape to Lake-town,
the "lower chamber" could be where Gollum's scenes are filmed,
for effects shots, set one on fire and it becomes the lonely mountain when Smaug comes out in anger...


(This post was edited by Brandybuckled on Oct 20 2010, 5:35pm)


the_argonath
Lorien


Oct 20 2010, 6:30pm

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Such sad news :( [In reply to] Can't Post

NZ is the absolute best (and only) location TH can be filmed in. Hobbiton is already there, as are most of the crew/offices etc. People who are working on the film are familiar with everything there, and to move it would cause even more huge delays. I'd rather wait an extra year or so for all these problems to be ironed out but to have the movie shot in NZ than see the film in 2 years time but shot in some other country with unfamiliar "stand-in" scenery.
I agree that the UK & ROI would make a good alternative (as a Brit, it would be awesome to know it's so close!) but I'd just be so much more comfortable knowing it's being made in the country that birthed the LotR movies Unsure
Anything we "meagre" fans can do to save the NZ shoot should be done I reckon.

~*Haudh-en-Ndengin the Elves named it, the Hill of Slain, and Haugh-en-Nirnaeth, the Hill of tears... the earth beneath which the swords of the Eldar and the Edain crumbled into rust*~

And so it begins...

(This post was edited by the_argonath on Oct 20 2010, 6:31pm)


Nerwen
Bree


Oct 20 2010, 6:30pm

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UK/Ireland etc are all fine except... [In reply to] Can't Post

NZ is the perfect Middle-earth because it's such a young country, both geologically and when considering human history. That's why the mountains are still peaked and the nature so wild. There are also practically no ancient castle ruins or such that would affect the mood of landscapes or the art department designs. New Zealand's endemic trees and other plants look quite exotic to the rest of the world, which adds an element of "fantasy" to the screen without any special effects! The light is completely different in NZ than in Europe and this shows in the film too - it's easy to spot NZ scenes from the Narnia films just by looking at the colour of water.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the UK countryside and especially Wales - it's just that the unique NZ look has been established as Middle-earth on screen and I want it to stay that way!

"Eyes that fire and sword have seen
and horror in the halls of stone
look at last on meadows green
and trees and hills they long have known
."


dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 20 2010, 6:59pm

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Same here.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I love England, I live here. Scotland is magnificent. But I never knew much about New Zealand until I saw the films and it seemed so right. For me New Zealand is just as much part of the cast as any of the characters and its loss from The Hobbit would be incalculable.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 7:15pm

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The Hobbiton scenes will be shot in NZ, no matter what [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems that most members missed that announcement.


Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 7:52pm

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Technically, won't the "not a boycott" follow the production [In reply to] Can't Post

wherever it goes? The "all for one and one for all" motto. Or will the other unions / guilds say..."Oh boy, too bad NZ Equity, we will gladly take the jobs offered because they will be at our existing contract rates."


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Oct 20 2010, 7:52pm)


Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 7:57pm

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I can see the NZ union calling for a continued "not a boycott" as the [In reply to] Can't Post

production moves away and then SAG and other unions saying....well, what is done is done...we cannot oblige you.


the_argonath
Lorien


Oct 20 2010, 8:48pm

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That's good news :) [In reply to] Can't Post

I must've missed it in my panic/worry/amazement/haste etc Evil

~*Haudh-en-Ndengin the Elves named it, the Hill of Slain, and Haugh-en-Nirnaeth, the Hill of tears... the earth beneath which the swords of the Eldar and the Edain crumbled into rust*~

And so it begins...


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 9:36pm

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Avatar2 & 3// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 9:37pm

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And if it was floating on a raft in international waters...// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 9:41pm

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But now it is not a not a boycott. [In reply to] Can't Post

A Cheeze Whiz sandwich without the bread.

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 9:45pm

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*mods-up*// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 9:46pm

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Cheese Sammich [In reply to] Can't Post

still exists on SAG website here. I keep refreshing to see if anything changes - then I go back and do google searches in case the update is put on a different page.

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim?


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 10:00pm

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Whole lot-a smoke floating round. [In reply to] Can't Post

The lifting has not been made officially public yet. That is what that Kelly was blowing about when she started callin' PJ names.

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Calafalas
Bree

Oct 20 2010, 10:10pm

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Yes! Carpathians [In reply to] Can't Post

I had the same thought. It is quite beautiful in the area...Romania, Hungary, Slovakia. And the surrounding area is quite Shire-like as are a majority of the people Hobbity...being farmers and such. Besides, it should be enormously less expensive to film there, as the economy is quite surpressed. Not that I want The Hobbit moved, but should it be necessary, the Carps could be ideal, imho. Don't know if the Dracula thing would be a hindrance or not. Wink


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 10:45pm

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Drac could always play the Necromancer/Sauron.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Calafalas
Bree

Oct 20 2010, 11:08pm

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Vlad the Necromancer. I t could work. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


elevendayempire
Registered User

Oct 21 2010, 8:42am

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That's why mum's gone to Iceland. [In reply to] Can't Post


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NZ is the perfect Middle-earth because it's such a young country, both geologically and when considering human history.

Like I said, there's always Iceland.

:D


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 21 2010, 8:46am

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Iceland is beautiful [In reply to] Can't Post

No doubt about it. Have been there, absolutely love the country and hope to get back for a visit again. But I still want the Hobbit made in NZ. (And anyway, nowhere in Iceland is anything wooded enough to pose as Mirkwood Wink)



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elevendayempire
Registered User

Oct 21 2010, 9:08am

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Mix and match [In reply to] Can't Post


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No doubt about it. Have been there, absolutely love the country and hope to get back for a visit again. But I still want the Hobbit made in NZ. (And anyway, nowhere in Iceland is anything wooded enough to pose as Mirkwood Wink)

To be honest, I'd mix-and match. Use WB's Leavesden Studios as a main base, and for shooting interiors and greenscreen (not least so we can get Christopher Lee in the film), Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Iceland for exteriors. Oh, and use the Hobbiton sets in NZ. Simple!

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