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Who will helm 'The Hobbit'?
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maut
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 6:37am

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I would like to see the movie with whatever directoor helming it actually.
I would prefer Cuaron or of course PJ- IMO the best choice for TH movie.
My only wish is just no Raimi. He is not the right man for the project at all.

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Vangalad
Lorien


Jun 2 2010, 8:00am

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I wouldn't choose Raimi either. [In reply to] Can't Post

From the names mentioned above, if PJ does not step in ,then Cuaron seems to be the most qualified.


Elven
Valinor


Jun 2 2010, 11:50am

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What happened to the female Directors on the list? ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

But Im putting my hat in the ring for Fran.
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Alex Maglor
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Jun 2 2010, 12:05pm

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Geoff Murphy? [In reply to] Can't Post

And Geoff Murphy?



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Eruthurin
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 12:51pm

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PJ or Cuarón, my options.... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 1:02pm

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Another Name [In reply to] Can't Post

Ang Lee: remember Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

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dormouse
Half-elven

Jun 2 2010, 1:24pm

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Another woman... [In reply to] Can't Post

... the Polish director Agnieszka Holland made a beautiful film of 'The Secret Garden'.

But seriously, while it's fun playing 'name the director' I'm with you on thinking Fran, alone or co-directing with PJ. I can't see how anyone can come in from outside at this stage and on the positive side, we know Fran is committed to these films, has lived with them for years and has already done some good work on the previous films - I'd love to see her take on 'The Hobbit'.


Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Jun 2 2010, 5:26pm

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Gothmog - better than some [In reply to] Can't Post

I actually thought that Gothmog at least had a smidgeon of personality, unlike the awfully generic and uninspiring Lurtz design/character (or really, the Uruks in general...).


Elwen
Lorien


Jun 2 2010, 5:42pm

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I totally agree. [In reply to] Can't Post

Cuaron would be an excellent choice I think. While I enjoyed the PJ films there were a lot of times that I was frustrated by his vision and treatment of the world, characters, and story. (And still am, in fact.)

I like the idea of a fresh person in the director's chair as well. After all, it has done good things for the Harry Potter series. (and
Cuaron was one of those good things...although some of his successors have been less impressive.)


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centenaryman
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Jun 2 2010, 5:48pm

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Which director do you trust ? [In reply to] Can't Post

Firstly, I'm very disappointed that Del Toro has moved away from the project as I personally think he would have been great. His eye for detail and his handling of effects and action is really first class. Having said that I don't blame him for leaving the project, if MGM are dragging their heels over finance.
So who takes over, well I don't think we're going to see these films in the time frame initially planned mainly because of the financial position. Asking for a rumoured $250 million is a big ask for a studio in trouble and this project may get put on the back burner for many years. If not then first and foremost it's got to be Peter Jackson, I can't believe that any Tolkien fan wouldn't want him above anyone else. Understanding and loving the source material is absolutely imperative and hiring some hack Hollywood director would be a disaster. If Jackson wasn't going to do it then the big question is, Do you want a Hobbit film? or Do you want a faithful and respectful Hobbit film?. For me it's Peter Jackson.


thesithempire
Rivendell

Jun 2 2010, 6:01pm

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Gothmog's "personality" [In reply to] Can't Post

Jar Jar had a smidgen of personality too. Doesn't mean I want him in a movie. PJ's "Gothmog" is fine for a cartoon, not the conclusion to the greatest epic literary work of the century. Same with the idiotic King of the Dead, guffawing like some stupid Scooby Doo villain. Ugh, don't get me started.

As regards Lurtz, he's frightening because he's so primal; he rarely says anything, and doesn't need to. His ferocity and viciousness are all expressed in his eyes and on his face. And what a face! He's a creature of nightmare. He gets impaled by Aragorn's sword and still manages to be terrifying! I think it was a wise choice on PJ/Fran/Phillepa's part to have Boromir taken down, not just by mere orcs, but by a formidable opponent. Fellowship (EE), wholly unlike ROTK, was a well thought out, smartly written film that honored Tolkien. ROTK was a big Hollywood-style mess bereft of logic, genuine pathos and mood that jettisonned Tolkien for bombast and spectacle. And the writing was on the wall with TTT. Such a shame. FOTR EE held such promise for a truly worthy adaptation of the second and third book (not that it was perfect either, e.g., Frodo being emasculated at every turn, Frodo's constant fake-out deaths, and in slo-mo no less, Gandalf's fall which makes no sense since -- unlike the book -- the whip wasn't attached to his leg).

Anyway, getting back on topic, that's some of the reasons I don't want Jackson directing. His vision (as revealed in TTT and ROTK) is wholly incompatible with Tolkien's.


MrCere
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Jun 2 2010, 7:07pm

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A word about Peter Jackson [In reply to] Can't Post

If Jackson wanted to direct the films, he would have announced himself as director when Guillermo del Toro stepped aside.

I firmly believe there is only the smallest chance he wants to do these films and even then, if he does them because there is no other choice, it hardly seems the ideal way to show up for work each day for three years. That isn't the director I want.

And this is old material but I will rehash it anyway. Few thought Peter Jackson was a good choice to direct "The Lord of The Rings" back in the day. Would a studio really trust the man behind "Dead Alive," or "Meet the Feebles"?

Was this guy with the independent "Heavenly Creatures," really the guy to tackle the epic "Lord of the Rings"? Few thought so.

I will be shocked, almost to death, if PJ directs these films.

I do think when they negotiate with the new director, they will want to know his take on the design work already done and I suspect part of the choice they make will be how that person sees two years worth of stuff. I doubt they will bring somebody aboard who doesn't want to use a lot of the leg work that has been done.

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Doriath
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 7:09pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

No Raimi. Just......No

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Doriath
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 7:27pm

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Actually... [In reply to] Can't Post

It's kinda too bad GDT or Cuaron didn't do LOTR as it is darker and PJ on the Hobbit as it's a tad more on the lighter side as Tolkien wrote it for young children. Hmmm....it's been long enough, could we maybe just start over and go with that plan? :Duck:

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Ataahua
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Jun 2 2010, 7:43pm

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May I suggest ... Zack Snyder? [In reply to] Can't Post

He's the director of 300. Last night I was watching the appendices and was struck by how, when he is passionate about a story, he is focused on bringing the images and story of the source material onto film, and doing it brilliantly.

With The Hobbit already storyboarded by Guillermo, PJ, Fran and Philippa, Snyder would be able to not so much translate that to screen, but *create* that storyboard on the screen.

I think he's a solid possible.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 7:47pm

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Interesting Idea.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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xy
Rohan

Jun 2 2010, 8:03pm

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Peter Jackson is the obvious choice [In reply to] Can't Post

1) he knows the script inside out, and will likely go along with Del Toro's plan - a new director may want to re-write the script

2) let the man who brought LOTR on the screen - for better or worse - finish the story. The two books had the same author, why not have the movies with same director ?

3) What new director will commit for a unidentified amount of time, with the delays, MGM isues, and now original director leaving the movie ?


Doriath
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 8:14pm

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one possible problem [In reply to] Can't Post

As far as PJ goes. He may be too tied up with projects he has already signed contracts with.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 8:14pm

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How about Ron Howard avery good director with a broad range of experience.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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xy
Rohan

Jun 2 2010, 8:17pm

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Is he not free to get out of those projects, just like Del Toro left The Hobbit ?


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 8:28pm

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zer05um
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Jun 2 2010, 8:34pm

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Has anybody considered... [In reply to] Can't Post

Tarsem Singh? His track record is pretty limited, but anybody who has seen "The Fall" will be able to tell you that he can handle fantastical imagery like nobody else.


Twit
Lorien

Jun 2 2010, 8:44pm

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Oooh yes, [In reply to] Can't Post

I was just trying to think who directed that film and was just off to find the dvd to find out when I read your post- so thanks. That or the person who did the Born of Hope film, Evil


Doriath
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 8:49pm

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Dunno [In reply to] Can't Post

Not really sure of all the legalities


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 9:48pm

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Not "Sense and Sensibility"? [In reply to] Can't Post


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Ang Lee: remember Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Or Eat Drink Man Woman?

The Hobbit is as much, or more, a comedy as it is an epic adventure.

Unfortunately, Lee also has a tendency to bombast and angst: see The Ice Storm and Hulk.

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