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PJ 'may direct The Hobbit'
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dormouse
Half-elven

Jun 1 2010, 11:32am

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I've no idea how likely it is to happen, but I think the suggestion of Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh co-directing is a brilliant one, not in a 'best-of-a-bad-job' sense but as a real, positive choice.


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Jun 1 2010, 2:40pm

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your last comment is so true [In reply to] Can't Post

and I definitely do wonder if that is what PJ is thinking


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Patty
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Jun 1 2010, 4:04pm

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Excellent, Kyriel. And more appropriate. [In reply to] Can't Post

I sometimes think his reluctance to do The Hobbit stems from an insecurity that he wouldn't come up to the high standard he achieved with LotR. I truly hope that's not true (of course I base it on no knowledge at all--I don't know him, and maybe he wouldn't have that thought) and that he would be comfortable and happy directing it. It's hard to live anywhere but in the moment, however these films, combined with LotR will live forever in a very positive way. I hope he decides he wants to complete the journey.

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PettyMim
Rivendell


Jun 1 2010, 4:15pm

Post #29 of 65 (558 views)
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If PJ does step in then this project may actually progress but... [In reply to] Can't Post

My fear is that a new director would take considerable time to settle into the project and would analyse the history of the project from day one onwards, filtering through everything with a fine-tooth comb. Realistically he/she would probably want take ownership of the role and change things which GDT has already sorted out over the last 2 years and maybe even take tings in a new direction! Therefore good luck to Sir Jackson on finding a replacement that is as capable as GDT and hopefully doesn't have a big enough ego to cause even more delays (James Cameron definately out then!) I really want to see TH part 1 before Hellboy 4 is released!!!!!


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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Jun 1 2010, 5:03pm

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My fear as well... [In reply to] Can't Post

Who ever steps in will make the project their own. That could mean starting from stratch more or less. Unless PJ saves the day. At least they will most likely shoot with multiple units now. Possibly saving time.


Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Jun 1 2010, 5:31pm

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I really hope he doesn't [In reply to] Can't Post

No disrespect to PJ, but we really need to see a new vision of Middle Earth. PJ has given us nine hours and more of how he interprets this world and these stories - and it tends to lean heavily towards melodrama and mawkishness (though there are glimpses of truly powerful beauty).

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PettyMim
Rivendell


Jun 1 2010, 5:50pm

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3D or not 3D That is the question [In reply to] Can't Post

Indeed, and will the replacement be for or against 3D? From what GDT had said regarding a 3D Hobbit I got the feeling he wasn't keen (nor PJ for that matter)- but I would be willing to bet that the studio bosses would prefer it. Now that GDT is out of the picture (no pun intended) I would not be at all surprised to see another wave of pressure to reshape the movie for 3D - and the selection of a director that can / will facilitate that. In other words even more potential for delays. I'm finding optimism hard to come by these days!


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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 1 2010, 6:20pm

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That matter was settled [In reply to] Can't Post

Short of rewriting script, redoing animatics and throwing away 2 years of preproduction, it will not happen.

They may convert but it will be shot on film.

Kangi Ska

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 1 2010, 6:29pm

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I do not know [In reply to] Can't Post

but Peter would probably get upset if you moved in.Angelic

Kangi Ska

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Goldberry of the river
Lorien


Jun 1 2010, 6:46pm

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Wow, what huge news to return to! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was without the internet for ten days and this is the story that hit me when I logged on to FB! What a shock. I was sooo excited when I heard GDT was going to direct. I thought his departure may throw the whole project into uncertainty but now upon hearing Sir PJ may direct instead...well it would be a dream come true. I'm trying not to get excited because it seems very up-in-the-air at the moment.

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Mark Sommer
Rivendell


Jun 1 2010, 9:22pm

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How about Fran Walsh? [In reply to] Can't Post

PJ has the perfect director already in NZ. His wife Fran was a Second Unit Director for The Return of the King, and did a splendid job. For more on this idea, see the link below:

Jackson willing to direct Hobbit, but what about Fran Walsh?

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CINE
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Jun 1 2010, 10:01pm

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RE: Fran Walsh [In reply to] Can't Post

YES!

Do yourselves a favor, everyone, and go listen to the Director's/Writing Team commentaries on the LOTR Extended Editions. Fran Walsh is the brains of the outfit (no disrespect to her other half -- Pete Cool).

Walsh would be a visionary choice in this reporter's humble opinion.


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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Jun 2 2010, 12:36am

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Fran would be wonderful [In reply to] Can't Post

as a director for The Hobbit. Each of her scenes in LotR are wonderful. There were a LOT of people who had their hands in directing. They could also call in some of the other LotR-established directors (not including technical/digital directors):


John Mahaffie
Geoff Murphy
Guy Norris
Rick Porras
Barrie Osborne
BIG TIME Fran Walsh

and bring in Andrew Lesnie.

Peter wouldn't be tied to this exclusively. There are so many others from the LotR crews that know how to do this. They've already fought most of the big battles on HOW to do Middle-earth; so the train may not be rumbling up behind them as they lay down the tracks this time :)

PLUS GdT has already done so much work on this. His creativity and planning with them certainly must have addressed a lot of the work that needs to be done.

Peter's a master of adapting to challenges of every magnitude. I trust him to do the right thing here... but I really hope it's to turn to Fran's talent and artistic eye.


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weaver
Half-elven

Jun 2 2010, 1:13am

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Way back when.... [In reply to] Can't Post

...before there was GDT and we were speculating, a few of us here were in the Fran Walsh camp..I would love to see what she could do with the Hobbit, or another film, if she were put in the director's chair.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Jun 2 2010, 1:28am

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There is a big difference [In reply to] Can't Post

between directing a few scenes as a second-unit director, and being in charge of the whole project. I'm not saying I don't think that Fran could do it, but I'm not sure that she would even be interested in doing it. Nothing that I have seen suggests that she has ever indicated a desire to direct any film, let alone The Hobbit.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 1:42am

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This is exactly what I was thinking. [In reply to] Can't Post

Also there is the question of the studios handing the Ginormous bag of cash over to a director who never shot a whole movie.

This is not saying she could not do it. I do not know and I think that the only person likely to know would be Peter.

Kangi Ska

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weaver
Half-elven

Jun 2 2010, 2:00am

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it was more wishful thinking than anything else... [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with you actually...but I really would love to see her come out of the shadows more, though I know she prefers it there.

I liked her work on the Smeagol/Deagol scene, though, and that kind of storybook scene turned into something deeper/bigger, with some action thrown in, seemed right to me for the Hobbit. But whether or not she could or wants to do it is of course another question.

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Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Jun 2 2010, 2:15am

Post #43 of 65 (406 views)
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I'm with you on the wishful thinking [In reply to] Can't Post

but you never know, stranger things have happened

plus she seems to fit the "already involved in the project, so unlikely to tear everything up" bill

I would very much like to see her as director


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duats
Grey Havens

Jun 2 2010, 2:23am

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My two cents [In reply to] Can't Post

And quite honestly, Jackson's latest comments rub me the wrong way. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad to see he is fully committed to ensuring that these films are the best they can be. But stepping in "to protect WB's assets" doesn't make me feel any less skeptical. I'd want Jackson to direct the films because he WANTS to, not because he HAS to.


Gandalf'sMother
Rohan

Jun 2 2010, 5:19am

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Such a collaboration [In reply to] Can't Post

Would start with an eye towards producing a horse, but would most surely produce a camel...


Elven
Valinor


Jun 2 2010, 8:24am

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No .... [In reply to] Can't Post

They need to produce a Dragon Cool

Peter and Fran have worked together always - they are the right and left hands of a great collaboration - I trust them.


PettyMim
Rivendell


Jun 2 2010, 2:25pm

Post #47 of 65 (378 views)
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Settled? like a March 2010 start and having GDT as director? [In reply to] Can't Post

The project is now wide open in my opinion while a new Director is found and settles in. The studio are bound to use this delay to try and arrange for the film to be shot in 3D - for them it is all about money and their reality will be that a 3D Hobbit = more cash than 2D Hobbit.


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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 4:03pm

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The matter was settled.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

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R11
Lorien

Jun 2 2010, 5:57pm

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By whom? [In reply to] Can't Post


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All that was said was that up to this point everything had proceeded assuming 2D production. It may well turn out that it is not done in 3D but until the studio gives a green light it means they have not agreed to anything...

What I find quite curious is what seems like an irrational bias against The Hobbit movies being done in 3D by a segment of people. Personally I will prefer being able to watch them in standard 2D, but I see no reason that they shouldn't be made in 3D to accommodate the people that would prefer them that way. I believe the bias must arise from a feeling that the movies would somehow be tainted for standard 2D viewers if in fact they were shot for 3D.

Just because a lot of the 3D fare so far has been done to overemphasize the medium does not mean it necessarily has to be that way. Avatar is a prime example of the opposite approach, shot in such a way to allow the effect to be organic, natural, seamless and unobtrusive . I watched Avatar in 3D in the theater and more recently on a large panel via Blu-ray at home, and the movie looked/felt completely natural in the standard 2D format. And to my extremely critical eyes, from a picture quality standpoint it exhibited top of the line clarity, color etc.

The argument for 3D conversion instead presents additional issues in that it arguably produces subpar 3D results. I just don't understand the apparent fear it would somehow ruin the films, given a director who does not abuse the capability/effect.



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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jun 2 2010, 7:53pm

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Just be patient. [In reply to] Can't Post

At this point no amount of advocacy will bring about any change. 3-D (if there is any prospect of its use) is in the back seat until the director is settled.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.




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