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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
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I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. //
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King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.
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Pioneer
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Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
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I was treated well & paid heaps for overtime in Narnia. 
Edit - just heard that there's some big meeting in Wellington tonight.
Nick Frost for Bombur
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
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Big scary stuff to panic the herd.//
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Kangi Ska
Make the Hobbit Happen Now!
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weaver
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Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
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Yahoo news has put it on their homepage...
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I spotted this story on the yahoo home page, but it comes and goes as a featured story there..but since it's up now, I thought I'd link it here...
Yahoo story
On the home page, they used the shot of Frodo about to disappear in the Prancing Pony -- (hmm...maybe that explains what happens to the story?) Well, it was kind of nice to see him there -- on and off --even if the article was depressing!
Hope this link works, Altaira!
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Lark
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Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
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I really do think this will all get sorted out, and it is just another bump in the road. I feel bad I may have come off short before, I just get worked up about stuff I care about!! I never post, I just felt like some people were only seeing from PJ's point of view, and I just wanted to shed a light on another perspective that's all.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
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Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies?
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"It's also worth noting that the weakest scenes in the "Lord of the Rings" movies take place in the shire where the hobbits live; basing two whole movies on just hobbit-land would seem far from the financial slam-dunk that the previous three movies were."
KS shakes his head. What a load of bunk.
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
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All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. /
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
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I found your posts here touching in their honesty and earnestness. I believe it will get sorted out as well. As others have observed, in a sense, that there is a row at all likely means the production is close to springing to life.
Take care...
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
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I dearly wish I could comment on the article
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Because it would be fun to kick sand in this stooge's eyes. 
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
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My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!!
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Send this poor soul a map (maybe that new interactive one . . .).
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
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I recommend a clue-by-four to the head. Repeat application as needed.
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Bound
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Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
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Offical response from the Studio
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It's gets worse..
New Line, Warner Bros. Pictures and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures are concerned by the recent allegations of unfair treatment of actors in New Zealand and instructions from the performers' guilds to their membership to withhold services from the producers of "The Hobbit" in New Zealand. We are proud to have good relations with all of those performers' guilds and value their contribution to the motion pictures produced in their respective jurisdictions throughout the world. But we believe that in this case the allegations are baseless and unfair to Peter Jackson and his team in Wellington who have been tireless supporters of the New Zealand motion picture community.
To classify the production as "non-union" is inaccurate. The cast and crew are being engaged under collective bargaining agreements where applicable and we are mindful of the rights of those individuals pursuant to those agreements. And while we have previously worked with MEAA, an Australian union now seeking to represent actors in New Zealand, the fact remains that there cannot be any collective bargaining with MEAA on this New Zealand production, for to do so would expose the production to liability and sanctions under New Zealand law. This legal prohibition has been explained to MEAA. We are disappointed that MEAA has nonetheless continued to pursue this course of action.
Motion picture production requires the certainty that a production can reasonably proceed without disruption and it is our general policy to avoid filming in locations where there is potential for work force uncertainty or other forms of instability. As such, we are exploring all alternative options in order to protect our business interests.
Read more: Studios Respond to Unions About The Hobbit - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/...=70190#ixzz10oTPnkle
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grammaboodawg
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Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
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(as well as Andy Serkis) that they could expect the same(ish) contracts that they signed for LotR. It's their Unions that are saying this as part of their process. I think each of them have the ability to work whatever job they want. I think McKellen, especially, has a fierce bond with Jackson and this project... so I'd like to see them hold him back.
 
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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merlwynd
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Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
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Who put the fire cracker in the bee hive! Things are a jumping now peeps! Hang on to your hats!
MERLWYND
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Silmaril
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Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
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puhhh... this is a serious conflict!!
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the whole situation seems to get worse and worse...just when i thought that everything falls in the right place. i cannot believe it.
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Pipe Dream
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Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
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Beginning on May 1, 2002, SAG expanded its protections globally to better serve the needs of members in this rapidly changing, global entertainment economy and to ensure that the protections of the Guild follow our performers wherever they may work. What will happen to people who violate Global Rule One?
Screen Actors Guild’s purpose in enforcing Global Rule One is to educate members that a union contract is mandatory if SAG is to be able to continue to fully protect them into the future. Members who violate Rule One could be required to appear before a Trial Board conducted by a group of their peers. A Trial Board has the authority to Discipline to impose fines, suspend, or expel a member from the union.
I was curious about what would happen to SAG actors if they went to NZ to work anyway and found this on their web site. Who's going to risk violating that? This isn't going to go away any time soon and I'm sure all of the other guilds/unions are going to have similar consequences.
Pre-Pre-production goes ever on and on...
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sphdle1
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Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
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Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now...
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It looks like the Hobbit 'may' possibly be filmed in Europe based on that statement.
MEAA are doing this for the wrong reasons and the wrong timing (just prior to a green light to pull this stunt), using The Hobbit and putting actors jobs in NZ in jeopardy, as well as, at the expense of the fans and everyone who wants to see this movie made or is involved in the making of it. Jackson has had enough delays...this just puts it over the edge.
Maybe unions have their place to protect workers, but this is not protecting workers...they have a different, seemly more power hungry hidden agenda, and are exploiting The Hobbit to do so.
I hope MGM, production companies, and lawyers can quickly address this, and that MEAA will back down.
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
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Ian McKellan, Cate Blanchett, or any other big name - celebrities operate under a different sphere of reality sometimes.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
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Studios answer ti big scary stuff.
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As I said earlier...a bunch of international labor lawyers are going to make a lot of money.
Kangi Ska
Make the Hobbit Happen Now!
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
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Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk
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A quick google scan puts him in several places includung Twitter (Sorry I do not tweet twits) I would like to point out his ignorance to him and to Yahoo (I do business with them).
Kangi Ska
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
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Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico
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Both are saying it's illegal to bargain with the union and that they'll go to Europe to film if they have to.
And they will folks. This film will make too much money not to be made - so if they have to make it somewhere else they will.
So who's really going to get hurt here? The New Zealand little guy.
Australia you should have resolved this years ago with the New Zealand government.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.
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Elladan
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Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
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It would appear my response wasnt posted.
I was simply observing that a model maker would be under the employ of Weta workshop and so would be assigned to what ever film was required rather than employed specifically for any given project. As opposed to an actor who would be hired for the duration of a given project. As such it is easy to see a difference between the 2 cases.
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