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NZ March Reports - Hobbit already moving??
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Crunchable Birdses
Rohan


Oct 20 2010, 2:10pm

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The problem is [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree that Ireland would be a stunning location to shoot the films in, but my worry is that the entire production will suffer because of all the logistical fallout of relocating such a massive project at such a late stage.

If two years ago, or even one year ago, they had decided to go with Scotland, or Ireland - I would have been celebrating. To make the decision now? It's madness Crazy

* crunch *


Elven
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 2:10pm

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Thanks for the reports... was The Hobbit lost 2 days ago? [In reply to] Can't Post

Its so good to see some on the ground reporting and pics from people that care that the Hobbit stays in NZ and that the film industry there can remain prosperous and stable, keeping people in jobs and keeping NZs world class Movie Industry facilities alive and flourishing into the future.

There is also extended footage here of the protest which see's one person at the Protest say that NZ lost the Hobbit 2 days ago - shouts of "stop the Boycott" and an interview with Richard Taylor. Gino Acevedo is also there leading a chant quite passionately.- and a rousing 'thank-you PJ' from the crowd near the end.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/...rtainment/42465.html


Radagast_the_Brown
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 2:11pm

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Some of the locations are good [In reply to] Can't Post

but Ireland doesn't have quite the soaring snow capped peaks I envisage for the Misty Mountains, and I don't envisage Lake Town as a small tarn like lake either. There is also the issue as filmmakers said of New Zealand being so untouched that you can film in many places and see very few signs of past human interference, which makes it seem more like a land that has stepped out of a historical fantasy. I think you could get away with it in a number of other countries (Chile is actually the one I feel is closest in varied geography to New Zealand) but there will be a different feel to it for sure.

All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 2:26pm

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We have some decent lakes [In reply to] Can't Post

The largest is 151 square miles. I think that's large enough for Laketown.

You have a point about the mountains though. Ours tend to be wide and sloped, more like colossal hills than proper 'pointy' mountains. Perhaps they could digitally enhance them or shoot establishing shots of the Misty Mountains in some other country. Or even put some unused LotR mountain footage to use for establishing shots.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 20 2010, 2:29pm

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How about filming the Hobbit(s the US State of North Dakota? [In reply to] Can't Post

It is flat as a board in its center. They could green screen the whole state at Canadian border and build and digitally construcr anything they need,EvilEvilEvilEvil

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The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 2:42pm

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Oh my if it wasn't so sad it would be funny [In reply to] Can't Post

"You're so whipped it's unbelievable!" is what they shouted.

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CuChulainn
The Shire

Oct 20 2010, 2:42pm

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Irish 'Misty Mountains' [In reply to] Can't Post

I always envisaged the portion of the Misty Mountains that Bilbo's party trekked on to be like those here http://newboards.theonering.net/...ng=locations;#201124 that I had posted pics of. i.e 'trekable' mountains. Not the snow capped Methedras/southern Misty Mountain Moria variety, where The Hobbit doesn't go anyway.


Salmar
Bree


Oct 20 2010, 2:44pm

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March Videos [In reply to] Can't Post

Several Here:-

http://www.youtube.com/results?uploaded=d&search_query=March+over+The+Hobbit&search_type=videos&suggested_categories=24%2C1%2C10%2C25&uni=3

"...In the deep places he gives thought to music great and terrible; and the echo of that music runs through all the veins of the world in sorrow and in joy; for if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth. The Teleri learned much of Ulmo, and for this reason their music has both sadness and enchantment. Salmar came with him to Arda, he who made the horns of Ulmo that none may ever forget who once has heard them..."

"Of the beginning of days", The Silmarillion.


Bound
Rohan


Oct 20 2010, 2:52pm

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Ireland .. scothland and Wales [In reply to] Can't Post

Between these 3 close countries could you cover what would be needed. In fact I remember in the irish press around the time that the fellowship came out - Peter was quoted as saying that Ireland would have worked as middle earth - but hey wanted to work in NZ..

It's a sad day for NZ if it doesn't get shot there though.

Also - hardly fair to make banners about a country that isn't offically attached to the movie either...


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 2:53pm

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I have never, ever in my life [In reply to] Can't Post

punched or attacked someone in real life. Never. I am a very friendly person who hates all sorts of violence. But this person (assuming it's Lealand-Ward or some spokesperson in the vid) who says TH is only moving because Warners are making more money elsewhere... If I were there, I don't know if I would be able to control my rage towards her.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


maut
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 3:05pm

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I'm not concerned at all [In reply to] Can't Post

I just want to believe that PJ and his team will do their best to make a true Middle- Earth, The questiopn where it is situated is of no importance for me, though NZ sets were great in LOTR. If not NZ I'd prefer some UK places, may be in Wales or Scotland.
Or, damn it, why not Russia?! Laugh(oh, oh, this is nothing else but joke)
I just trust PJ. He'll do everything right, I bet.

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Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 20 2010, 3:11pm

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I know what you mean... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I very rarely get angry or let my anger come to the surface. But sometimes when I'm pushed over the edge, I give it my all.

I remember back when I was in school, I used to go to my brother's class (he's 2 years elder to me) to see him, and some of his classmates used to rag and bully me. I was quite short then, and even sitting those guys used to be the same height as me standing. One day while walking out of my brother's class this group of guys said something that really hurt me (it wasn't the first time they'd said something like that!), and I turned around and socked the guy sitting on the first bench in his face. I think it took everyone by surprise. And I was totally proud of myself, until he got over it and came and hammered the crap outta me... he and his friends.

Well, that was the only time I ever physically fought with someone in school. But it was SO worth it Cool Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do... even if the result ain't so pleasant.

I'm not saying someone should punch whoever's behind this mess in the face... but the people affected should STAND UP for their rights and not let themselves be bullied and pushed around.

It's what PJ said about Word War II being a war worth fighting... it was worth it because someone's freedom was at stake! Smile



Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 3:27pm

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Early shooting would have to be in NZ or some other Southern Hemisphere [In reply to] Can't Post

location as the seasons allow. Anything in the northern hemisphere would have to be shot probably in May through the summer and next fall.

I am sure the existing Hobbiton will be used...but other locations outside of NZ? Australia? Argentina? Chile?

NZ better quickly pass a big tax incentive to keep it.


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Oct 20 2010, 3:29pm)


maut
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 3:39pm

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well they can start shooting [In reply to] Can't Post

 in a studio instead of landscape shootings

One Ring to rule them all,
one Ring to find them,
one Ring to bring them all,
and in darkness bind them!
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Naur ann adriat ammin!
I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 3:40pm

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Exactly... [In reply to] Can't Post

... if push really came to shove they can shoot the entire movie inside a studio.

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Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 3:41pm

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Well said [In reply to] Can't Post

The longer I think about it, the more I feel it unfair to the people in NZ to move the filming away. They have waited for so long while all the other problems were solved, the MGM mess and everything. To take the filming away now, with the greenlight given and the filming within reach, seems so unfair to them and the ones who made it possible to film the Hobbit in the first place.



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RobNZ
Bree


Oct 20 2010, 3:41pm

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even better [In reply to] Can't Post

save space and film in a portaloo i say! Tongue


maut
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 3:42pm

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At least [In reply to] Can't Post

they could easily do that during winter periodWink

One Ring to rule them all,
one Ring to find them,
one Ring to bring them all,
and in darkness bind them!
__________________________________
Naur ann adriat ammin!
I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin.


ranger123
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 3:52pm

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Changing location = another delay [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't remember which article, might have been NY Times, but when the news started to break about the greenlight, one article quoted a source saying that if production location had to be changed then this would be a further delay and would require a new budget.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 3:55pm

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The timeframe should be easier this way [In reply to] Can't Post

If they were filming in New Zealand, they'd have to squeeze as much outdoor shooting as they could into February and March, when the weather is still fairly good. If they're filming in the northern hemisphere, they can take their time and film outdoors all through summer, and in the months immediately preceding and following it, too. Indoor scenes can be shot in studios in northern-hemisphere spring, autumn and winter. Not that I'm saying the quality of the film will definitely benefit as a result of the alternate timeframe, but it's something worth thinking about.


sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 20 2010, 4:01pm

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Looks like the Unions may have just destroyed the movie industry in NZ [In reply to] Can't Post

Hard to believe that a few people could be so selfish & play with fire at everyone elses expense, to the point that they destroy the livelihoods of 1000's of people in their own country. I think the NZ Union members might have to look at moving to a new country now, because they won't be treated well in their own country anymore after what they did. Good luck to them finding acting jobs in NZ...no one will hire them now. A bullet in the foot can't feel too good, especially since it deflected and hit 1000's of other jobs.

I think NZ Equity unions games have just ended in the worst possible way, and the ones behind it responsible for the fallout are going to feel it for a long time, not to mention all the innocent by-standards that will be greatly affected, and also not to mention all the 'fans' that will be affected.

At least the NZ Equity union won't have to worry about their members having unfavorable working conditions...
Mad


RobNZ
Bree


Oct 20 2010, 4:08pm

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Looks that way now [In reply to] Can't Post

Quote: "Next week Warners are coming down to New Zealand to make arrangements to move the production offshore. It appears we cannot make films in our own country even when substantial financing is available." from Peters own lips I believe.

Source: http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/4255670/Hobbit-looks-headed-overseas

I hope those actors are permanently blacklisted and never get work again!!!
I dont think they are going to be very welcome in NZ from now on.


(This post was edited by RobNZ on Oct 20 2010, 4:10pm)


Peredhil lover
Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 4:09pm

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It's not easy [In reply to] Can't Post

not to feel that way, isn't it? Though I still cling to some 'fool's hope' that things work out for NZ.



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sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 20 2010, 4:22pm

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The only thing that may give some hope is [In reply to] Can't Post

if these announcements of moving offshore, are the studios way of giving the NZ equity union a kick to force them to stop the boycott, so that production can begin immediately. I think this is a warning shot across the bow, and if NZ equity don't stop their boycott, it will be over. However if they stop it immediately, there may still be a chance that Warner will have called their bluff, and they can have no more delays in making the movie.

My fear is that the union won't take the hint or get a grip on reality, and keep the boycott in place. I think if there is a chance, it is a small window of time before all hope is lost.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 4:26pm

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That's how I felt about GdT directing [In reply to] Can't Post

I held onto the idea that he might return to The Hobbit for so long that it's almost embarrassing. It was only when At the Mountains of Madness was announced that I finally gave up.

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