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New York Times: Jackson to direct 'The Hobbit'

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Oct 1 2010, 10:48pm

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The New York Times is busting out major headlines today: First with the revelation that 'The Hobbit' films will be filmed in 3-D, and now, all but confirming Peter Jackson will direct the two 'prequels.' (Woo Hoo!!! - Sorry, had to get that in there) According Michael Cieply's article, an announcement to this affect will be coming in the next few days.
Mr. Jackson, who is a producer and writer of the two "Hobbit" films, agreed also to become their director after Mr. del Toro left the project earlier this year, citing the delays. Mr. Jackson's agreement to direct the movies has been in place but hasn't formally closed because it depends on the studios' willingness to begin production soon, according to people briefed on his status.

The first "Hobbit" film is expected to be released in mid-December 2012, the second a year later. Mr. Jackson has said he can direct the films only if those release dates can be met.

There are some other great details about the production in the full article over at The New York Times. [Read More]

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Altaira
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Oct 2 2010, 4:06am

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Just when things seemed they couldn't get any worse, now it seems they can't get any better [In reply to] Can't Post

Not that I'm complaining. Nope. Not one complaint. Okay, maybe one...

I'm going to get hoarse going: WAAAHOOOO all weekend, lol!!! LaughLaughLaughCoolHeartSmile

Okay, maybe one more...

I'm afraid to go to sleep tonight because I'm afraid I'm going to wake up and find out today was all a dream. *drinks coffee and waits for 'greenlight' headline* WinkCool


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Leviathan's Bane
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Oct 2 2010, 4:08am

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Can it be true?!! [In reply to] Can't Post

There are so many things I want to say right now, but for now I will simply post this: Angelic!


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tiamy
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Oct 2 2010, 4:11am

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After a series of low points in these past few days regarding the production (the union, the fire), I was a bit surprised about this news.


Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 4:15am

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I ain't going to buy it until it is officially official.

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Leviathan's Bane
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Oct 2 2010, 4:29am

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I agree, *but*... [In reply to] Can't Post

But I can experience cynicism any day of my mundane week. Unmitigated geek bliss, not so much! Wink Here's to Sir Jackson and the Quest which lies before him! *raises pint* Godspeed Sir Jackson! We who were about to die, salute you!


"So knights are mythical!" said the younger and less experienced dragons. "We always thought so."

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 4:41am

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No cynicism [In reply to] Can't Post

Just cautious: Don't want to get up to be let down...again. When the official announcement(s) come I will race you to the nearest bar.

Hopes Crushed TOO Many Times;
KS

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Leviathan's Bane
Rivendell


Oct 2 2010, 4:58am

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*pats KS on the back* Aye, lad, I'll meet you in the Green Dragon... [In reply to] Can't Post

 Or the Prancing Pony...or the Bird and the Baby. Whatever floats your ferry!


"So knights are mythical!" said the younger and less experienced dragons. "We always thought so."

- J.R.R. Tolkien, "Farmer Giles of Ham"

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Tim
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Oct 2 2010, 5:11am

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Well two big papers and Finke... [In reply to] Can't Post

say PJ is lined up to direct so I believe it, MGM just needs to pull through as reported then I'm setting up a Green Dragon right here yeah baby yeah.

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Voorhas
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Oct 2 2010, 5:13am

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We shall see... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I imagine they'll wait on an official announcement until the news cycle begins again on Monday.

The 3D-ness isn't very appealing to me, but I suppose it's inevitable in these days of diminishing box-office returns. Gotta fill those seats.

Hope everything sorts itself out, anyway!


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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 2 2010, 6:28am

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Hooray P.J. !
Big old Boo to 3D!
Guess I'll have to settle for that version but it won't be the kind of film it deserves to be with that gimmick tacked on. I mean, would the book be improved if it was reprinted in pop-up format? I'll try hard not to go on about the 3D thing but for the record, it's really a shame in my mind.
On a different note, who's up for a TORN/green light party in Vegas!?!

The Trees will have their revenge!

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thesithempire
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Oct 2 2010, 6:37am

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Well, I have to admit that I wasn't initially onboard with the idea of Jackson directing any more Tolkien-penned books. ROTK had so completely soured me (and on several levels), that I began to feel that FOTR was a fluke, and that Jackson was eminently unqualified to interpret Tolkien on film.

Now, however, I oddly enough feel that Jackson, after every hurdle he's had to overcome these past few years to get The Hobbit off the ground, is in a unique position to undersand Bilbo Baggins in a way that few others really could. He's had to deal with Thorin-like greed, Spider-like snares, even Smaug-like fires! Like Bilbo's dwarves, his entire mission to see this thing to completion was sabotage and hijacked before even reaching the foothills of the mountain! And heck, Ganda--er--Guillermo was forced to go off to tackle other dark matters! But through it all, Jackson emerged with the ring in hand.

So, I say "Congrats, Peter"! Your struggles and tenacity have won me over. I seriously believe these two films will be the greatest of your career!


Frodosfriend
Rivendell

Oct 2 2010, 6:54am

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Best news ever [In reply to] Can't Post

and to the person above me... what the hell was wrong with ROTK?


thesithempire
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Oct 2 2010, 7:00am

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Don't get me started... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I'm feeling positive vibes for PJ right now, and I don't want to sour them by rehashing the fiasco of a film that was ROTK. If you're really interested, however, PM me, and I'll give you a rundown. Otherwise, the short version: the screenplay, production choices, directing choices, and editing. Shame too b/c I think FOTR is one of the all-time great films, and ROTK is to me practically unwatchable (an opinion I'd hoped would soften over time -- but I'd hoped in vain.)


xy
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Oct 2 2010, 7:08am

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Good and bad both in the same news [In reply to] Can't Post

1) Good . PJ being back. I said a while ago the longer we didn't have a director, he would be doing it.

2) Bad: The gimmicky 3-D. I hope this means there will be both the standard 2-D version and 3-D will be in exclusive theatres only...


LoremIpsum
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Oct 2 2010, 7:12am

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It feels like the universe is back in it's proper order [In reply to] Can't Post

YAY FOR PJ AND NZ

Though I had a bit of hope for the Mortal Engines to be done firstTongue


Patty
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Oct 2 2010, 8:13am

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Absolutely! [In reply to] Can't Post

Out of all of these frustrations comes the best news possible. I'm so happy he took it on.

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Patty
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Oct 2 2010, 8:18am

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"...I can experience cynicism any day of my mundane week. Unmitigated geek bliss, not so much!" [In reply to] Can't Post

So true. And while I regret for the many others who are less than cheerful about it, I scream hurray for the 3D, too. I'll be buying the blu-rays in 2D, though.

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Nesse
Lorien

Oct 2 2010, 8:43am

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At last a glimmer of hope [In reply to] Can't Post

I used to post quite a lot back in the days of 'who will play Bilbo and the rest' but since things have went belly up regarding TH I've been almost scared to check the forum. I've went from about 4 or 5 times per day to twice, each day hoping and praying for some good news....and this looks like it, although I wont be celebrating till its official (puts champagne on ice). There was a time when I really though PJ was gonna say f*** it no movie is worth this hassle, but he's hanging in there and us with him. Hurrah for PJ and TH Smile


Elven
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Oct 2 2010, 8:58am

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Punches air!! .... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll pull up a beanbag and sit with you Altaira - my legs have gone from dancing around the room.
I can't wait till the official announcement - I just have always thought it would happen, and now ... just a few days to wait ....
Let It Be PJ!!!
Let It Be PJ!!!
Let It Be PJ!!!


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dormouse
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Oct 2 2010, 9:09am

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Oh, pleeeeeeeeeease.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Daren't celebrate yet until it's actually announced...... *Wonders how long a person can hold their breath*


Vangalad
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Oct 2 2010, 10:03am

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What a relief! [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope the source is correct and the official announcement comes soon!
Let's get the party started! Wink


Silmaril
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Oct 2 2010, 10:51am

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please, let this be true! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


the_argonath
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Oct 2 2010, 11:07am

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Fabulous news indeed!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

After reading the recent headlines I (along with everyone else) was v. worried, but now if all this is true then it seems things are heading in the right direction!! Definitely brightened up my day!!
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grammaboodawg
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Oct 2 2010, 12:26pm

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My ears are ringing with SPIKING BLOODPRESSURE!!! I'm waiting to hear it from Peter. But OMG!!!!!!!!!

The delays were meant to be to put the filmmmaking into Peter's timeframe of do-able. I'm so scared and thrilled and panicked.... *tearing* I know that GdT would have done a wonderful job, and I'm sincerely sorry it didn't work out for him to direct these. It's right and good that he's still involved and his contributions/development will still be a part of this project. But having Peter directing these is so right, imho. I knew he wouldn't let this fall apart. I knew his reverence and belief in Tolkien's work and these films would break any barriers... but to see it hopefully coming together is so overwhelming.

Thank you for hanging in there, Peter... and Wingnut... and Weta... but I hope you think twice about the 3D. Keep the look of the films consistent, please.

*polishes green lightbulb... holds breath* This is so freaky!!!

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Flagg
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Oct 2 2010, 12:26pm

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The only way this could get better... [In reply to] Can't Post

...is if Guillermo del Toro was directing it. I don't think I'll ever completely get over the disappointment of his departure. But Peter Jackson is a worthy replacement, and likely the best we could hope for under the circumstances.


DiveTwin
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Oct 2 2010, 1:04pm

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Will be ecstatic when this is confirmed. I feel the book was handed back to Peter Jackson and he decided "there's room for a little more .... " regarding his experiences with Middle Earth. Great!

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dormouse
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Oct 2 2010, 1:08pm

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Replacement? [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't know, Flagg. Much as I'd have liked to see Guillermo's visualisation of The Hobbit, I could never think of PJ as a 'replacement'; the GdT version would have grown out of of Peter Jackson's films, with PJ intimately involved as producer/writer. Now it seems he will direct as well (*holds breath for the proper announcement*) and I'm delighted and relieved.

For me the only way this could get any better would be if they announce that the 3D part is a mistake and it will be a real film, like LotR, with the emphasis on artwork, acting, storytelling and music...


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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 1:43pm

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Peter Jackson is a great New Zealand patriot & one of the greatest film makers alive. [In reply to] Can't Post

His love of country and of film would not allow him to step away from the Hobbit. He understands the importance of this set of films to his homeland film industry, that he has had such a large hand in building. I had no doubt, that if it came down to a good fight, that Pete would see it through to the end. I am happy that Guillermo del Toro became involved and hope that his amazing vision lives on in the script and eventually makes it to the screen. I am glad that Richard Taylor and Weta, in all of its forms, are at hand and ready to perform the tasks needed to bring this wonderfilled little book (the least of all books) to the silver screen. I am Glad that John Howe & Alan Lee are there to lend their incredible talents. If this is indeed the beginning of the official beginning I am filled with joy.

Kangi Ska

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Oct 2 2010, 1:43pm

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maut
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Oct 2 2010, 1:49pm

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Yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!
Great news - this made me happy !

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one Ring to find them,
one Ring to bring them all,
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LoremIpsum
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Oct 2 2010, 2:04pm

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For me the only way this could get any better would be if they announce that the 3D part is a mistake and it will be a real film, like LotR, with the emphasis on artwork, acting, storytelling and music...

I fail to see why it can't be a great 3D movie with a heart, LOTR had enormous amounts of special and computer generated effects which actually enhanced the story and cinematic experience in general. It's a tricky thing to do this and Jackson is master of it.




Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 2:16pm

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Yes, Real 3-D will turn the entire digitally rendered movies into huge special effects. [In reply to] Can't Post

I will not call them films because there is no film involved and the end product is more closely akin to a video game than a film.

Kangi Ska

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Anduril1993
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Oct 2 2010, 2:24pm

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Finally news we have all been waiting for!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

HURRAY! HURRAY! HURRAY!



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Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shal be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.


Aragorn the Elfstone
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Oct 2 2010, 2:27pm

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Exactly [In reply to] Can't Post

To think that these films might not be shot on traditional film breaks my heart. Unsure


LoremIpsum
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Oct 2 2010, 2:37pm

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And there is nothing wrong about them being huge special effects [In reply to] Can't Post

Because the world is moving forward and I don't see how storing visual information in digital form instead of film tape is going to ruin cinema forever.Tongue


RaoulJ
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Oct 2 2010, 2:47pm

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Thanks Mister [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks Kangi Ska, as always you are absolutely right.. As much as I want to explain
what is wrong with 3d, I'm not gonna. Let us be happy about the 'news' and hope this is true..

This isn't the thread for a 3d-discussion.. It probably is below this one, or above... and probably both.


sara
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Oct 2 2010, 2:49pm

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PJ directing is like coming home after being away for so long... [In reply to] Can't Post

All of a sudden you feel comfortable and cozy again and you know everything is going to be okay.

We can lay our fears to rest. (Well for the most part, I'm still not feeling good at all about the 3-D thing)

THANK YOU SIR PETER!

All this good news at once...I'm not sure how to take it all in!!!...

Close the door, put out the light.
You know they won't be home tonight.
The snow falls hard and don't you know?
The winds of Thor are blowing cold.
They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through.

They choose the path where no-one goes.

They hold no quarter.


sara
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Oct 2 2010, 2:59pm

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Close the door, put out the light.
You know they won't be home tonight.
The snow falls hard and don't you know?
The winds of Thor are blowing cold.
They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through.

They choose the path where no-one goes.

They hold no quarter.


Rivendweller
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Oct 2 2010, 3:08pm

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Believe - and it will happen // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 3:09pm

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It is not a matter of storage: talk to the film lovers. [In reply to] Can't Post

It has to do with how the images are manipulated and the feel of reality. Even Avatar (as good as it was) still felt like a cartoon. The closest that anyone has come co a believable digital character was Gollum in LotR and he worked because of the incredible amount of time and effort involved in his creation I do not want the Hobbit to be like Avatar. I want to sit back, without distracting glasses, and get totally involved in the reality of Middle-earth just like I did with Fellowship of the Ring. 3-D is interesting but still only a way for the studios to try and pump up the box office. They risk loosing the older fan base by pandering to the youngsters.

Furthermore just because something is old does not make it bad. There is a reason why 3-D (Which has been around for 60 + years) has not become the dominant format in cinema.

Kangi Ska

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Rivendweller
Lorien


Oct 2 2010, 3:15pm

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Your faith and belief are inspiring [In reply to] Can't Post

You have never given up hope, nor have you ever forgotten to put " something " about the Hobbit in your footer / signature for lo these many years ! You have long held out hope and faith in Peter Jackson et.al. and I have been silently rooting for you all along. Angelic


There's something of everything here, The Shire and the Golden Wood and Gondor and kings' houses and inns and meadows and mountains all mixed.

....and there are Elves when you want them.
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Flagg
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Oct 2 2010, 3:58pm

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What about DVDs? [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you watch DVDs or Blu-ray discs? Those are 100% digital too. To classify them as video games is a bit of a stretch.


Alientraveller
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Oct 2 2010, 4:35pm

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I'd hardly use 'video game' as a derogatory term [In reply to] Can't Post

Especially as they, and not the majority of Hollywood, are holding the gold standard for storytelling and imagery nowadays: just look at Assassin's Creed, Red Dead Redemption, Call of Duty and Uncharted, to name a few classics released within the past year. Anyway, as I wrote in another thread it won't matter to me as I wear glasses anyway, and I am very, very pleased to see PJ will direct considering he's been intimately involved with the project, since LOTR and with Guillermo.

As I recall, PJ was scared about tackling Middle-earth again. I'm reminded of Frodo and Gandalf's exchange: Jackson may wish he didn't have to direct, but that is not for him to decide, all he has to do is to decide what to do with the time he has been given.


Glaurung63
Lorien

Oct 2 2010, 5:25pm

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happier than a Took with a Prancing Pony pint... [In reply to] Can't Post

I jumped upon reading the news! It's like the universe is correcting itself....


Finrod
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Oct 2 2010, 5:25pm

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Film to Digital to Film [In reply to] Can't Post


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To think that these films might not be shot on traditional film breaks my heart. Unsure


It needn’t break your heart.

Just for one thing, it might well be shot on film for the initial capture. There exist twin‐lens rigs that capture two film frames simultaneously for a stereo effect, and which have things like aperture and focus distance governed by the same control. Both would be the same anamophic lenses as they normally shoot with.

But as they did with The Lord of the Rings, once the film has been processed (‘developed’), they then scan that film into a computer so that they can integrate a multitude of factors including reversing the anamorphic compression and adding special effects, color correction, digital grading, digital stunt doubles, and who knows what else.

Then when they’re finally done diddling with the imagery, they output their frames back to film again in anamophic widescreen format. That way you run it through a film projector with a reverse‐anamophic lens on it to project on to the big screen. I suppose that for polarized ‘3D’, they must run twin projectors, too.

I have no idea whether they’ll initially shoot it using film. They might, as sensor tech may not be up to creating the full 35mm frame in three color channels at full resolution. I don’t keep up with all that, so don’t know. There may also be field‐of‐view and depth‐of‐field issues on a purely digital capture that they wish to avoid. They might prefer to shoot with film lenses for those reasons, too. Again, I can’t speak to that particular tech, because I do not know what’s available; every time I look, I’m amazed by how far they’ve come, though.

What I am sure of is that Peter and his crew at Weta Digital will do whatever makes the most sense. The final movie will certainly be ‘printed’ on film for wider cinematic distribution.

Film is just one form of capture medium. Digital is another. Peter has shown that he can combine the strengths of each to produce something that’s better than either by itself was previously.

Why fret about it? It really doesn’t matter.

For the record, I do shoot with a ‘digital 35mm’ camera, a Nikon D700. I can do far more with it than you can with film. This has next to nothing in common with the common digicams in your cell phone or shirt pocket. Don’t make the mistake of judging professional digital photography based on some little consumer toy.

…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.
The Silmarillion, pp 150-151
while Felagund laughs beneath the trees
in Valinor and comes no more
to this grey world of tears and war.
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Doriath
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Oct 2 2010, 5:26pm

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Well said Kangi [In reply to] Can't Post

I have a feeling those in the pro 3D camp tend to be the kiddies and it appears to be quite a challenge to explain to them why the 3D format should not be used on this particular project. I need these films to be real escapism to Middle Earth. If I want to ride a roller coaster I'll go to the amusement park.

The Trees will have their revenge!


Malveth The Eternal
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Oct 2 2010, 5:59pm

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Disappointed [In reply to] Can't Post

I just don't like PJ as a director. And I hate 3D.
Very let down how this all turned out.
I'd honestly prefer no movie at all.
At least the Silmarillion is unfilmable...

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 6:05pm

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It is not the storage..it is the manipulation. [In reply to] Can't Post

An good film movie camera captures 10 times as much information as a good digital movie camera.

Shooting on site is not enhanced by 3-D so there is a big incentive to Mocap your actors and create the background. Then you enhance the mocaps to fit with the digitally created background. You wind up with Avatar. Nothing on the screen is real.

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 6:14pm

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I can use video games up as a perfect example of what movies are becoming. [In reply to] Can't Post

Video games do not depict reality they create their own reality. This is not bad. It is just not what the Hobbit films need. I believe they should look and feel like the LotR films and that can only be achieved by shooting on film. Digital enhancement and special effects were used on the original films but the movies realistic feel is due to seeing real images of real people and reel places for the most part.

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Doriath
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Oct 2 2010, 6:22pm

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Exactly [In reply to] Can't Post

And, do museum curators lament the fact that the great paintings of the world were not made with scratch 'n sniff technology? Just think how many more kids they could get in the door! ;)

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rings7
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Oct 2 2010, 6:28pm

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...is if Guillermo del Toro was directing it. I don't think I'll ever completely get over the disappointment of his departure. But Peter Jackson is a worthy replacement, and likely the best we could hope for under the circumstances.


PJ is no replacement. In that case, i think It was GDT who was "replacing" Peter in the director's chair. A worthy replacement as you might say. I also wanted so much to see GDT's work on the Hobbit. And i was also devastated for this departure. But i also see this as simply the job going back to its original creator after the "replacement" left.


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Valinor


Oct 2 2010, 6:29pm

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Oh, gosh I hope this means the ball is rolling. [In reply to] Can't Post

I know some would prefer another director, but I'm happy with PJ. Smile



And suddenly the Tornadoes saw afar off a greenlight, as it were a cloud with a living heart of flame;
and they knew that this was no vision only, but that PJ had made a new thing: The Hobbit, the Film that Is.


Flagg
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Oct 2 2010, 6:29pm

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Have you seen many 3D films? [In reply to] Can't Post

I know I've only seen one (Avatar), but I thought it looked highly realistic. When I look at one of the interior scenes aboard the humans' spaceship, I don't see anything blurry, cartoonish or lacking in detail. I'll admit that the sense of depth was intensified (even when watching it in 2D it looked pretty three-dimensional), but apart from that I didn't notice any difference from a native 2D film. The way you're talking about 3D makes it sound as if you're talking about 300 or Beowulf, where all the backgrounds are completely CG, and sometimes the characters are, too. Now THAT would be terrible for The Hobbit.


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Oct 2 2010, 6:39pm

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Alassëa Eruvande
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Oct 2 2010, 6:52pm

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Laugh

I was inspired by the "almost greenlit" thread earlier. We've got to start sending green vibes out there!



And suddenly the Tornadoes saw afar off a greenlight, as it were a cloud with a living heart of flame;
and they knew that this was no vision only, but that PJ had made a new thing: The Hobbit, the Film that Is.


Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 6:58pm

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Saw my first Polorized color movie in 1968 [In reply to] Can't Post

Also saw a bunch of the old blue and red ones (I think anamorphic is the term). I saw Avatar & Jaws 3-D and a sprinkling of 3-D horror Films. Also Burton's Alice. I am not an expert but I have taken the time to learn a bit. I believe that all films will be in 3-D when they lick the glasses issue. That will still leave out around 18% of the potential audience that can't watch 3-D films without getting nauseous. There are also some potential health related issues that are being looked at in regards to long term viewing of 3-D films.

"it sound as if you're talking about 300 or Beowulf, where all the backgrounds are completely CG, and sometimes the characters are, too." This is a perfect description of Avatar (Admitted, Weta did it very well) and "Now THAT would be terrible for The Hobbit"

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SirDennisC
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Oct 2 2010, 7:06pm

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Oh now I get it [In reply to] Can't Post

at first I thought it was some kind of tree-hugger thing. Forest for the trees and all that.


Doriath
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Oct 2 2010, 7:13pm

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The world is changed... [In reply to] Can't Post

I feel it in the forums. I feel it in the theatres. I smell it in the concessions. Much that once was is lost, for few now live who seem to care. It began with the forging of the great films. But the race of men said, "Wouldn't it be cool if these were in 3D and we wouldn't have to stretch our short attention spans on an actual story"?

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LoremIpsum
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Oct 2 2010, 7:20pm

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It's a matter of developing the technology [In reply to] Can't Post

that's why I'm glad there are film makers like Cameron and Jackson who have enough guts and talent to try something new.


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They risk loosing the older fan base by pandering to the youngsters.

Damn kids these days with their newfangled 3D and CGI!

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 7:44pm

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I want us all in one room chearing at the death of Smaug. [In reply to] Can't Post

I do not want to have to see the films without my wife who is 3-D intolerant.
These films are for all of us so lets get them in a format we all can appreciate.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 2 2010, 7:47pm

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"Forest for the Trees" [In reply to] Can't Post

A thing some cannot see.

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Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2010, 8:16pm

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:-D [In reply to] Can't Post

It's not like it's a shocker or anything, as it's been pretty much assumed for a while now that if The Hobbit is made, PJ will direct it...

But I get to be happy anyways Laugh


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Flagg
Tol Eressea

Oct 2 2010, 8:29pm

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The Hobbit's backgrounds won't be CG [In reply to] Can't Post

It sounds like the only 'real 3D' film you've seen is Avatar. The older 3D films like Jaws 3D use the 'anaglyph' (blue-and-red) method, which is a completely different format to James Cameron's real 3D. Avatar looks cartoonish because it was filmed against a green screen and had all the computer-generated backgrounds added in post-production. Alice in Wonderland was filmed in 2D against a green screen, then converted to 3D in post, which is why it looks double-fake.

As far as I know, NO ONE has yet attempted to shoot a realistic native 3D film against real backdrops. The backgrounds in Peter Jackson's LotR look real not because they were shot in 2D, but because they were shot in a real place, New Zealand, rather than being generated by a computer. I'm confident that he'll be able to pull off the 'realistic 3D' look (he might even be one of the first; I can't think of any real 3D films so far other than Avatar, only fake ones like Alice and Clash of the Titans). I guess we'll have to wait for Peter to come out with a statement explaining how he plans to use the 3D tech, or, alternatively, wait two years and judge the result for ourselves...


Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 9:07pm

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The Bubble 1968 please feel free to look it up. [In reply to] Can't Post

It was polarized and in regular color.

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 2 2010, 9:54pm

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Why haven't other sources echoed PJ directing 3-D Hobbit. [In reply to] Can't Post

You would think that it would pop up somewhere.Unsure

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macfalk
Valinor


Oct 2 2010, 9:59pm

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I'm with Kangi - everyone should have the opportunity to watch it. Also, when Thorin speaking to Bilbo in his dying breath, the last thing I want to do is to fiddle with my clumsy 3D glasses. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Huan71
Lorien

Oct 2 2010, 10:37pm

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Real life 3D...not CGI... [In reply to] Can't Post

A "real life" 3D film.
...There was also a similar American movie!
BTW...I'm not saying this film would be your "cup of tea"...Just an example of the technology!


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Huan71
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Oct 2 2010, 11:01pm

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Great post finrod!... [In reply to] Can't Post


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For the record, I do shoot with a ‘digital 35mm’ camera, a Nikon D700. I can do far more with it than you can with film. This has next to nothing in common with the common digicams in your cell phone or shirt pocket. Don’t make the mistake of judging professional digital photography based on some little consumer toy.


....and BTW i hope to get a Sony A560 soon. not as flashy as yours, but a family member works for Sony and can get me a discount lol !

Whatever Dee The Hobbits filmed in, i'm just pleased that the last day or two has seen some really positive news!



Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Oct 2 2010, 11:30pm

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* is suddenly swoony* U can haz fangirlz sword. ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post



Ainu Laire
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Oct 3 2010, 1:03am

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I knew October would start off better! [In reply to] Can't Post

September was a horrible month. October will be better, yes? :D

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Oct 3 2010, 1:42am

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This is the best news I have heard all day Laugh
It's a bummer about the 3D though... Anyway I can't sit still I'm so excited!

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Oct 3 2010, 2:33am

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WOOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I haven't posted in a while simply because the news that was flowing in was so damned depressing, but this is GREAT NEWS!!!! I knew that Jackson would swoop in and save this thing!

A word to Sir Peter if he's reading these posts:
DON'T BE DISCOURAGED!!! We all know how you felt a bit apprehensive about coming back to the director's chair for Middle-earth, but we here at TORN and legions of fans around the globe want you to know that we have the utmost confidence that these Hobbit films will be nothing less than stellar! We also hope that you haven't grown too weary of working in the trenches for these films and can only speculate on the emotional and psychological costs. We want you to know that we GREATLY appreciate all of the hard work and dedication you have put in to getting these stories out there on the screen and we can't thank you enough for being our champion. So.....go and make these movies! And know that you have the full support of all of us!!!

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Ermanatar
The Shire


Oct 3 2010, 2:51am

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3D [In reply to] Can't Post

Ohhh, and about this 3D business:

It really doesn't matter if they are shot in 3D. There will still be the 2D version out there, so all of you that are whining about the 3D, can put your fears to rest. This is just a way for the filmmakers (including Pete) to make some extra cash on these films. Do we NOT want MGM to pull in more cash? Don't you WANT to see a Bond film someday??? It's not like the 3D of yesterday anymore, where things are popping out of the screen and hitting you in the eyeball. The 3D of today pulls you in and makes you feel like you're in the film. I for one, actually WANT to experience that in the Hobbit. So stop whining and go watch the 2D version and be happy.

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 3:50am

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It makes some people sick.// [In reply to] Can't Post

I said earlier. I would like us all to be in one room at the premier.

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Kelvarhin
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Oct 3 2010, 4:06am

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*mods up* // [In reply to] Can't Post

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Doriath
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Oct 3 2010, 6:52am

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Not whining [In reply to] Can't Post

Attempting to explain why myself and many others are less than thrilled for a 3D version is not the same as merely complaining. However, after this post I'm going to try to give it up because it seems pointless. In the case of people like Kangi's wife it's the inability to view 3D films. Yes, I understand there will probably be a 2D version in theaters and of course on DVD but that's not the issue. When a film is shot for 3D it's with that in mind. Shots that may have been shot from a totally different perspective will be done differently in order to achieve the best result for the 3D aspect. "Ooo looky, the arrow intended for Smaug is comin' right at me"! Yeah, neat-o. I will always wish for 2 things. To see what GDT's version would have been before it got yanked away from us and to see a Hobbit not shot for the 14 year old crowd. I also hope to live long enough to see all of these films remade someday with another great director, cast, location and so on. Of course P.J. and company will remain our heroes for having been able to get these versions to the screen for us to enjoy!

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 7:06am

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I should let go of it too. [In reply to] Can't Post

At this point nothing said here is going to change anything. It will or won't be in 3-D and I will still go to it.
I am still skeptical and will be so until the two main rumors are confirmed. I would bet the farm on Peter as director but 3-D is a different story. GDT said that Peter was against it (No I don't have the reference and it may have been an inference) so I believe that there would have to be some heavy arm twisting or some deal worked out to change the films' course. Then again it could be shot as planned and Weta could do an ultra high end conversion. This would feed Weta and let Peter shoot his movie. What ever. This is the last hurrah.

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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 7:15am

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oh yeah, true [In reply to] Can't Post

they are still kinda just rumors

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 7:18am

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Yah rumors without any other sources confirming (as far as I have seen).// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Ermanatar
The Shire


Oct 3 2010, 8:49am

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3D isn't what it used to be [In reply to] Can't Post

When was the last time you went to see a 3D movie? It's not like it was back in the day when arrows were flying at your head, as you so eloquently put it. I have yet to see a shot that was set up specifically for 3D like what you're describing. At least not recently. Maybe back when Spy Kids 3D came out, but not since Avatar. It's not about distractions anymore. Nothing about the 3D experience took me out of the film when I saw Avatar in the theater. It's about pulling you in to the world, not constantly taking you out as 3D movies in the past have done. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it. ;)

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 9:06am

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Oct 3 2010, 9:27am

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It's go great to be back to the 3D discussions again... [In reply to] Can't Post

we've been down in MGM and greenlight and union Hades for so long.

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Peredhil lover
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Oct 3 2010, 1:31pm

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Great! [In reply to] Can't Post

Though PJ initially didn't want to do it, with the departure of GdT it's probably a good solution. I had been wondering how a new director would deal with having to get on now after so much work of pre-production has already been done; he would be quite limited in doing his own thing, I imagine. So, if that is true, I'm a happy girl.

Not too happy about the 3D bit, however. My few experiences with that were horrible - vertigo and nausea, even with a 30-minute-film. Not sure I could even sit through a whole 3-hour-film.



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Alassëa Eruvande
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Oct 3 2010, 2:02pm

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a tree hugger thing. I cropped that stuff out. But it's also an homage to my previous footer of my baby looking at a spot of light on the floor with the same quote from The Sil.


So think greenlight, Sir Dennis! Laugh



And suddenly the Tornadoes saw afar off a greenlight, as it were a cloud with a living heart of flame;
and they knew that this was no vision only, but that PJ had made a new thing: The Hobbit, the Film that Is.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 3 2010, 2:43pm

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That's rude [In reply to] Can't Post

Ermanatar clearly stated he had seen Avatar. What's the point of asking - with no further comment - whether he did so? Moreover, my experience of watching it in 3D was the same as his - pulling you in to the world, not constantly taking you out as 3D movies in the past have done. He even made it quite clear that it was only his opinion. You are certainly entitled to a different opinion, but it's not necessary to be insulting in expressing it.

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dormouse
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Oct 3 2010, 3:34pm

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It is, and I'm starting to get twitchy.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been searching the news pages over the weekend and there's plenty of hopeful reports, but they all seem to be feeding off the original 'any day now' ones from the LA Times and the New York Times. The union business is still rumbling away in the background, though - look at this:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/hobbit-battle-a-threat-to-film-talks/story-e6frg996-1225933544323


I want the good news to come true, but I do hope we're not all dancing round the Party Tree too soon...

*Anxiously crosses fingers and goes back to holding breath*


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 3 2010, 5:04pm

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I dont think Kangi was rude. Maybe he missed reading that part [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Oiotári
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Oct 3 2010, 5:27pm

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well we haven't heard anything denying it either [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd think if PJ wasn't going to direct, he'd be pretty quick about putting down this rumor


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Oct 3 2010, 5:36pm

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agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

I never thought I'd be glad for these discussions to be back, but I am

It's nice to be discussing something, while not completely trivial, is much less critical than MGM, etc.


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macfalk
Valinor


Oct 3 2010, 5:38pm

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You're right Oiorari [In reply to] Can't Post

What's promising is that Jackson's spokeman declined to comment, I think he would have said "no" if that was not the case - like he did some months ago where he said that it was not possible. I have hope.


Doriath
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Oct 3 2010, 5:54pm

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Let's say we get the green soon [In reply to] Can't Post

what happens between now and January? I'm guessing mainly casting and the Weta workshop buzzing right along? Will be nice to start getting into the fun of it again after all this hardship.

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Flagg
Tol Eressea

Oct 3 2010, 6:13pm

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It will be chaos [In reply to] Can't Post

It will be a fun and chaotic rollercoaster of casting rumours and speculation. There will be angst aplenty. While I'm hoping Martin Freeman gets the lead role, I would also like Doug Jones and Ron Perlman to appear (probably as the Goblin-King and Beorn). Anything that makes this version of The Hobbit closer to del Toro's unrealised vision is a plus in my book.


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 6:34pm

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I vote for GDT in a cameo! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hmmm...but what could it be? Maybe somewhere in the end battle or a resident of Laketown? ;)

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 6:39pm

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"I have yet to see a shot that was set up specifically for 3D" [In reply to] Can't Post

The entire movie was composed around the 3-D effect. It is not the only thing going on but it is always conscientiously there. There were not a lot of Jump-out-at-you effects but the little floaty seed things stick in my mind. I saw the digital effects as truly superior in the movie. The actual 3-D effect works nearly the same as it did in1968 though it is a great deal less blurry. However the restraint shown by the film makers was remarkable and accounts for a lot of positive response to the movie. My biggest problem with the techniques used by the makers of Avatar was not 3-D but the digital creation and alteration of everything on the screen. This helped to keep the totally CGI sequences from clashing with live action shots but it did it at the expense of reality. A vague hint of Beowolf, 300 and yes Schrek tinged the film. This is a matter of taste. And Avatar was a good story to showcase the state of the digital 3-D arts and it was done masterfully but in regards to filming (or should I say shooting and compositing) the two Hobbit movies using the same approach will not necessarily ruin the tale. It will completely detach these two films from the three that preceded. It will never be a five movie set.

I have said enough about the problems 3-D causes a good percentage of viewers and it would be nice if they have theaters for the 3-D challenged. It is not nice that theater operators set a premium on the ticket prices for 3-D films.

Now...

Kangi Ska

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Flagg
Tol Eressea

Oct 3 2010, 6:43pm

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He was going to play a creature [In reply to] Can't Post

Guillermo was going to play a creature in prosthetics who said a couple of lines, then got killed. He planned to sculpt the prosthetics himself. My guess is a goblin at the Battle of Five Armies. And yes, I hope it happens, too.


Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 6:44pm

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Guillermo [In reply to] Can't Post

was born to be the Great Goblin. But they will have to use a lot of prostheses to cover up his cuddly self. (And that was not a fat slam as I am also gravitationally challenged.)EvilEvil

Kangi Ska

The Hobbit is almost here.

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Doriath
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Oct 3 2010, 7:05pm

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can't help but feel [In reply to] Can't Post

like we're going to see a headline we've all been waiting for either today or tomorrow. Now I have to go to work and be away from the computer. Sigh. At least it's great pay on Sunday. Thanks union! :)

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Oct 3 2010, 7:10pm

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I know [In reply to] Can't Post

I keep refreshing the front page regularly hoping to see a green-light announcement

*clicks refresh button*Cool


The wide world is all about you:
you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out

You can only come to the morning through the shadows


Mithrandír
Lorien


Oct 3 2010, 8:14pm

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HIIIIIIHAAAAA!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's basically my only emotion right now :)

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