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A summary of 'The Hobbit' casting discussion so far

MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 10:08am

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"The Hobbit," has to be cast but that just leaves more time for fans to speculate, guess and suggest about the casting of the two-films planned by producer Peter Jackson and director Guillermo del Toro.

There are a few givens. According to the decision makers, as many of the main characters that appear in both Jackson's LOTR trilogy and GDT's Hobbit films will be cast using existing actors from those roles as possible. And while media outlets trying to create news about the film have asked any actor they can find if they will appear, the list of sure crossovers are relatively small.
Ian Holm, approaching 80 years old, has stated that he is too old to play Bilbo because of the physical demands of the role and the required relocation to New Zealand. So the search for the main character is on. Most readers will be familiar with characters like Gandalf that belong to actors such as Ian McKellen so they will not be rehashed here because there is no debate about who will fill the role.


Other roles are open to speculation such as Aragorn's role from the LOTR appendices that might be used to flesh out parts of the two-movie set planned for December 2011 and 2012.

While a few names have likely been missed here and there, we present the suggestions from TheOneRing.net's message boards. Check back soon on our "The Pollantir" section of our message boards for some unscientific voting. Please forgive any errors, there was a lot of information to be dealt with here.


Balin
Brian Blessed
Kenneth Branagh
Brian Cox
Neil Flyn
Dominic Purcell
Angus Macfadyen

Bard

Richard Armitage
Christian Bale
Gerard Butler
Jim Caviezel
Daniel Craig
Henry Iain Cusick
SirDennisC (message boards)
Jack Davenport
Johnny Depp
Michael Fassbender
Ralph Fiennes
Ioan Gruffudd
Martin Henderson
Hugh Jackman
Doug Jones
Thomas Kretschmann
Daniel Day Lewis
David O’Hara
Gary Oldman
Clive Owen
Adrian Pasdar
Guy Pearce
James Purefoy
Dominic Purcell
Toby Stephens

Beorn

Brian Blessed
Lawrence Fishburne
Nick Frost
Christopher Guest
Gary Lewis
Liam Neeson
Ron Perlman
Pete Postlethwaite
Geoffrey Rush
Guy Sprung
Ray Stevenson

Bert
(troll)
Tim McInnerny
Ray Winstone

Bifur

Alfred Molina
Hugh Laurie

Bilbo Baggins

Liam Aiken
Hugh Bonneville
Martin Freeman
Ryan Gosling
Tom Hollander
Bob Hoskins
Michael Hurst
Eddie Izzard
Toby Jones
Shia Lebouef
William H. Macy
Tobey Maguire
James McAvoy
Sam Neil
Sean Pertwee
Reece Shearsmith
Michael Sheen
David Tennant

Bofur

Mark Hamill

Bombur

Jack Black
Jorge Garcia
Paul Giamatti
Richard Griffiths
Jonah Hill
Oliver Platt

Dain

James Cosmo
Timothy Spall
Ray Winstone

Dori

Dara O’Briain
Tom Waits

Drogo

Robbie Coltraine

Dwalin

Brenden Gleeson

Dwarves (general)

Jack Black
Bill Baily
Robbie Coltraine
Brian Cox
Russell Crowe
Warwick Davis
Stephen Fry
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Derek Jacobi
Ken Jenkins
Angus Macfadyen
Alfred Molina
Ron Perlman
Jonathan Pryce
Geoffrey Rush
Timothy Spall
Ethan Suplee
David Tennant
Nick Frost

Gloin

Billy Connelly
John Rhys-Davies
Nicholas Lyndhurst

Goblin King / Great Goblin

Doug Jones
Tyler Mane
Ron Perlman

Kili

Kelsey Grammar
Simon Peg

Necromancer

James Woods

Nori

Phil Jupitus
Kevin McNally

Oin

Stephen Fry
Kevin McNally
David Jason

Ori

Alan Davies
Nathan Lane

Primula

Zooey Deschanel

Master / Lord of Laketown

Dustin Hoffman
Anthony Hopkins
Alan Rickman
Geoffrey Rush
Stanley Tucci

Radagast

Richard E Grant

Smaug (voice)

Clancy Brown
James Caan
George Clooney
Brian Cox
Marton Csokas
Tim Curry
Vin Diesel
Sam Elliott
Jonathan Freeman
Morgan Freeman
Bruno Ganz
Terry Gilliam
Mark Hamill
Djimon Hounsou
Anthony HopkinsJohn Hurt
Jeremy Irons
Jason Isaacs
Tommy Lee Jones
Ben Kingsley
Robert Lindsay
Meat Loaf
Ulrich Matthes
Alfred Molina
John Noble
Peter O’Toole
Edward James Elmos
Leslie Phillips
Wayne Pygram
Alan Rickman
Geoffrey Rush
Rodrigo Santoro
Andy Serkis
Martin Shaw
Stellan Skarsgard
Patrick Stewart
Kathleen Turner
Nichol Williamson
Michael Wincott

Spiders of Mirkwood

Cindy Lauper
Fran Drescher

Thorin Oakenshield

Brian Blessed
Jim Carter
Billy Connelly
Brian Cox
Kenneth Cranham
Brenden Gleeson
Alfred Molina
Ron Perlman
David Hyde Pierce
Geoffrey Rush
Patrick Stewart
Tom Wilkenson
Ray Winstone

Tom (troll)

Rowan Atkinson
Jason Statham

Thranduil

Richard Armitage
Paul Bettany
David Bowie
Timothy Dalton
James Duvall
Ralph Fiennes
William Fichtner
Luke Goss
Rhys Ifans
Jason Isaacs
Guy Pearce
Zachary Quinto
Patrick Stewart

William (troll)

Vinnie Jones

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(This post was edited by Altaira on Apr 13 2009, 5:13pm)


Peredhil lover
Valinor

Apr 13 2009, 11:19am

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It must have taken you forever to put that together! Thanks for that great piece of work! I've lost track of suggestions long ago.

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Elven
Valinor


Apr 13 2009, 11:44am

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That is a mighty list MrCere!
Thankyou so much!
WOW! What a line-up.

... umm, but where's Russell Crowe for Beorn or Master of Lake Town? (see year old footer below)
I see he has been relegated to the Dwarve section in the list Wink

I think we're also missing Brian Steele as one of the 3 Trolls or the Goblin King Wink

Yippeee - cant wait to see the real list!

Cheers MrCere
Elven x


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Russell Crowe for Beorn!!

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Earl
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Apr 13 2009, 12:48pm

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... just how did you find the time and patience to put that list together. There must be over a 100 links in there Shocked

Okay, so I was busy clicking links and getting all dreamy about the fact that one of these actors *might* actually be officially named one of these months, and then I reach SirD, and after a few moments of complete befuddlement, I'm jarred out of my dreamy state and find myself trying to rein my laughing self in Cool

I really need to be on the lookout for you sneaky little naughties here on TORn... never know when you guys will turn about EvilHeart

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Apr 13 2009, 12:54pm

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SirDennis was suggested for the role of Bard in this post

Oh and it's good to see you on facebook too Smile

*huggles*

Kel


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Earl
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Apr 13 2009, 1:05pm

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... to cast my vote for Sir Bard? Wink Thanks Kel, didn't see that thread before, I was rather overwhelmed by all the casting suggestions and I've been waiting for the official ones for a long time now. SirD looks so Bardy in that pic Tongue

*psst* I sent you a lil' giftie on FB Smile

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Kelvarhin
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Apr 13 2009, 1:12pm

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you could ask a nice mod to change it for you if you like Wink

He does doesn't he? WinkSmile

Really??! Oooo will have to head over and have a look! Thank you Cool

It's the time of night dear, hits us all eventually Wink

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almas_sparks
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Apr 13 2009, 1:20pm

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Great list but you omitted Rusty!


grammaboodawg
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Apr 13 2009, 2:25pm

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You REELy got me with this list! WOW!

I'll be back after going through this, but I just had to finish saying "WOW!" first...


"Wow!"



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Kangi Ska
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Apr 13 2009, 3:17pm

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See attached for my vote

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DiveTwin
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Apr 13 2009, 3:20pm

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Fantastic job! Thanks for doing that...

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Runk Snusgrop
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Apr 13 2009, 3:28pm

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Brian Blessed! Hell yes!

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Timdalf
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Apr 13 2009, 3:58pm

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First you need to correct the spelling of Nicol Williamson's name under Smaug... And he would be an excellent choice.
Please add to yoru list for Bilbo my vote for Paul Giamatti...


MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 5:11pm

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A note on missing names . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

I am not a moderator of the message boards and don't have "mod power" so I can change the front page news list but I can't change the one on the message boards.

Mods will need to discuss and determine if this particular list gets updated and if so, who will do the job. My ten minute window to edit is closed.

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MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 5:21pm

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I didn't check footers and must have missed him elsewhere. He is added to the front-page story, I am helpless to add him to the discussion on the message boards. Angelic

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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Apr 13 2009, 6:56pm

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Wow [In reply to] Can't Post

Great to read all those name.
Already spend a few minutes (maybe more) just looking. Thanks for putting all those together, must have taken you a while. I'm off speculating even more.


Timdalf
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Apr 14 2009, 12:02am

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OF COURSE! We should have thought of this before... There is only ONE, yes ONE possibility... And this explains his not taking the director's chair:

PETER JACKSON, himself!!! Cool Who else??

Timothy Fisher alias "Timdalf"

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Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.
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Uruk-Hai
The Shire


Apr 14 2009, 1:48am

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jim carter for any dwarf
martin freeman as bilbo


geoboy
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Apr 14 2009, 4:19am

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The only addition I would make would be for Donald Sutherland as Smaug. He did an orange juice commercial and after I heard it i had an uncontrollable compulsion to drink OJ. Oh yeah, and Martin Freeman as Bilbo is win.


Nickey08
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Apr 14 2009, 7:07am

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I'm guessing no one liked my idea for Richard Hammond as Bilbo...?
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Shagrat
Gondor

Apr 14 2009, 10:02am

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I think James Cosmo should be added for Thorin or Balin and Julian Sands added for Thranduil; but aside from that its a pretty comprehensive list at this stage.


Sunflower
Valinor

Apr 14 2009, 2:34pm

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MrCere, I hope this thread NEVER gets deleted--it should have a permanent sticky until filming begins--and then it should go into the storied TORN vaults, never to be forgotten!

There will be in ages to come, times when oft we may feel the desire to revisit this list, and muse upon the horrors of What Could Have Been. Was there a similar compilation list thread for LOTR before the cast was revealed?

SirDennisC--can't stop laughing!!!!


Sunflower
Valinor

Apr 14 2009, 2:56pm

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that until he was officially rejected for the role, there were more than a few fans who wanted Doug Jones to be Thranduil, and speculated about this for months. And not just on TORN. Smile


Darkstone
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Apr 14 2009, 4:27pm

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Bilbo: William H. Macy

Gandalf: Clint Eastwood

Thorin Oakenshield: Ben Kingsley

Balin: Scott Grimes

Bombur: Michael Cudlitz

Dwalin: Rick Gomez

Gloin: Ross McCall

Bifur: Robin Laing

Bofur: Nicolas Aaron

Dori: George Calil

Nori: Rene Moreno

Ori: Douglas Spain

Oin: Eion Bailey

Kili: Craig Heaney

Fili: Mark Huberman

The Trolls: Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Martin Short

The Great Goblin: David Bowie

Beorn: Liam Neeson

King Thranduil: Stellan Skarsgård

Bard the Bowman: Joseph Fiennes

Smaug: Margaret Avery

Lord of the Eagles: Sam Elliot

Bilbo's Eagle: Zoë Wanamaker

Roac son of Carc: John Hurt

Master of Laketown: Wallace Shawn

Dain: Simon Callow

Drogo: Alec Baldwin

Primula: Geena Davis

Radagast: Patrick Stewart

Necromancer: Jonathan Pryce

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The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”



grammaboodawg
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Apr 14 2009, 4:39pm

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Bob Hoskins (Who Framed Roger Rabbit); and Bill (William) Nighy. He played Davy Jones in the PotC films. He also played Sam in the BBC Radio adaptation with Ian Holm's Frodo. What a perfect round-about that would be :)



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sticklebat
Lorien

Apr 14 2009, 5:42pm

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Great list... [In reply to] Can't Post

...some great insight & speculation you've drummed up...(yeah, we're ALL bored)...thx for adding something interesting & worthwhile reading...quite refreshing. I would love to see Brian Blessed as Thorin...just as Phillipa Boyens said of John Rhys- Davies,"...if you want to explain to an audience about the culture of Dwarves, you cast (John)as the Dwarf and he'll TELL you, he'll SHOW you, he'll bring that culture to life for you..." The same, I think can be said of Brian Blessed...I think, he IS Thorin.
Just as a side note...I don't need to see Russell Crowe in this movie...sorry, ladies n laddies...aren't there enough talking thrushes & ravens already?


The Party Tree
Lorien


Apr 14 2009, 5:53pm

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No Colin Firth for Bilbo? I thought that was a pretty popular one...


Nickey08
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Apr 14 2009, 6:02pm

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What a fantastic and well-thought-out selection for Smaug!!!!! I'd have trouble choosing between any of those fantastic "pipes"!

It almost makes me wonder if poor old GDT should hold his own "Hobbit Idol" to try to find someone completely new that we've never heard or seen previously...Heart

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sticklebat
Lorien

Apr 14 2009, 7:02pm

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Thranduil... [In reply to] Can't Post

my personal favorite pick for Thranduil...Matthew Horne...surely everyone knows Thranduil is the father of Legolas...he even looks a bit like Orlando Bloom.
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sherlock
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Apr 14 2009, 7:17pm

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elvish looking!


sherlock
Gondor


Apr 14 2009, 7:18pm

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What happened to Ian McShane [In reply to] Can't Post

for the voice of Smaug? I thought for sure I'd read that suggestion here. That's my personal favorite right now.


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Apr 14 2009, 9:19pm

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has the "dark of hair and grim of face" look of Bard...and might be considered 'hot' enough by those who care about such things in casting.


Ermanatar
The Shire

Apr 15 2009, 7:13am

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GREAT LIST!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

This was great. I would like to see Donald Sutherland as Smaug, though. I think most of my choices landed on the list. We definitely need to keep this thread going until casting time. Just to see how close we came and how much GDT heard us.

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Ermanatar
The Shire


Apr 15 2009, 7:31am

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TOTALLY have to agree!!! Donald's voice has that air of confidence and power, truly! And yes, Martin Freeman simply IS Bilbo!!!

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hobbitgoddess
The Shire


Apr 16 2009, 2:21am

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People keep suggesting people to cast for Bilbo to old or to young. He's...what, 50 in the books. In the movies you can make a character younger and it will still be accepted. But a teenager (looking at the person who suggested Liem Aiken)! Yeah hell no. Yes Elijah was 18...ish I think when he played Frodo, but that worked because Frodo is a whiny character anyway. Bilbo is a overly mature, scared-y cat. People need to stop dreaming that Bilbo will be sexy teenager who they can use in fanfictoin and start sticking closer to the books.

We've got the pretty boys (James McAvoy, and Tobey Maquire) the if-you-wanna-be-like-the-animated-movie (Toby Jones) and the evil Bilbo's (Tom Hollander). Some suggestions are kind scary. I like the unknown people like Reece Sheersmith.

But I am generally biased anyway. Martin Freeman is my favorite of the candidates. David Tennant wouldn't be bad either.

And lastly, who suggested Liam Aiken? ( I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I would like to be able to enjoy this movie too)

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Ermanatar
The Shire


Apr 16 2009, 4:39am

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Bilbo: William H. Macy

Gandalf: Clint Eastwood

Thorin Oakenshield: Ben Kingsley

Balin: Scott Grimes

Bombur: Michael Cudlitz

Dwalin: Rick Gomez

Gloin: Ross McCall

Bifur: Robin Laing

Bofur: Nicolas Aaron

Dori: George Calil

Nori: Rene Moreno

Ori: Douglas Spain

Oin: Eion Bailey

Kili: Craig Heaney

Fili: Mark Huberman

The Trolls: Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Martin Short

The Great Goblin: David Bowie

Beorn: Liam Neeson

King Thranduil: Stellan Skarsgård

Bard the Bowman: Joseph Fiennes

Smaug: Margaret Avery

Lord of the Eagles: Sam Elliot

Bilbo's Eagle: Zoë Wanamaker

Roac son of Carc: John Hurt

Master of Laketown: Wallace Shawn

Dain: Simon Callow

Drogo: Alec Baldwin

Primula: Geena Davis

Radagast: Patrick Stewart

Necromancer: Jonathan Pryce


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Ermanatar
The Shire


Apr 16 2009, 4:50am

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Yes! I would TOTALLY have to agree with this! Some of the suggestions I've seen on here are simply balderdash. Bilbo is a HOBBIT, not some sexy hot teenage actor. Shia LeBeouf??? Liem Aiken??? Tobey Maguire??? C'MON PEOPLE!!! Bilbo isn't supposed to invoke dirty thoughts in the minds of young teenage girls folks.

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People keep suggesting people to cast for Bilbo to old or to young. He's...what, 50 in the books. In the movies you can make a character younger and it will still be accepted. But a teenager (looking at the person who suggested Liem Aiken)! Yeah hell no. Yes Elijah was 18...ish I think when he played Frodo, but that worked because Frodo is a whiny character anyway. Bilbo is a overly mature, scared-y cat. People need to stop dreaming that Bilbo will be sexy teenager who they can use in fanfictoin and start sticking closer to the books.

We've got the pretty boys (James McAvoy, and Tobey Maquire) the if-you-wanna-be-like-the-animated-movie (Toby Jones) and the evil Bilbo's (Tom Hollander). Some suggestions are kind scary. I like the unknown people like Reece Sheersmith.

But I am generally biased anyway. Martin Freeman is my favorite of the candidates. David Tennant wouldn't be bad either.

And lastly, who suggested Liam Aiken? ( I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I would like to be able to enjoy this movie too)


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Peredhil lover
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Apr 16 2009, 5:05am

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call Frodo's character 'whiny'. It didn't come through so well in the movies, because that part was changed to build up Arwen, but in the book he defied all of the Nine at the Ford of Bruinen, even though he was already injured and weakened. Considering how experienced warriors cringed when they heard only *one* Nazgul, that was just amazing. And even in the movies, he was never whiny.

I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.


sticklebat
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Apr 16 2009, 2:46pm

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Reece Shearsmith... [In reply to] Can't Post

Excellent comedic actor. He's brilliant in the British series 'The league Of Gentlemen'. If they decide to go younger for Bilbo, I could see him doing a great job...not too young, not too old...and not too pretty.
But I keep looking at Freeman and thinking..."THAT is the face of Bilbo..."
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Henoluin Elsilim
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Apr 16 2009, 8:37pm

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It must have taken you HOURS to put this all together! Thanks so much for doing it!
I wonder what the chances are of one of these people actually getting to play the roles they were picked for?
Again, thanks for putting this together!

~ Henoluin ~

Lord of the Rings

James McAvoy for Bilbo!


MrCere
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Apr 16 2009, 8:58pm

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It will be fun to look at this post-casting and see what happened.

We listed SO many people that somebody will surely be cast somewhere!

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Sunflower
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Apr 16 2009, 10:40pm

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And now that Mike Mignola has left for NZ (and presumably has arrived there by now), I dropped a note to Parker on DTF, asking him what body part of Mr. Mignola's he could twist in order to get him to cough up some Guillermo news soon. TongueSmile


almas_sparks
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Apr 16 2009, 10:46pm

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Beorn [In reply to] Can't Post

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Nazgul_Kidney
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Apr 16 2009, 11:42pm

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My thoughts [In reply to] Can't Post

I would like to see Abe Benrudi and John Goodmen in there as dwarves. I am also free, for a cool cameo just sent the plane tickets. Brendon Gleeson, Robbie Coltrane also sound good.

I could see that fellow from nixon frost takin over for Christopher Lee. Dont know his name he was in Dave too.

I wouldnt mind seeing John Cusack as Bard though I can see Bale doing well.

I like the idea of Sean Pertwee as Bilbo. Though i like the idea of him playing his dads version of the Doctor in a retro 60's/70's scifi big budget Dr. Who movie much more.


Gorfindel
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Apr 17 2009, 6:11pm

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John Hurt? i think he would make an excellent Balin. He has worked with GDT before and I think he could portray Balins relationship with Bilbo incredibly well.


mulubinba
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Apr 20 2009, 6:11am

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Great list & Bard casting (Armitage) [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks so much for this list!

As for the casting of Bard, it is great to see Richard Armitage listed as one of the suggestions. (Unfortunately the photos on his IMDb page are not comprehensive). Here is a screencap from his latest role:



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SirDennisC
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Apr 20 2009, 8:13pm

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to thank the academy that is!

I feel greatly honoured to be on the list as it were.

Still, my money remains on Thomas Kretschman.


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Arwen_Undomiel
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Apr 22 2009, 2:13am

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Bryan Blessed looks like a good Balin [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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mykonos
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Apr 22 2009, 5:40am

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yay Armitage [In reply to] Can't Post

Love it


In Reply To
Thanks so much for this list!

As for the casting of Bard, it is great to see Richard Armitage listed as one of the suggestions. (Unfortunately the photos on his IMDb page are not comprehensive). Here is a screencap from his latest role:



MrCere
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Apr 22 2009, 7:09am

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Your screen name certainly caught my eye. I have been to the beautiful island of Mykonos, is your name related to the place?

Be welcome and enjoy TORn.

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sticklebat
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Apr 22 2009, 3:54pm

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Blessed... [In reply to] Can't Post

...would make a much better Thorin, he's got this deep booming, commanding, authoritative way of speaking & acting...or even Beorn. Either role, he'd be awesome.Wink


Laitholiel_the_SeaElf
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Apr 22 2009, 8:57pm

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Look at you! Being all organized and stuff =) [In reply to] Can't Post

Seriously, thank you for this. It's especially useful for me since I haven't been here through the whole discussion. It is nice to get a quick summary of the ideas that have worked their way around the board.


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Apr 22 2009, 9:01pm

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I "second that emotion!" [In reply to] Can't Post

*Motown's 50th don't ya know.

No really it is great that the old thread was finally cut loose. This one is by far more readable and exciting.


Arwen_Undomiel
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Apr 23 2009, 1:38am

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flodwyns
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Apr 23 2009, 3:07pm

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Casting [In reply to] Can't Post

some fantastic suggestions here.......particularly Brian Blessed as Balin and Martin Freeman for Bilbo.

I'd like to add another name to the mix.....Lee Boardman for one of the dwarves....but as for Bard the Bowman, how much further does one need to look?



Richard Armitage of course!


Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Apr 23 2009, 6:57pm

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I guess I shall be forced [In reply to] Can't Post

to illustrate my point. ... Somewhat.

Rufus Sewell for Bard!


Mrs Bard
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Apr 30 2009, 11:49am

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Richard for Bard...Yes Yes Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with you totally Mulubinba...there can be NO OTHER choice! Richard Armitage was BORN to be a Tolkien hero!! He is a great actor and very versatile, and as the photos prove, his looks are perfect for the role!!







Destrier
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Apr 30 2009, 6:17pm

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Born to be Bard! [In reply to] Can't Post

You're so right, Mulubinba, Mrs Bard, Flodwyns and everyone else dying to see Richard Armitage as Bard - he'd be utterly perfect! He does grim and noble better than anyone...






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weathertop
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Apr 30 2009, 8:53pm

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everyone's talking this RA guy [In reply to] Can't Post

but too me the guy that i see in these photos is too young to be the beaten down, seeing ill-omens in everything, grim character from the books. too much like a young ranger for my tastes.


Destrier
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May 1 2009, 2:44pm

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Too young?? [In reply to] Can't Post

RA is not far off 40, weathertop - just the right age for a warrior in his prime. And (judging by his latest appearances on our TV screens) he does "grim and beaten-down" better than anyone I've seen.

But remember, though Bard is at first seen as a grim and beaten-down seer of ill omens, he soon proves to be much more than that. He is a far-seeing and inspiring leader of men, courageous and skilled in battle, noble in his dealings with the dwarves, forgiving and generous! No wonder his men proudly take the name of "Bardings" after he becomes King of Dale.



weathertop
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May 1 2009, 6:08pm

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photos [In reply to] Can't Post

posted here are all i have to go by. never seen him in 'action'. but if he's forty, he looks great. i wouldn't have put him past thirty.


LEGIONTX
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May 2 2009, 2:38am

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As much as a fan of the whole Tolkien world I am; I'm not much on keeping updated about things in the "real world", and had no idea The Hobbit was going to be made into a film. Fantastic!!!!! Something to look forward to for sureCool I spend most all of my computer time on a boxing forum and that's about it; so I'm glad I joined this site to get in touch with what's going on. Apologies if this is a somewhat rambling postEvil



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sticklebat
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May 2 2009, 10:35pm

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never knew... [In reply to] Can't Post

of the existence of Richard Armitage til I heard him mentioned here....not exactly who I saw playing the role, but I'm sure he'd do a fine job...I never imagined Bard as being very 'noble' looking...Armitage looks like he'd suit Thranduil the Elvenking even better. I really like the look of Kevin McKidd or Clive Owen...but Richard could work.

and LEGIONTX....your post was anything but rambling...very short & sweet actually...yup...December 2011, 2012, you'll see 'The Hobbit' on the big screen...very excited to see it, as are we all...welcome.


ponybarfly
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May 7 2009, 11:38pm

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Sylvester McCoy for Bilbo! [In reply to] Can't Post

In many of the stills from LOTR I've often thought Ian Holm as Bilbo bore a strong resemblance to the actor who played the seventh Doctor Who. The interesting thing is that throughout his time in that series he was at the bottom in my list of favourites in the role of everyone's fave time lord. That was until his part in the US tv movie starring Paul McGann in the role. This taught me that he was a perfectly good actor, but that it was the series (Doctor Who) that had somehow gone downhill at the time, and not Sylv.

Once made up as Bilbo, Ian Holm to me looks very similar to McCoy. I think Sylvester could carry it off with ease. He would certainly make a great hobbit anyway, but with his resemblence to Mr Holm, I think he'd be perfect.

Oh, and Brian Blessed was born to be in a Tolkien based film. He should be signed up immediately, and then they can decide what he plays when they're ready!. Any hobbit or better still, dwarf, would be a walk in the park to him. My wife is reading his autobiography and he grew up in my area of England. Yorkshire to be precise, and between Barnsley and Rotherham to be even more precise. My home town of Hoyland is a stone's throw away from his stomping grounds of Goldthorpe, Mexbrough, Wentworth and Hoober Stand ( a local 'folly' or monument).


Eruthurin
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May 9 2009, 7:26pm

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Thanks girls! He must be Bard! [In reply to] Can't Post

Mrs Bard, Destrier.. thanks for the pics... definitely this shows how a good Bard Richard could be....
Let's fill Guillermo's E-mail with this idea!!!!!!! hehehehee.... *kidding* Laugh

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Destrier
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May 11 2009, 3:49pm

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Exactly! [In reply to] Can't Post

Glad you liked the pics, Eruthurin. (Who wouldn't???)

Here are two more of RA looking grim, intense and very Bard-like...



Anyway, this was certainly the way I imagined Bard as looking every time I read The Hobbit... and it was also exactly the way I pictured Aragorn when reading LotR!



SirDennisC
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May 15 2009, 1:07am

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Young Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

Jeremy Renner



Agile and charming, now imagine mit a mop of curls. Tada!


debo
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May 15 2009, 1:22am

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He does look pretty good doesn't he? [In reply to] Can't Post

Gerard Butler must have a role in The Hobbit!!!!!!

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SirDennisC
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May 15 2009, 2:41am

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Uh [In reply to] Can't Post

would have to agree about Jeremy Renner's looks though I suspect someone has a severe case of GB fever. 2 hours of Beowulf & Grendel stat!


debo
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May 15 2009, 2:44am

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Am I a little over the top [In reply to] Can't Post

actually when I need to self-medicate I go for Phantom of the Opera. It has singing in as well:) It's a girl thing . .

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sticklebat
Lorien


May 24 2009, 1:33pm

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If I could pick and choose... [In reply to] Can't Post

from the list of casting suggestions, my personal favorite choices would look something like this...but first...

The Givens

Gandalf the Grey .......... Ian McKellan
Saruman the White ...... Christopher Lee
Elrond ......................... Hugo Weaving
Galadriel ..................... Cate Blanchett
Celeborn ..................... Martin Csokas
Gollum ....................... Andy Serkis

The Hoped Fors

Bilbo Baggins ............. Martin Freeman
Balin .......................... Ray Winstone
Dwalin ........................ Brendan Gleeson
Kili ............................. Angus McFadyen
Fili ............................. Kevin Weisman
Gloin .......................... James Cosmo
Bombur ...................... Ian McNeice
Thorin ......................... Brian Blessed
Dain ........................... Ian McShane
Beorn ......................... Vinnie Jones
Thranduil ..................... Richard Armitage
Glorfindel ..................... Matthew Horne
Bard ........................... Jim Caveizel
Smaug ........................ Andy Serkis

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sticklebat
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May 24 2009, 5:28pm

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...almost forgot... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Great Goblin .......... Danny Huston

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mulubinba
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May 25 2009, 7:00am

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" Then Bard drew his bowstring to his ear. The dragon was circling back, flying low, and as he came the moon rose above the eastern shore and silvered his great wings.

'Arrow!" said the bowman. 'Black arrow! I have saved you to the last. You have never failed me and always I have recovered you....... go now and speed well"
JRR Tolkien: The Hobbit



Ermanatar
The Shire


May 25 2009, 9:09am

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Here's my picks!!! Feel free to comment as you like!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman
Thorin Oakenshield - Brian Blessed
Balin - James Cosmo
Dwalin - Brendan Gleeson
Fili - Brian Cox
Kili - Ray Winstone
Oin - Kevin McNally
Gloin - Billy Connelly
Dori - Vinnie Jones
Nori - Kelsey Grammar
Ori - Timothy Spall
Bifur - Jack Black
Bofur - Simon Pegg
Bombur - Jorge Garcia
Beorn - Ron Perlman
Bard the Bowman - Jim Caviezel
King Thranduil - David Bowie
Goblin King - Doug Jones
Radagast the Brown - John Hurt
Master of Laketown - Stellan Skarsgard
Voice of Smaug - Ian McDiarmid

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MrCere
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May 26 2009, 5:49am

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Nice [In reply to] Can't Post

I must say, that cast list would be strong and fun. One could only hope. 8)

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Ermanatar
The Shire


May 27 2009, 7:24am

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THANX!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I might consider replacing Vinnie Jones and Jorge Garcia. Vinnie Jones seems too big and muscular for the rest of the cast I've chosen and I'm not sure if Jorge could pull of that Welsh lilt accent that was done so well by John-Rhys Davies. I chose Vinnie because I just couldn't think of anyone else and Jorge because......well.......he's rather large and Bombur WAS after all, the fat dwarf.

Wow, that' s horrible.....

I feel bad now.....

Jorge, if you're reading this, I love you man......LOST is my favorite show......

I liked Jorge paired up with Jack Black and Simon Pegg as Bifur, Bofur and Bombur, though. I thought they would make a pretty funny comedy trio for the film's comic relief element.

The rest of my fantasy cast is pretty solid, I think.

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sticklebat
Lorien


May 29 2009, 8:47am

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Kevin McNally... [In reply to] Can't Post

another really great suggestion for Dwarvish roles...
I also like
Bill Bailey
Dara O'Briain
Timothy Spall
Kenneth Cranham

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sticklebat
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Jun 2 2009, 7:42am

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Armitage... [In reply to] Can't Post

 just looks so much more an Elf-lord to me...elegant, aristocratic, statuesque features...down to the sharp nose & graceful ears.

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Imba
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Jun 2 2009, 9:42pm

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Richard Armitage for Hobbit film [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
posted here are all i have to go by. never seen him in 'action'. but if he's forty, he looks great. i wouldn't have put him past thirty.



He's in his 30s.

I have seen him in action. He's a great actor. Better than loads of better known ones, imo.

(Hi, Mulubinba. Lovely caps - )

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oneminutetomidknight
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Jun 5 2009, 8:57pm

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just looks so much more an Elf-lord to me...elegant, aristocratic, statuesque features...down to the sharp nose & graceful ears.



eh, you certain? he's a complete Man - gruff, moody, dark hair, beardy - hardly elegant

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debo
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Jun 6 2009, 3:52am

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Rupert Penry-Jones [In reply to] Can't Post

for something!! He has just exited form Spooks here in NZ (boohoo!)

Could he please play an elf Lord, or possibly Thranduil???

TongueWinkSmileUnsure

Frodo; "What I chiefly need now is courage . . ."

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sticklebat
Lorien


Jun 6 2009, 4:24am

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yeah, fairly certain... [In reply to] Can't Post

that's the beauty of individual perception...
he could be cast as either race & it wouldn't necessarily make an entire world of difference.
he doesn't appear rugged or Bard-y to my eyes...he looks to me to be of fair Elven race.
people just see different things...
I'm sure whomever is cast in any of the speculated roles, whether they match any of the above suggestions or no, the director will also have seen something different still.

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Chaendra
The Shire


Jun 7 2009, 1:16am

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Oi Vey! [In reply to] Can't Post

So many actors, my head hurts!

I've never seen Martin Freeman in anything but from his looks I think that would be a good Bilbo!
As for Bard I'd probably want Christian Bale, from what I've seen he can pull off the grim/pessimism pretty well to be Bard.

With Smaug I have like a million and a half ideas, but I saw this movie called Dragonheart when I was little and it was always one of my favorites and the dragon in the movie is voiced by Sean Connery and he did a magnificent job, I thought. So I think it would be neat for him to be the voice for Smaug.

As for everyone else I'm pretty open for whatever GDT thinks is best.

Off topic, but yay my first post.


Sharky
Bree


Jun 7 2009, 1:37am

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Thranduil... [In reply to] Can't Post

A few suggestions for Thranduil:

Daniel Day-Lewis
Jeremy Irons
Rupert Everett
Sam Neill
Michael Ironside

And here we find you, smoking and...feasting!


debo
Rohan

Jun 7 2009, 9:20am

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It should be someone good-looking, like Hugo Weaving, which IMHO rules out most of these actors. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Frodo; "What I chiefly need now is courage . . ."


Destrier
The Shire


Jun 7 2009, 4:58pm

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You're right, oneminutetomidknight... [In reply to] Can't Post

...Richard Armitage is all man. He's altogether too masculine and sexy Wink and IMO looks too big and 'mightily thewed' for an elf (mmm... those shoulders and thighs Blush). At the slight risk of repeating myself Wink, he would make a perfect Bard.

He does 'grim' so well...


...and he looks formidable with a long bow.


Plus... he's got THE VOICE (sorry, can't post a picture of that!)

Below are two casting suggestions in one: Bard (Richard Armitage) walking beside the Great Goblin (Keith Allen). They could save money casting Keith Allen as the goblin king because he wouldn't need much make-up...




Chaendra
The Shire


Jun 10 2009, 7:06pm

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Bill Nighy! [In reply to] Can't Post

I simply love him, he was great in PotC and he was also quite funny in Love, Actually (he was actually the main reason I enjoyed that movie!)
I'd definitely want him to be in the movie somehow, not sure if I picture him as a dwarf though.


sticklebat
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Jun 10 2009, 8:21pm

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Rupert Everett & Bill Nighy... [In reply to] Can't Post

I think Rupert Everett would make decent Thranduil...I could definitely see Bill Nighy in The Necromancer/Early Sauron role.

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Arwen_Undomiel
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Jun 11 2009, 2:59am

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Thanks so, so much for putting this list together! It's the only thing I show people for Cast Speculating, besides the official Hobbit movie website/ GDT interviews, though he really doesnt say much- but hey, GDT is going to reveal the actor for Bilbo soon, I'm going nuts, I can't wait to find out!!!!!!

Thanks again!
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the_Big_X
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Jun 13 2009, 1:49pm

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You ought to add Javier Bardem as a suggestion for Smaug.

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Arwen_Undomiel
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Jun 13 2009, 4:18pm

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I'll look him up, hold on

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Sharky
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Jun 13 2009, 10:17pm

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Casting Bilbo... [In reply to] Can't Post

Saw someone mention Alton Yelchin (Chekov in the recent Star Trek) for Bilbo on another fourm. That's a worthwhile consideration.

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Arwen_Undomiel
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Jun 13 2009, 11:41pm

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I like your signature!

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Sharky
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Jun 14 2009, 2:43am

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It's one of my fave lines in the trilogy! You've got to love Gimli!

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Arwen_Undomiel
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Jun 14 2009, 4:46pm

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terrymerry
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Jun 16 2009, 8:53pm

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The Voice : Smaug [In reply to] Can't Post

The Voice for Smaug :-

Well it`s goto be Christopher Lee! or..Anthony Hopkins ! ...... Both are Icons of evil, plus having the upperclass English accent or welsh if it was Anthony Hopkins for playing these type of parts ...
Plus Anthony Hopkins being Welsh has a strong connection with: Dragons...both would do this role justice...Wink


sticklebat
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Jun 17 2009, 8:04am

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except for the fact... [In reply to] Can't Post

that he looks sixteen...not fifty one...Unsure

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superbu
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Jun 22 2009, 4:51pm

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Yes, I thought Colin Firth was one of the top choices as well. He looks and sounds like Ian Holm.


IvanDrago
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Jun 29 2009, 6:26pm

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Too many famous actors. [In reply to] Can't Post

Personally I feel that some of these casting suggestions are a bit out of line, such as Russell Crowe as Bard or George Clooney as Smaug. What worked so well in LotR movies was that most of the actors were not "Hollywood stars", and when you looked at the characters, you did not immediately associate them with the image of that star, you associated them with how they were presented on screen as these characters.
So, here are some of my suggestions:

Bilbo: I like James McAvoy, simply because I think he looks like a hobbit and he is good enough actor (after watching him in Atonement, I am convinced he can be a great lead for this movie), I also like the idea of Ian Holm coming back for narration.

Bard the Bowman: Jim Caviezel. I like this suggestion because I think he is a good actor and he also looks the part.

Thorin: Brian Cox, easy one for me, I think he has good authority in his voice to portray Thorin, looks good for the role as well.

Smaug (voice): Jeremy Irons.

Dain: Ray Winstone

Beorn: Ray Stevenson

Thranduil: Kenneth Branagh

Great Goblin: Ron Pearlman

Bolg: Doug Jones


Lorethiel
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Jun 29 2009, 8:11pm

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I've been looking at little noticed actors with a new eye recently and wondering...who would I pick for Bilbo? We recently watched all 8 Seasons of That 70's show for the first time and curly headed Danny McMasterson has caught my eye. He seems like a really well-balanced guy who has some handsome hobbity good looks hidden behind all the sideburns, sunglasses, beards and moppet hair. I wonder if he has an ear for accents? The thought seemed so perfect that it made me check to see if they had actually cast Bilbo yet. For some reason, I get the feeling he's yet to come into his own. I was watching some interviews with him, and he really looks older than he is and could easily play a 40 year old hobbit. I know he certainly can do some gorgeous close-ups. His eyes are just as blue as can be and have a wonderul hobbit twinkle to them when he talks. Something you never got to see in the TV series. Yea, I think we should watch out for him soon. In his early 30's he ripe to play a nice leading role and really put some guts into a role like Bilbo. I really would like to see someone do a hobbit who has acting depth. Of course..EW did a great job for such a young actor, but Bilbo had so much more angst and desire for adventure than Frodo..I'd like to see him with a little bit of an edge to him.

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Pioneer
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Jul 3 2009, 1:25am

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Bilbo: Martin Freeman.

If there's a main female elf: Selma Blair.

Trolls/dwarves: Jack Black, Alfred Molina & Bernard Hill.


Fool of a Took
Bree


Jul 3 2009, 6:21pm

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who's the guy to the left of Danny in the pic you posted? [In reply to] Can't Post

....he looks like a potential Bilbo as well, perhaps...

"Despair, or folly?" said Gandalf. "It is not despair, for despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt."

"This is the hour of the Shire-folk, when they arise from their quiet fields to shake the towers and counsels of the Great."

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Eruthurin
Rivendell


Jul 4 2009, 1:16pm

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An opportunity for Richard???? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey!.... I just heard about the cancellation of Robin Hood!....
Richard is free now to go to New Zealand!....

Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
Richard for Bard!!!!!!....

:: All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you ::
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Eruthurin
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Jul 4 2009, 1:19pm

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Robin Hood Canceled, Richard's Time! Richard for Bard! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey just heard about this and my first thought was: "Hey, he is free now to be Bard!!!!"...
Let's make a campaign!!!!!!.....

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Eruthurin
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Jul 4 2009, 1:23pm

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Hey, what about Ben?.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Agree with you Lorethiel....
besides, watching this picture with Ben Foster, I would think on him too....
he's note the big star, but he is a good actor though.... I've seen some of his performances and liked him alot!....

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SirDennisC
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Jul 7 2009, 9:24pm

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way for a proper Robin Hood (Scott's), no more.


Lalaithiel
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Jul 9 2009, 11:53am

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Richard Armitage for Bard and Keith Allen for Goblin King! [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
...Richard Armitage is all man. He's altogether too masculine and sexy Wink and IMO looks too big and 'mightily thewed' for an elf (mmm... those shoulders and thighs Blush). At the slight risk of repeating myself Wink, he would make a perfect Bard.

He does 'grim' so well...


...and he looks formidable with a long bow.


Plus... he's got THE VOICE (sorry, can't post a picture of that!)

Below are two casting suggestions in one: Bard (Richard Armitage) walking beside the Great Goblin (Keith Allen). They could save money casting Keith Allen as the goblin king because he wouldn't need much make-up...





Ha, ha!! Keith Allen as the Goblin King!! I love it!! :P


Jettorex
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Jul 9 2009, 2:11pm

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 A fool of a Took!Smile

Pippin's long lost brother, actually!


- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."


sticklebat
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Jul 11 2009, 4:07pm

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really? ouch!Unsure

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Fool of a Took
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Jul 11 2009, 7:53pm

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I resemble that remark! Tongue

"Despair, or folly?" said Gandalf. "It is not despair, for despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt."

"This is the hour of the Shire-folk, when they arise from their quiet fields to shake the towers and counsels of the Great."

http://hobbitmeals.wordpress.com


Destrier
The Shire


Jul 14 2009, 4:50pm

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Keith Allen IS the Great Goblin! [In reply to] Can't Post

The resemblance is quite striking - they must be brothers.



(With apologies to John Howe for mucking around with his brilliant artwork.)



Pioneer
Rivendell


Jul 16 2009, 10:39am

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Hobbit cameo. [In reply to] Can't Post

It would be a crime against humanity not to have Rhys Darby, band manager to Flight of the Conchords, have a cameo as a hobbit.


oneminutetomidknight
The Shire


Jul 17 2009, 11:09am

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As a hobbit he would be great, we've already seen Bret in as Figwit - i think we need Jemaine for a role as well

"That's not a knife...oh wait, yeh it is" Jemaine Clement

"You spend the first 5 years trying to get with the plan, and the the next 5 years trying to be with your friends again" All My Friends

"'I've had nothing but maggoty bread for 3 STINKING DAYS...." A.N. Orc


digger
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Jul 24 2009, 11:45pm

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Smaug's voice, a new suggestion [In reply to] Can't Post

Gabriel Woolf has the most amazing voice. He was the voice of Sutekh in the Pyramid of Mars, and that of the Beast in the Satan Pit and the Impossible Planet in Doctor Who. I would love to hear him as Smaug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Woolf


Nazgul
The Shire


Jul 27 2009, 6:10am

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Jonathan Hyde as Saruman [In reply to] Can't Post

I was watching PBS King Lear with Sir Ian McKellen and since Christopher Lee won't be able to make it to NZ why not Jonathan Hyde as Saruman!? He sounds and looks like a young Christopher Lee!





deej
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Jul 28 2009, 2:44pm

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At the Doctor Who panel during Comic Con this weekend, he joked that one of the things he loved about Comic Con were all the rumours: "I'm retiring, i'm playing The Hobbit - not true!"


"...and back again."



SirDennisC
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Jul 28 2009, 3:02pm

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perhaps there is still hope for Jeremy Renner, who just so happens to be free at the moment. Not for long though if The Hurt Locker does as well as expected.

Now if RA would just make such a statement... Wink


Sunflower
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Aug 3 2009, 6:24am

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Doug Jones expounding on his hopes for "The Hobbit", when asked THE question at a Mexico City version of Comic-Con.

VERY funny--his Smaug comment is priceless, as is reaction of the actor next to him.

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

Enjoy.


greendragon
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Aug 4 2009, 7:31pm

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Mark Hamill!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd love to see him get a role in The Hobbit. He's a great actor - his voice work in various animated movies is brilliant - and, being the originator of the 'Mark Hamill curse' (which folks like Elijah Wood and Dan Radcliffe are working hard to try to avoid), he doesn't get the credit he deserves. Give the man a role, I say! He'd be fab.

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mulubinba
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Aug 24 2009, 1:09am

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Richard Armitage as Bard? Will Bard be in the second movie? [In reply to] Can't Post

If the latest rumours are true and filming starts early next year, how likely will it be for Richard Armitage to be available to be in this movie? Granted, I believe he would be the perfect Bard (and have been saying so for well over a year) but his availability will depend on whether Bard appears in the first or second movie.
He seems to be already committed to other projects for 2010..... good for him that he has work, but not so good for those of us who would like to see him in this role...


Patty
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Aug 24 2009, 1:18am

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as Bard.

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Steelsheen
The Shire


Sep 2 2009, 4:12pm

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Adding this name to the list.... [In reply to] Can't Post

the recent IMDB poll got me thinking.... what about Ben Barnes for Bard? or even Thranduil? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1602660/). the kid's got theater cred and is a pretty competent actor, enough to hold his own even against acting heavyweights.


sticklebat
Lorien


Sep 2 2009, 5:28pm

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hmm...Barnes... [In reply to] Can't Post

way too young & fresh faced for either of those roles...imo.
Bard has to be older, grim, very 'everyman', very rugged...
Thranduil has to be kingly, full of wisdom, slightly menacing...I don't see it in him.


Steelsheen
The Shire


Sep 2 2009, 10:53pm

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well, i'm not sure about "older" but Bard is the typical everyman character that comes to his own as the story progresses. thats why i thought Barnes would do well in that role. and he can look scruffy-- he just finished an indie film called "Valediction" where he is quite rugged looking.

as for looking sinister for Thranduil, thats wasnt my primary qualifier for casting, but more of who could convincingly look like he could be Orlando Bloom's Legolas' father. there is a likenes between the two, although quite frankly i have no clue if Barnes can pull off the blonde look. in any case i wouldnt put it past Barnes to play sinister. from what i've seen of the "Dorian Gray" adverts Barnes can be pretty nasty basterd, his eyes can convey a lot of darkness (literally and figuratively).

edit: one other thing, Barnes isnt that young anymore either, he is 28. being kingly and full of wisdom will probably be a walk in the park for him at this point since he's doing Voyage of the Dawn Treader.


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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 3 2009, 4:26pm

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Aiken was mentioned in early 2008, but not for Bilbo. [In reply to] Can't Post

Here is the only time he'd been named on this board* before MrCere mentioned him in this thread.

*Though not really on this board, which didn't exist at that time -- the thread was moved here later.

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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 3 2009, 4:44pm

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Here is a fuller list of candidates who have been suggested on TORN for Bilbo. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think these are all the actors who have been seriously suggested to play Bilbo in discussions on this board (including many threads that were moved here when the board was created in May 2008). The names you already list above are starred. I include Liam Aiken on the assumption that he represents one of your own choices and not an editing mistake. Tom Cruise has been named often, but I think always with derision as regards the part of Bilbo. As someone else mentioned, the most surprising omission from your collation is Colin Firth, whose name has come up many times, probably less frequently only than Freeman and McAvoy.

Liam Aiken
Jack Black
Hugh Bonneville *
Kenneth Branagh
Simon Callow
Ice Cube
Alan Davies
Patrick Dempsey
Rupert Evans
Colin Firth
Martin Freeman *
Ricky Gervais
Paul Giamatti
Ryan Gosling *
Richard Hammond
Tom Hanks
John Hannah
Tom Hiddleston
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Tom Hollander *
Ian Holm
Barnaby Holm
Bob Hoskins *
Michael Hurst *
Eddie Izzard *
Toby Jones *
Skandar Keynes
Shia LaBeouf *
Donal Logue
William H. Macy *
Tobey Maguire *
Eddie Marsan
Danny Masterson
James McAvoy *
Sylvester McCoy
Ewan McGregor
Colm Meany
Dominic Monaghan
Sam Neill *
Craig Parker
Simon Pegg
Sean Pertwee
James Purefoy
Daniel Radcliffe
John C. Reilly
Jeremy Renner
Thomas Robins
Tony Shalhoub
Martin Shaw
Reece Shearsmith *
Michael Sheen *
David Tennant *
Robin Williams
Elijah Wood
Anton Yelchin

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Holbytla
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Sep 4 2009, 9:08pm

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My vote for Bilbo definitely goes to Tom Hollander - he's perfect for it and not so well known that his personality would subsume the character.
He's also quintessentially English and would play the part of an unwilling adventurer brilliantly. Just take a look of this clip from In the Loop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-5v6ZMY4W8

if you don't know, he's the guy talking to the journalists at the start


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weathertop
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Sep 6 2009, 5:52am

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interesting... [In reply to] Can't Post

has possibilities!


Twit
Lorien

Sep 7 2009, 1:37pm

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James Purefoy as Bard? He's a bit grim looking.


Steelsheen
The Shire


Sep 8 2009, 2:51pm

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Colin Firth= perfect but for one thing.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Colin Firth is the perfect Ian Holm replacement, except for one thing...

... he is very tall, at least 6'0. that is the only thing that keeping me from letter bombing PJ, GDT and crew about him. i know height isnt too much an issue given that most of the time Bilbo will be surrounded by Dwarves (therefore just hire "big" actors, who are taller than 6'0 most of the time anyway), but i feel that the casting folks are looking at actors no taller than 5'9, which makes it easier to shrink them later in post. casting for other characters (men, elves) will be easier too if the hobbit and the dwarves arent too tall to begin with.

but yeah, if height is not an issue for the Bilbo casting, Colin's my man! Smile


sticklebat
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Sep 8 2009, 5:00pm

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shouldn't matter... [In reply to] Can't Post

all that much...
the actors will be digitally scaled to the prescribed heights they need to be for the film...
virtually every member of the Fellowship were vastly different heights & they made it all work relatively seamlessly...
Colin Firth would be my runner up choice right behind Mr.martin Freeman...either of these two would be a perfect Baggins.
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ltcdunk
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Sep 8 2009, 7:47pm

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Jeremy Irons. 'Nuff said.

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Elfriend
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Sep 10 2009, 12:19am

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Cast [In reply to] Can't Post

From this day forth, I'm using these boards.

That's a fine list sir :)


Twit
Lorien

Sep 15 2009, 11:01am

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Thranduil.


mikehunt1974
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Sep 23 2009, 6:50pm

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Goblin King= TIM FREAKING CURRY!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Best Demon ever! Annd to voice Smaug how about going old school and hiring Clancy Brown! :) your thoughts?


Nesse
Lorien

Sep 26 2009, 11:01am

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Eye candy for us females plz [In reply to] Can't Post

Awesome lists from one and all....but you have gotta have some eye candy for us females no offence to Bilbo and the gang so we gotta look to Bard and maybe Thandruil. Sean, David, Orlando, Karl, and Viggo sent our pulses racing I think Richard Armitage as Bard would be a good call but for me its gotta be Hugh Jackman. I would NOT like to see lots off Hollywood actors but I would make an exception in his caseWink

I think although Beorn has to be of a certain stature theres nothing to say he cant be good looking, so come on ladies who apart from RA would have you drooling all over your popcorn.


Nesse
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Sep 26 2009, 4:19pm

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just a thought... [In reply to] Can't Post

Looking through a list of NZ and Australian actors how about Dominic Purcell for Beorn remember him from Prison Break and in Blade Trinity as Drake.


sticklebat
Lorien


Sep 27 2009, 5:01pm

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Jackman as Bard... [In reply to] Can't Post

I can think of a dozen far better choices...
after the absolute stinker that was the Wolverine origins movie, I 'd really prefer to not see him anywhere close to The Hobbit...
I think we've been far too saturated with not so wow-able films featuring ole Hugh...(Australia)
no dis credit to his talent, but they'd be so wrong to go with a name like him...
Guillermo & Peter & the gang are gonna cast the right guy...I think they'll go with a less than heavy hitter...an underdog...
either Jim Caveizel or Kevin McKidd from the series Rome...would be awesome choices...

I think Tim Curry would be amazing as The Goblin King though...
he is one of my favorite actors...& he's very underrated & doesn't do roles that do him any justice anymore...this would be a good spot for that...

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


mamph17
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Oct 12 2009, 1:54am

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Dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

I really hope that Jack Black is not a serious consideration. I just have this feeling that he just wouldn't work in the fantasy world of middle earth.


priell3
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Oct 26 2009, 1:51pm

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Not a bad choice for Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

Colm Meany. He has that Hobbity look.




Destrier
The Shire


Oct 31 2009, 4:04pm

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Only one [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree about the eye candy, but sorry, I can't think of anyone apart from RA who would have me drooling over my popcorn. He's the only one!



Nesse
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Oct 31 2009, 7:23pm

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good call [In reply to] Can't Post

looking at him I think he would make a convincing Bilbo unless they want someone around the age of Elijah


Mrs Bard
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Nov 1 2009, 12:49pm

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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm with you Destrier! Richard Armitage is the only person that springs to mind when I think of "eye candy" or "drool"...


sticklebat
Lorien


Nov 3 2009, 9:06pm

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well... [In reply to] Can't Post

I guess there's gonna be some soggy popcorn out there...
and that makes me kinda sad...
soggy popcorn is no fun indeed...Unimpressed

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


balinman
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Nov 10 2009, 12:45am

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it would have been neat if christopher lee would have returnedSmile


Elizabeth
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Nov 10 2009, 8:57am

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He may, yet. [In reply to] Can't Post

This issue has been discussed a lot, most recently in this thread.

Welcome to TORn, balinman. We appreciate your enthusiasm (we're all excited about The Hobbit!), but I suggest you'll get the most out of TORn by reading at least the top posts and a few responses in most current threads, so you can be up to date on all the speculation!





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balinman
Rivendell


Nov 11 2009, 9:59pm

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casting summary [In reply to] Can't Post

i want michael sheen to be bilbo:)


Cass
The Shire


Nov 14 2009, 2:22pm

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wow [In reply to] Can't Post

haha wow, that's a lot of people there....O__o i guess i really should not be surprised though. xD


LuthienBono
The Shire


Nov 17 2009, 4:59pm

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Richard Armitage for the bard! [In reply to] Can't Post

Being a fan also of Richard Armitage, I totally agree that he would make the perfect bard! To quote Destrier ''He looks like he's walked straight out of Middle Earth - he's a broad-shouldered 6'2", dark, noble-featured. He does grim and intense better than most and he's got the most beautiful, dark, deep voice... What's more, he can use a longbow and wield a sword convincingly, and he looks magnificent on a horse! He's also said in interviews that he's a Tolkien fan.'' Couldn't put it better myself!!

One of my favourite pics of Richard as Sir Guy of Gisborne


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Nienna
Rohan


Nov 17 2009, 5:18pm

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Looks Good LuthienBono [In reply to] Can't Post

He looks to be a perfect Bard - and welcome LuthienBono. Nice to see knew names.


LuthienBono
The Shire


Nov 17 2009, 6:30pm

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New name old member! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, the name might be new but I've actually been a member of this sight for years! Although it has just been a couple of years since I last visited here until today, and I found that I was unable log in with my old username (MrsBono) and password, so I had to create a new account!! Evil

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Falcrum_love
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Nov 23 2009, 10:51pm

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I really think Tony Shalhoub should be Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

he is the PERFECT Bilbo Baggins! i mean go watch an episode of Monk! picture him with giant feet! He's Bilbo!
Dont you guys think so?



(This post was edited by Falcrum_love on Nov 23 2009, 10:53pm)


duats
Grey Havens

Nov 24 2009, 5:02am

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I had never considered Shalhoub. But he does have an Ian Holm Bilbo-esque look to him.

Throw a wig on him and dye the eyebrows and yeah, I could definitely see it.

Good call.


duats
Grey Havens

Nov 24 2009, 6:55am

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I'm gonna go ahead and throw Mickey Rourke into the mix for Beorn. Knowing him as a method actor he'd probably go live with bears for two months Laugh.


Gorfindel
The Shire


Nov 24 2009, 2:03pm

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I like that idea... [In reply to] Can't Post

Tony Shalhoub could be brilliant.


Arien
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Nov 24 2009, 9:20pm

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I'm not worried.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, I have supreme confidence that whoever they cast for whatever role will be brilliant. Assuming the same folks who were involved with casting the LOTR films are involved in The Hobbit as well, anyway. I wasn't so sure about some of their choices when I first heard about the trilogy so many years ago, but ended up being not one bit disappointed in any of the actors for those films, and quite a few of them just blew me away. So I expect I'll be happy with whoever they go with this time around, even if they're not my personal first choice.


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Twit
Lorien

Dec 2 2009, 1:33pm

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Tim Roth; Bilbo? [In reply to] Can't Post

Gary Oldman; Bilbo? [if he fattens up a bit]


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sticklebat
Lorien


Dec 2 2009, 5:52pm

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Shaloub...Roth...Oldman... [In reply to] Can't Post

all great actors....but I don't see the Bagginses in them...

Oldman is a brilliant actor...
but for Bilbo...I say no to all three...there's somebody out there yet, be they unapproached, or on standby...who just IS Bilbo...
this guy has to embody him in every way.

I have my top two...but the likelihood of either one of them being cast has slid further & further down the hill...
so I'm just gonna be patient & trust them to cast the perfect Bilbo...

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


damccoy
The Shire


Dec 5 2009, 7:29pm

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I do like continuity....but actually, yeah...he would be great for Bilbo.


frododoc
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Dec 10 2009, 12:59am

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Andy Serkis [In reply to] Can't Post

To play another role like he did in king kong? A dwarf maybe?


sticklebat
Lorien


Dec 10 2009, 7:57am

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Andy Dwarfs most in talent... [In reply to] Can't Post

he would be such an amazing Smaug...

his vocal talent alone...
producing that perfect, iconic voice for Gollum...not to mention his physical body and emotions...

Andy would be a brilliant Smaug...listen to him in The Screwtape Letters...wow...
can't say it enough, really...he should play both characters in The Hobbit...

GDT, PJ...tell me you wouldn't agree...

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


mikemize
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Dec 14 2009, 7:42pm

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Casting Calls [In reply to] Can't Post

My vote for "Smaug" goes to Max von Sydow, please use him before we lose him.


Falcrum_love
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Dec 15 2009, 3:52am

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what? [In reply to] Can't Post

how do you not agree that Shalhoub, Mr monk, should be bilbo?
you obviously have not seen an episode of Monk.


sticklebat
Lorien


Dec 16 2009, 9:39am

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no... [In reply to] Can't Post

I've seen Tony Shaloub in Monk, actually...I wouldn't have responded with such certainty of opinion if I hadn't..
and if I hadn't, I would have looked up an episode to watch to determine for myself whether he struck me as who I'd LONG envisioned Bilbo Baggins to be...

and...sorry if my opinion differs from yours...but that's the beauty of individual perception...
everyone sees something different and is ultimately entitled to their own opinion...
apparently everyone who's anyone agrees he should be cast...?
the masses have spoken...?
he doesn't absolutely say Bilbo Baggins to me...at all...that's just me...
what can I say? agree to disagree...
Peace...

I see, strongly, either Martin Freeman or Colin Firth as Bilbo...leaning more toward Colin Firth these days...
but I have a sneaky suspicion someone relatively unknown has been cast...and I'm more than ok with that...

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


Holbytla
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Dec 17 2009, 9:29pm

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Tom Hollander [In reply to] Can't Post

Due to the delay in filming The Hobbit, Tom Hollander would now seem to be available for Bilbo - good news for Hollander fans!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Dec 19 2009, 4:50am

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Is it too late to change my vote [In reply to] Can't Post

for Bard from Thomas Kretschmann to Til Schweiger?

Seen most recently in Inglourious Basterds as Sgt. Stiglitz, some of you may remember Schweiger as Cynric, son of Stellan Skarsgard's character Cerdic, in King Arthur.

Although... King Arthur does bring to mind another actor who could play Bard: Mads Mikkelsen. He played Tristam in King Arthur but is probably better known as Le Chiffre in Casino Royal (2006). And for die hard Viggo fans, Mads is Danish as well.

Dang, come to think of it, they are all good choices... hmmm ok if it were up to me, Til Schweiger would get my vote.


Sanhael
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Dec 20 2009, 3:07am

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A Few Thoughts [In reply to] Can't Post

Bard: Liam Neeson

Beorn: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Jason Statham

Bilbo: Mark Williams (Arthur--dad--Weasley in the HP movies)


duats
Grey Havens

Dec 20 2009, 3:19am

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Eh [In reply to] Can't Post

I always envisioned Bard as a man in his late 30s/early 40's. While Neeson turns everything he touches into gold, I think he might be too old for the part.

A resounding "NO" to Dwayne Johnson being involved in this production in any way, shape, or form. Let him stick to terrible kid flicks.


sticklebat
Lorien


Dec 20 2009, 5:34am

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Bard...Liam Neeson...meh...he's in almost everything...Star Wars, Narnia, Batman...lets give an up & comer a go...

The Rock would be the stone that dragged The Hobbit right down to the bottom...

Mark Williams...a bit too fuddy duddy...like the opposite of James McAvcoy....
not fond of the idea of seeing any Harry Potter-affiliated actors in The Hobbit...
Peace.

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


erynion
Lorien

Dec 22 2009, 12:17pm

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Johnny Vegas for Bombur! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, he's a comedian type, but did anyone see him in "The Libertine"? The way he handled the old way of speaking was really natural. And I just think he looks perfect for Bombur, with a beard of course.




g_jones
The Shire

Dec 22 2009, 11:06pm

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Brad Pitt's Mystery Beard [In reply to] Can't Post

Brad Pitt has been sporting a strange beard lately, People Magazine suggested he remove it. I believe it likely being grown for a role, but he hasn't announced what role it is for. His IMDB schedule looks like there may be a big open area in the middle of 2010.

Just saying is all.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 22 2009, 11:40pm

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The Goblin King [In reply to] Can't Post

Just saying...

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


erynion
Lorien

Dec 23 2009, 9:00am

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characters [In reply to] Can't Post

David Bowie as Thranduil would be terrifying Laugh I love him, but if he does it I think I may scream.

And Brad Pitt for Bard, d'you think? He doesn't look very dwarfy, even with his beard, but Bard I can see. It's just a flip of letters away...


duats
Grey Havens

Dec 25 2009, 4:31am

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Another suggestion for Beorn [In reply to] Can't Post

How about Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men)?


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 25 2009, 4:57am

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I would believe [In reply to] Can't Post

he could turn into a bear.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 25 2009, 5:08am

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He would be good for Bard as well. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


Glorfindel
Rivendell

Dec 25 2009, 9:50am

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I'm still liking... [In reply to] Can't Post

Benicio del Toro for Beorn. He does Wolfie very well.


duats
Grey Havens

Dec 31 2009, 4:39am

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Luke Goss for Thranduil [In reply to] Can't Post

-I could buy him as Legolas' dad, and he even has a voice similar to Bloom's (in Hellboy 2, at least).
-Worked with GDT before.
-Pretty good actor, from what I've seen.


flippant
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Dec 31 2009, 10:36pm

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Casting the Voice of Smaug [In reply to] Can't Post

For Smaug you need an actor with a voice in a deep register (even if you boost the low end due to Smaug's size) who can project charismatic, smooth menace. So out of left field, how about Iggy Pop, Michael Dorn, or most especially Avery Brooks? Checked out any Deep Space 9 eps where Brooks gets angry? I wouldn't want to mess with him!


rosey
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Jan 9 2010, 6:54pm

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Rivendell [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope that Viggo Mortensen, Liv Tyler and Hugo Weaving should certainly reprise their roles in The Hobbit.


Authiel
The Shire

Jan 11 2010, 7:26pm

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Richard Armitage for Thranduil, all the way! [In reply to] Can't Post

I really think that Richard Armitage should play Thranduil. He has really elven features, not unlike those of Orlando Bloom, so it fits. When I saw Richard's picture, I just thought, "Wow! He looks just like how I imagined Thranduil!"


sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 11 2010, 8:52pm

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Armitage... [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree...Richard Armitage would be perfectly cast as Thranduil as well...

I don't, however, want to see either Viggo Mortensen or Liv Tyler in The Hobbit...
in no way does it enhance, nor make any it sense to the story.

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 11 2010, 10:14pm

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Can He Act? [In reply to] Can't Post

I do not recall him in Phantom Menace and have not seen him an anything else that I know of.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


Glorfindel
Rivendell

Jan 12 2010, 7:42pm

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Hi [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, he's been in dramas on the BBC - North and South (period drama); Spooks (modern day spy); and more lightweight stuff like the current series of Robin Hood where he plays a tortured Guy of Gisborne. Those are the ones I can recall off the top of my head.

I personally like him for Bard.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 12 2010, 10:50pm

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Well If You Use Orelando [In reply to] Can't Post

as the Ideal Elf, he does look the part. I am more concerned with acting as I am certain that Thranduil will be enhanced in the movies. You know, like have lines and stuff. He is visible in the book but does not have a lot to say.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


Glorfindel
Rivendell

Jan 13 2010, 12:22am

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When I say he's been in tv dramas I should have clarified to say that he has starred in these. I still see him as Bard more than Thranduil as he has that brooding man of action quality. Someone you could rely on in a tight spot. Not that I've given him too much thought you understand....


7777777
Rivendell


Jan 13 2010, 2:49am

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Bombur [In reply to] Can't Post

Poker player Tony G as Bombur...

"On ya bike now..."



mmmmmm Cram!

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 13 2010, 3:04am

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Jorge Garcia as Bombur [In reply to] Can't Post

You know, Hurley on Lost.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.

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7777777
Rivendell


Jan 13 2010, 4:17am

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Never seen the show, only previews, [In reply to] Can't Post

but he seems perfect

mmmmmm Cram!


sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 13 2010, 8:29am

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sorry but... [In reply to] Can't Post

there are so many other actors who'd be awesome as Bombur...
I really hope Gorge Garcia is not Bombur...
think of them casting a young, spry, swashbuckling Bilbo...not good right?

Bombur needs more years on him...
my first choice would be Ian McNeice.
Evil

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 13 2010, 1:04pm

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I Doubt Bilbo will be 50 in the movies as in book [In reply to] Can't Post

Makeup would take care of aging easily, and Dominic M. gives him a LotR connection

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 13 2010, 9:59pm

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quite likely... [In reply to] Can't Post

you're right...about ole Baggins...

I just think that are tons better choices to explore for Bombur...
I just get the sense that Garcia doesn't have that quality nor the vocal skill to match what I'd imagined Bombur to be like...
he sounds...not like a Dwarf should sound...in lieu of describing it outright...
but, I'm not making the decisions here, either, so...


the 'Lost' connection...not really all that pertinent...and not a convincing enough reason to cast him, in my humble opinion.
cheers.Evil

someone in a separate thread suggest another actor who may have had potential as Bombur...for get who it was now...

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 13 2010, 10:30pm

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I find myself on both sides of many arguments [In reply to] Can't Post

this is partly due to a split in reality. First there is the book "The Hobbit" and all that lies within its pages. Second there are the references within the Book to happenings in the greater Middle-Earth. Third there are outside materials within Tolkien's writings that expand the understanding of the Hobbit within the greater Middle-Earth writings. Fourth there is the canon of the three Peter Jackson LotR films. Fifth there is the DelToro factor and his history as a film maker.

I will argue one way on what I think would work as a big market film and another for the story as written. I love the Peter Jackson movies but feel so very much more about the Tolkien book(s). Also I speculate on what might be done with each scene, applying what I know of cinema to the situations here I get to venture into how I would visualize the story. Pitching these ideas to the diverse group that hangs out around here gives me feedback and lets me see with new eyes.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


Loresilme
Valinor


Jan 14 2010, 7:27pm

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As movie-Frodo didn't look or seem 50, I doubt movie-Bilbo will either // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 14 2010, 9:01pm

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It is much more important to the plot of the Hobbit that Bilbo be older. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.


ElanorG
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Jan 15 2010, 8:17am

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What do people think of Charlie Cox? [In reply to] Can't Post

Am I the only one who thinks Charlie would be a PERFECT Bilbo? He's got just the right balance of good looks, similar features to Ian Holm, Britishness, and seriously great acting chops! Anyone else agree? Thoughts?


sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 15 2010, 8:41am

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at first glance... [In reply to] Can't Post

I know I'm somewhat, if not a lot stalwart on this subject...I'll just hate it if they get the casting for Bilbo wrong...
they got it bang on with Ian Holm. period.

Charlie Cox...not the Bilbo I see at all...
I've never heard of this guy...never seen him act...but just by looking at him I'd have to say no...

he looks almost pretty enough for an Elf...but, I dunno...
you just have to kind of get a 'sense' about who the perfect Baggins should be...
don't get that from him...Evil

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.

(This post was edited by sticklebat on Jan 15 2010, 8:41am)


ElanorG
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Jan 15 2010, 6:33pm

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Good looking doesn't mean elfin; check the clip... [In reply to] Can't Post

See Stardust. Honestly, the character he plays at the beginning of that movie is the same sort of unexpected hero that Bilbo becomes. And, if you ask me, Elijah wood is pretty good looking. He played a hobbit!
Check these clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xfxZoBFGgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=654ULDnxh3U


duats
Grey Havens

Jan 20 2010, 2:41am

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Toby Jones [In reply to] Can't Post

On one hand, I would like the new Bilbo to bear at least somewhat of a resemblance to Ian Holm, just for the sake of continuity. However, I would love Toby Jones in the role.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/...600-R/Toby+Jones.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/...n-Toby-Jones-001.jpg


sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 20 2010, 8:23am

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Toby Jones... [In reply to] Can't Post

could definitely work for Bilbo...
right along the lines of who I see the character being...
not someone young and pretty...

would love to see Toby Jones cast as The Penguin in the next Batman.

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 20 2010, 9:41am

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Wa too young for Bilbo.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

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barlo80
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Jan 20 2010, 11:54pm

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I got the clue! [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo will be played by an unknown actor who will perform the scenes, but the image will be overlapped with a computer graphic version of a younger Ian Holm (more and less like Andy Serkis with Gollum). Ian Holm will be probably involved in the project, but most of the acting will be performed in New Zealand by an unknown actor (they are casting now) in motion capture technology, as the one developed by WETA for "Tin Tin".
Smaug and other characters will be also performed using this technique.
For who is thinking "bull...t": look at PJ's "Tin Tin", that's the easiest solution to keep continuity with TLOTR considering the massive achievement of the computer graphic 10 years later.
Bingoooo!!


duats
Grey Havens

Jan 21 2010, 12:28am

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Yeah, no [In reply to] Can't Post

As said in another thread, that process is overly expensive, overly complicated, and extremely time-consuming. And while we have made great strides in computer generated imagery, we are not yet at a place to digitally render a human to perfection. One of the worst things GDT and Co. could do would be to put in a digital replica of Ian Holm and not have it pass off as the real deal. The second it becomes clear it is CGI, the movie's credibility is shot.


Eruthurin
Rivendell


Jan 21 2010, 12:57am

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Yes, for Bard.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Agree!... Richard for Bard and Luke Goss for Thranduil.....!!!!!!!!!

:: All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you ::
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sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 21 2010, 9:10am

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that's entirely a bold approach... [In reply to] Can't Post

...to casting the main character of one of the most anticipated movies in recent years...

how did you come to this conclusion...it sounded fairly set in stone...are you privvy to inside info on this?

I wonder if the studio would go for this idea...(hand over chin, tapping, thinking...not likely)

cast the most appropriately aged and talented live actor qualified for the role...there's an idea...
old fashioned, I know...but gosh darn it...it just might work.

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.

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Puddum
The Shire


Jan 22 2010, 10:08pm

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Why can't Weta create a time machine? [In reply to] Can't Post

It's too bad time travel hasn't been invented yet as the crew could simply go back to when Ian Holm was younger and shoot it with him anyway. Unless they end up picking up someone magically good, Holm will forever be ingrained in my mind as THE Bilbo. So far, few of the names I've heard in speculation have really done it for me. Martin Freeman comes close, but I doubt he'll be cast. Regardless I am super stoked about the casting process and can't wait to find out who's playing who. x3


Loresilme
Valinor


Jan 25 2010, 1:45pm

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How so? [In reply to] Can't Post

Were there things that Bilbo did or thoughts he had that could not or would not be believable if done/thought by a younger person?

Or are you referring to specific time frame and events of the entire saga - that the story itself would not make sense if Bilbo's age was younger?


misbehaved
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Jan 27 2010, 10:46pm

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I just hope that they are able to cast this one like they did the trilogy. Studios and directors are often at odds when casting, the director wants the actor that can best bring life to his vision, the studio wants someone "bankable" As an actor I have been in this position, pushed out of a role because a name actor became available at the last minute.

Anyway... the thing that I loved about the trilogy is that at every turn, Peter got actors that absolutely nailed it, several of them with no public track record. My favorite performances were from Billy Boyd. That Peter got nameless actors into major roles on a 270 mil dollar film was a testament to the trust that the studio put in him. I really, really hope this one goes the same way.

www.simplytj.com


Tiria
Bree

Jan 28 2010, 8:58pm

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My notes on these two were kinda buried in other threads. Thought I'd call them out. :)


almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 28 2010, 11:12pm

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after re-reading The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

My thoughts:

a)Bilbo is de facto lead. The book is about him and it is not an ensemble piece like LOTR. hence the title The Hobbit.

b)Bilbo is multi-layered character and definitely NOT a comical bafoon and goofball. He is sarcastic, sharp-witted, often irritated by dwarfish stupidity and attempts to exploit him, cunning and bent on getting even with dwarfs (for above mentioned reasons),and he has a quite remarkable prowess as an action man. Also, at the end of the book, we see he is compassionate and forgiving.

c) Outside Bilbo, the only developed characters or characters who really have character/personality are Thorin, Smaug and Gandalf. Other dwarfs barely register and among them only Balin and Kili and Fili because they take Bilbo`s side and because K&F are Thorin`s nephews and the youngest of the bunch. Bard and Beorn are just episodes and one-dimesnsional good guys. Laketown Master is a standard power-hungry coward while Elven King is whatever. I really don`t have any opinion on him. Bland dude who likes wine, apparently.Gollum is Gollum and just an episode.

d) Bilbo is the hero of Smaug Slaying because he cunningly goaded the dragon to reveal his weak spot. It was pure luck that the bird whispered Bilbo`s finding into bard`s ear so Bilbo is the hero in my book, not Who Hell He.

Therefore, a comedian wouldn`t be too suitable to play Bilbo since comedy isn`t Bilbo essence nor is his the most typical trait. he is sharp-minded and cunning. Everything else is secondary.


Evernight
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Jan 30 2010, 1:57pm

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I would add Sir Patrick Stewart as a candidate for Master of Lake Town. IMHO that role would suit him better than a dwarf.

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...

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Glorfindel
Rivendell

Feb 5 2010, 9:18am

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Heard him on the radio today and thought...oooh.... he'd make a very threatening Goblin King. He is a very convincing bad guy. Although he did play the Beaver in Narnia but that's about the only good guy role I can think he's had. He gravitates towards the Dark Side.


Elbrethiel
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Feb 6 2010, 3:02am

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I love the idea of Billy Connolly as Thorin. Heart

I mean, really really love. I think he would totally nail it.

I'll probably be happy with whomever is chosen for whatever role, since I have been waiting for these films since FOTR when I was 15. Wink

Is it weird that I get really excited every time I hear anything new about these movies??


SirDennisC
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Feb 6 2010, 3:10am

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Not in this neck of the woods...

Welcome to TORn!


Twit
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Feb 8 2010, 12:43pm

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In ,my head, he is a lot like Stephen Fry in that respect, only Hobbity.


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b)Bilbo is multi-layered character and definitely NOT a comical bafoon and goofball. He is sarcastic, sharp-witted, often irritated by dwarfish stupidity and attempts to exploit him, cunning and bent on getting even with dwarfs (for above mentioned reasons),and he has a quite remarkable prowess as an action man. Also, at the end of the book, we see he is compassionate and forgiving.



Am not putting Mr Fry forward as my 'choice' , I just think he could portray the Bilbo characteristics with regards to personality.


Victrix
The Shire

Feb 20 2010, 8:54pm

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Eric Bana (Hector in "Troy") for Bard?


OrnawenRana
The Shire


Feb 21 2010, 3:47pm

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Wow, thanks for putting this together, [In reply to] Can't Post

and I just want to say who ever first suggested Jack Davenport for Bard, you are my hero. haha
Hugh Jackman is basically tied in my mind for that role as well.


Dreamaster
Bree


Feb 23 2010, 11:53pm

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For Bilbo I think [In reply to] Can't Post

Martin Freeman is the best choice.



Close your eyes, look into the dream
Winds of change will winds of fortune bring


Dreamaster
Bree


Feb 23 2010, 11:56pm

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Brian Cox is the best choice withiut doubt. That face screams Thorin he he he

Close your eyes, look into the dream
Winds of change will winds of fortune bring


hobbitspys
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Feb 25 2010, 12:35am

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Clive Standen for bard [In reply to] Can't Post

Clive Standen who played Archer(robins brother) in Robin Hood would be a good Bard and has all the sword/archery/horseback skills required...and has been linked to pirates 4 for some time so would not be surprised to hear his name mentioned in the coming weeks

he has been compared to Errol Flynn in the UK press so there is definitely a buzz around him with the studios
here is a link to the imdb page
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1641140/
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horsewisper
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Feb 26 2010, 2:03am

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LUKE GOSS SHOULD NOT BE ANYONE OTHER THAN AN ORK [In reply to] Can't Post

He cant act and is only good at warped prothetic roles ..you might as well have Ray park (darth maul) play a lead...leave the acting to actors not pop stars!


Leinad
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Mar 2 2010, 10:10pm

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Peter Jackson jump started the careers of several actors in LOTR. It's probably been covered, but why not cast some actors who are no-names who can do just as good a job for less money and help them out? Everyone keeps name dropping actors who are already known.

I came across this video on youtube the other day:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as8iBonwpE


It has two Canadian actors who look like they are brothers (or at least relatives based on the last names...could be coincidence), which Fili and Kili are already. The video is a little corny...clearly some budget issues... but they look great as the duo. They even used the right colours for their costumes.

Why not give them a shake at the roles?


Night Phoenix
The Shire

Mar 6 2010, 8:24pm

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It's too bad time travel hasn't been invented yet as the crew could simply go back to when Ian Holm was younger and shoot it with him anyway. Unless they end up picking up someone magically good, Holm will forever be ingrained in my mind as THE Bilbo. So far, few of the names I've heard in speculation have really done it for me. Martin Freeman comes close, but I doubt he'll be cast. Regardless I am super stoked about the casting process and can't wait to find out who's playing who. x3



That's the same with me. I simply cannot imagine anyone else as Bilbo except Ian Holm. He is...well, he is Bilbo! :) I do hope they try and keep some continuity and pick someone who looks a little like a younger Holm, and then with make up added, someone we could at least "buy" as Holm's Bilbo. I think that's going to be the toughest sell for me is to accept anyone else as Bilbo. It's going to be a lot to put on an actor, and I feel for whoever ends up being cast...he's going to have a lot of weight on his shoulders, that no one else really had in LOTR. Heck I know people who aren't even big fantasy fans, but LOVED LOTR, in large part because Holm's performance in Fellowship really drew them into Middle Earth from the get go. They were hooked for the rest of Trilogy.


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Night Phoenix
The Shire

Mar 6 2010, 8:40pm

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The Voice for Smaug :-

Well it`s goto be Christopher Lee! or..Anthony Hopkins ! ...... Both are Icons of evil, plus having the upperclass English accent or welsh if it was Anthony Hopkins for playing these type of parts ...
Plus Anthony Hopkins being Welsh has a strong connection with: Dragons...both would do this role justice...Wink



Actually, Anthony Hopkins is not a bad idea! I actually think Christopher Lee would probably be my choice, except he's already Saruman, and I'm quite sure everyone would recognize his voice and say "hey isn't the Saruman from LOTR? Is Smaug Saruman???) I think it would be too confusing for people who had never read the books. Plus, Hopkins has that subtle, "he's thinking of 15 ways to kill you right now" sound in his voice when playing a villain...he definitely could be the dragon of all dragons.

It would be fun to get Lee in the film, and voicing Smaug would be the way to do it, but I fear without flanging his voice digitally it would confuse people. (plus his voice doesn't need alteration, it's already so evil on it's own...lol!)

I actually think other than Bilbo, Smaug is going to be the hardest to cast because so much of the story relies on him, and he must have a magnetic personality, I think Hopkins fits that role and who know he can act. Though it would be fun to pick someone more obscure...it will be interesting to see what they end doing in the end.


terrymerry
Rivendell


Mar 8 2010, 11:13am

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Anthony Hopkins [In reply to] Can't Post

Haha! .... well I agree with you, so that`s sorted, it will have to be ....Anthony Hopkins ... ha! who going to give him a ring ...me or you ..Cool


misbehaved
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Mar 9 2010, 1:49am

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Gotta agree with that. Get some new blood up on the screen!

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Cobey07
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Mar 11 2010, 11:30pm

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Casting [In reply to] Can't Post

That's quite the list! Are they considering any unknowns like they did in LOTR? I've seen stuff all over the web concerning hobbit audition tapes...some are good ...but most are pretty bad...
I thought this one was kinda cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as8iBonwpE


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Mar 12 2010, 12:00am

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In case you missed it [In reply to] Can't Post

here is a longer list of suggestions for Bilbo. Though I think it is even longer since this post was made.

Welcome to TORn and thanks for the link.


Proprietor
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Mar 12 2010, 9:38pm

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Belief [In reply to] Can't Post

The only one I think can play bilbo now is indeed the true bilbo and that is the original from the movies. They just need to heavily add makeup and look him ten years younger.


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Mar 13 2010, 3:34am

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*snirt* Women have been trying this for years. And it never works. *glug* // [In reply to] Can't Post



(This post was edited by Eowyn of Penns Woods on Mar 13 2010, 3:35am)


Glorfindel
Rivendell

Mar 13 2010, 7:07am

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Bobbi Brown at Smith and Caughy in Auckland run an 'age defying facelift with makeup' workshop and... IT DOESN'T WORK.

Mind you Bilbo says in FOTR that he's stretched thin - like butter spread over too much bread and if he's given a facelift that's exactly what he'll look like so you might be on to something.

*glug*


macfalk
Valinor


Mar 20 2010, 7:59pm

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Stellan Skarsgård as a dwarf?




turinMerlin
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Mar 21 2010, 3:42am

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spiders [In reply to] Can't Post

don't know why, i've been wondering more about the spiders in mirkwood. to be honest, i was just a bit disappointed with how Shelob was done....just wasn't cutting it for me---it's my favorite part in the books.


Fazumar
The Shire

Mar 21 2010, 10:29am

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If Andy Serkis is for some reason unavailable... [In reply to] Can't Post

I would gladly throw my hat into the ring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_dN2IeZ0Q (<--- Gollum Monologue)
^^^ Watch this, it does not disappoint^^^


Would also absolutely relish the opportunity to audition for any other role.

The LotR trilogy is what made me want to become an actor, been doing it
ever since.

I know Guillermo reads and posts here.

Maybe, just maybe?

http://www.tylermichaeljonsson.com


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Mar 21 2010, 6:41pm

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Wow [In reply to] Can't Post

that was fantastic. Whether Andy Serkis is available or not, here's hoping your wish comes true!



Fazumar
The Shire

Mar 21 2010, 8:14pm

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Thanks for checking it out! [In reply to] Can't Post

SirDennisC:

Thank you so much!

I really appreciate the feedback, and am glad you liked it.

I hope the rest of you all get a chance to check it out as well.

Also, any sort of 'grass-roots' campaign to support my candidacy for casting in this film would be pretty awesome!

If there is *anywhere* that a die-hard Tolkien fan / Actor can drum up support to become involved in a film such as "The Hobbit",
TheOneRing.net is *IT*

You are all amazing! Thanks for checking out the video!

-Tyler

Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor.

http://www.TylerMichaelJonsson.com

(This post was edited by Fazumar on Mar 21 2010, 8:23pm)


Lost Hobbit
Rivendell


Mar 22 2010, 8:20am

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Shadow from the past [In reply to] Can't Post

Does anyone remember approximately the month when the first Fotr casting resulting revealed? I mean the general characters casting results - the Fellowship members, main elves and so on...??? How long it was before the principal photography started?



macfalk
Valinor


Mar 22 2010, 12:45pm

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Good work [In reply to] Can't Post

 you sound just like him! must have required a lot of practise.


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Fazumar
The Shire


Mar 22 2010, 7:06pm

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Surprisingly... [In reply to] Can't Post

Getting the Gollum impression down was not really that hard for me.

In fairness, Andy Serkis did the REAL work. Created an amazing character.

I have always had the ability to emulate characterizations and voices like those quite quickly and easily.

After watching TTT in theatres, I literally just went home and tried manipulating my voice to sound like Gollum. Within about an hour or so, there it was :-)

Been doing it ever since.

Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor.

Tyler Michael Jonsson's Official Website


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Mar 23 2010, 7:22am

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While watching [In reply to] Can't Post

Alice in Wonderland I thought Crispin Glover looked like a good candidate for Bard.



Glorfindel
Rivendell

Mar 23 2010, 8:27am

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Hmm, afraid not... [In reply to] Can't Post

..I just find him creepy rather than stoic and grim. If you grubbed up James Purefoy he might be good but his schedule looks a little busy.


Fazumar
The Shire


Mar 23 2010, 8:53pm

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Crispin Glover... [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree, Crispin Glover is a poor choice for Bard in my opinion.

He has made a career playing creepy, borderline psychotic characters. I have never seen him in a serious, grim role WITHOUT him being crazy.

Could he do it:? Perhaps. But there are other actors much better suited to the part.

Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor.

Tyler Michael Jonsson's Official Website


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Mar 23 2010, 9:18pm

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Maybe [In reply to] Can't Post

you would prefer number 7? Wink



Glorfindel
Rivendell

Mar 24 2010, 1:41am

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Btw... [In reply to] Can't Post

... thought your Gollum was very good. You should post more audition tapes on You Tube. Maybe you could do your own thing with one of the characters from The Hobbit that no-one has seen before. You look kind of elfin so maybe Thranduil or really stretch yourself and do a short 'riddles' scene with Bilbo and Gollum (and yes I know you're too young for all these characters but why not make it your interpretation). And have a look at the Noldor Blog http://nznoldor.blogspot.com/. He had some info a while ago on where to send your head shots and cv and was most insistent that they would get to the 'right' people.

Not that I know what I'm talking about but hey it's worth a shot and good luck!


stef_austin
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Mar 24 2010, 2:38am

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Casting submission address?? [In reply to] Can't Post

You'll have to excuse my lack of info here if these questions have already been answred... I haven't been keeping up with this forum for the last 2 months or so.

Has there been a mailing address posted yet for actors wanting to send headshots and resumes?

And did they move the schedule for filming back to 2011 or is it still set to begin this summer? I see it's starting in July. nm :P

Thanks!


(This post was edited by stef_austin on Mar 24 2010, 2:41am)


Fazumar
The Shire


Mar 24 2010, 7:37am

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Casting Directors on The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

I've actually done a bit of research and have determined the casting directors in charge of casting The Hobbit.

Luckily for me they just happen to be holding a Casting Director Workshop in Hollywood tomorrow evening, which I've signed up to attend!

These workshops are in no way an official audition or guarantee OF getting an audition.

Just a good way to introduce yourself to CD's who are casting projects you are interested in, and if the fates smile upon you, who knows where it could lead?

Sooo... Tomorrow night will be a very exciting time for me! Wish me well, my fellow Tolkien lovers!

Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor.
Tyler Michael Jonsson's Official Website

Watch My Gollum Impression Video (Best You Will Ever Watch!)


Glorfindel
Rivendell

Mar 24 2010, 8:58am

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Good luck indeed! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


macfalk
Valinor


Mar 24 2010, 7:32pm

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good luck indeed! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Fazumar
The Shire


Mar 25 2010, 10:53am

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What a great experience! [In reply to] Can't Post

Well everyone, I had the opportunity tonight to showcase my skills for one of the casting directors of "The Hobbit".

As an actor who has met many of the casting professionals in this town, I can honestly say that this gentleman was one of the kindest, most gracious CD's I have ever encountered.

I had a great time talking with him regarding my love for "all things Rings".

He assured me he would go and take a look at my Gollum impression video (link in sig)... After all he said, "If we don't get Andy, we will need someone else!"

Here are a few tidbits for you folks to chew on directly from the people casting the film...

Casting has indeed been "pushed", most likely until May/June or so.

Does this mean that NO casting decisions or contracts are being signed until then? Probably not. Actors like Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis (if he returns), and the like are probably already in discussions.

As far as actors coming in to read for parts such as Bilbo, Bard, the dwarves... etc...

That most likely is still in the brainstorming phase... The CD's have a list of people they want to audition, and may have started seeing a few select people... But the large scale auditions have not begun in earnest yet due to the schedule being pushed.

I hope you have found this information helpful! I had such a great time, I cannot express how humbled and honored I was to be acting for one of the people directly responsible for casting The Hobbit.

Lastly, I would just comment that you should not take any of this that I have said as absolute truth... While this person was extremely genuine and honest with those of us in attendance, it would be naive to assume that he was given direct permission to speak openly about such sensitive casting matters.

As such, it is possible that many parts have already been "unofficially" cast, barring a studio exec shooting down a potential candidate, or that candidate turning down the role (or someone else auditioning and blowing them away!!!).

Long story short: The Hobbit cast is nowhere near finalized, and there are many more developments to come in the following weeks and months.

Any more information I am able to uncover I will be sure to share!

Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor.
Tyler Michael Jonsson's Official Website

Watch My Gollum Impression Video (Best You Will Ever Watch!)


GAndyalf
Valinor

Mar 29 2010, 6:43pm

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I'm almost 50... [In reply to] Can't Post

And it worked for Star Wars to cast unknowns... PLEEEZE Mr del Toro?! I know more than half of it half as well as I should like and I like less than half of it half as well as it deserves! Sly

"Even the very wise cannot see all ends."



mungomunro
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Apr 4 2010, 4:30pm

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it might have been easyer to list those not under consideration by fans.

Smile

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Serafina
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Apr 15 2010, 2:00am

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Earl....just love the Rohan icon that you're using. So cool.Smile


roygbiv
The Shire


May 2 2010, 3:56pm

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Please NO Johnny Depp anywhere in the movie.

I do like Stephen Fry. He can do anything. Funny part in Gosford Park. Big man, booming voice.

That said, I would rather see unknown or little known actors who can deliver.

Hop along, my little friends, up the Withywindle!
Tom's going on ahead candles for to kindle.
Down west sinks the Sun: soon you will be groping.
When the night-shadows fall, then the door will open,
Out of the window-panes light will twinkle yellow.
Fear no alder black! Heed no hoary willow!
Fear neither root nor bough! Tom goes on before you.
Hey now! merry dol! We'll be waiting for you!


shadowdog
Rohan

May 2 2010, 5:16pm

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Of all the names on that list, why did you single out Johnny Depp to say "no" to? And to reassure you, unless the shooting schedule is postponed for a couple of years, Depp is not available to take a role in The Hobbit. He has on his schedule at the moment: POTC4, Dark Shadows, and the Pancho Villa film all to be shot back to back to back over the next year.Wink


roygbiv
The Shire


May 3 2010, 7:45pm

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cos [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to your question:

1. I was too lazy after my elevenses to go through the whole list.

2. His name caught my eye and even though he's a famous actor with great skills and fabulous bone structure, I don't want him within ten feet of the movie. It's just my "too recognizable, too distinct, too A list, too commercial" actor radar kicking in. That's just my own humble personal opinion and not meant to offend you or anyone.

Hop along, my little friends, up the Withywindle!
Tom's going on ahead candles for to kindle.
Down west sinks the Sun: soon you will be groping.
When the night-shadows fall, then the door will open,
Out of the window-panes light will twinkle yellow.
Fear no alder black! Heed no hoary willow!
Fear neither root nor bough! Tom goes on before you.
Hey now! merry dol! We'll be waiting for you!


shadowdog
Rohan

May 3 2010, 9:01pm

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No offense taken [In reply to] Can't Post

I was just curious.


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May 5 2010, 4:46am

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Better add Jack Thompson for Thorin {NT} [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Elrond
The Shire

May 8 2010, 7:19am

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For Bilbo... [In reply to] Can't Post

in that picture he (richard hammond) looks REALLY like a hamster!!!


Earl
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May 10 2010, 10:34am

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Hey Serafina... [In reply to] Can't Post

... so sorry for this really really late reply. I remember I had a lot of responses to my post and for some reason replying to you slipped off my mind. I did recall however that someone had commented on my avatar, but I had no idea who it was or what the text of the post was. I finally found it after looking through all the replies to my posts Cool

The avatar is based on one of the Rohan symbols from the movies. I Photoshopped it till I could get the effect I wanted.

Thanks and welcome to TORn Smile



Olaf the hairy
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Jun 4 2010, 12:21am

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casting [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like to see Richard Coyle as Bilbo.

He just starred in Terry Pratchett's Going Postal, as well as the sitcom Coupling. He was also in Prince of Persia (which I haven't seen)

I'd like to see Nick Frost or Johny Vegas as Bombur


durfalas
Bree


Jun 6 2010, 12:10pm

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lol Cindy Lauper!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

lol Cindy Lauper as a Spider!!! :))))

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etiede
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Jun 25 2010, 10:49pm

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Add 1 for Drogo Baggins! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was just put on tape by casting last week in Los Angeles to play Drogo and am currently waiting for word. Here's to hopefully living the dream!

Cheers everyone!

-ERIC TIEDE


Patty
Immortal


Jun 25 2010, 10:55pm

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Wow. Now we can guess that... [In reply to] Can't Post

the story will be written in such a way as to add that storyline. Yep, that would necessitate 2 films.

Permanent address: Into the West

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Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell


Jun 27 2010, 10:54pm

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Drogo.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Eric.. you are SO the doppleganger of Elijah Wood!! Wink


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I was just put on tape by casting last week in Los Angeles to play Drogo and am currently waiting for word. Here's to hopefully living the dream!

Cheers everyone!

-ERIC TIEDE



Eruonen
Valinor

Aug 26 2010, 8:22pm

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Jeremy Sims as a troll....supposedly he tested. [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/14/sims_wideweb__470x330,0.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.theage.com.au/news/film/back-from-the-brink/2006/07/13/1152637806735.html%3Fpage%3Dfullpage&h=330&w=470&sz=27&tbnid=Py5lHq0qFHniYM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djeremy%2Bsims&zoom=1&usg=__xa6EjocHHDSL3KZplzxjeb4ErWQ=&sa=X&ei=Tsx2TPfABozungfh742dCw&ved=0CC0Q9QEwBA

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=69105


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 5 2010, 8:05am

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Seeing as we are discussing this thread again... [In reply to] Can't Post

Put me down. ;)

(Still can't tell you my real name tho!)

Wink


Earl
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Sep 5 2010, 2:24pm

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How did I not see this before? [In reply to] Can't Post

WOW, I agree, you'd make a great Drogo Baggins (at least based on your looks as compared to Elijah Wood's Frodo).

Coolness! All the best Eric... you've got people rooting for you already Cool



Earl
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Sep 5 2010, 2:28pm

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I've never heard or seen him before... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but I'm not very knowledgeable about such stuff anyway. But he "looks the part", is what I think, and that's a good start.

At any rate it's great to hear of such "surprise" roles (Drogo Baggins, troll(s), and who knows what else), even if they're still not yet official Smile



Earl
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Sep 5 2010, 2:34pm

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In the words of Barliman Butterbur, "What his right name is I’ve never heard, but around here, he’s known as..." [In reply to] Can't Post

"... bob" Wink



Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 5 2010, 3:21pm

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The enigmatic BoB [In reply to] Can't Post

What role did you audition for? I've gone over your threads and I don't see you telling us anywhere which one it is. You also mention telling them who you are after you audition... what are you some long lost Tolkien relative who doesn't want to get the part because of your Elven ancestry? WinkSmileSly

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!

Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 5 2010, 3:34pm

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Bard [In reply to] Can't Post

Or at least that is what BoB has hinted at on at least one occasion.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


Earl
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Sep 5 2010, 3:40pm

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If I recall rightly.... [In reply to] Can't Post

.... B-o-B auditioned for the role of a Dwarf, and his nick "bond of blood" is meant as a reference a relative of Thorin, which is the role of the Dwarf he auditioned for.

He also posted a link to a youtube audio-only video of him reciting the Dwarf song "Far over the misty mountains old...", which I thought was very good as it really conjured a sense of mystery (to me!) Smile



Earl
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Sep 5 2010, 3:41pm

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Oh! I might've missed that (see my response to Tim) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 5 2010, 3:43pm

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Oh okay [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks Voronwe. Smile

Good luck with getting the part!

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!

Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 5 2010, 3:45pm

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Thanks Earl [In reply to] Can't Post

and yeah I watched his youtube reading of the poem as I was going through his posts. It was quite good.

Well for whatever role you've auditioned for BoB good luck to ya! Also appreciate you keeping us informed a bit on the progress of pre-production and casting.

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!

Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.

(This post was edited by Tim on Sep 5 2010, 3:48pm)


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 5 2010, 3:46pm

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That's what I thought too ... [In reply to] Can't Post

... until I saw the other post that seemed to confirm that he had auditioned for Bard. But perhaps I was confused.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 5 2010, 3:50pm

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Thanks again Voronwe no worries [In reply to] Can't Post

Either Bard or Thorin are major roles as he mentioned in one of his posts. Maybe he'll step in here and answer heh heh heh.

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!

Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 5 2010, 4:02pm

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For the record [In reply to] Can't Post

Here is the post that I thought made it seem like Bard was the role:

YES! Finally!

As you can see if you follow the link, it was in response to Merlwynd saying "my vote is for bond of blood! Go son go!" in a discussion about actors for Bard.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 5 2010, 4:12pm

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Fer sure [In reply to] Can't Post

That most definitely points towards the role of Bard.

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!

Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.


dormouse
Half-elven

Sep 5 2010, 7:19pm

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My memory of this is the same as Earl's... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure Bob told us he was auditioning for a dwarf: There was a lot of discussion at one time about the appropriate accent. He also hinted that 'Bond-of-Blood' referred to 'his' dwarf being related to Thorin, and there was mention of 'a younger dwarf'.

I think he also said at one time that Richard Armitage would be perfect for Bard....

Now I really AM confused!!


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 5 2010, 8:29pm

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I remember all of that, too [In reply to] Can't Post

Which is why I was so surprised when I saw the "Yes, Finally" post that I mentioned above.

Maybe BoB was purposefully trying to confuse us. Tongue

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


geordie
Tol Eressea

Sep 5 2010, 10:05pm

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yes [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe BoB was purposefully trying to confuse us.

That's possible - certainly the accent (or accents) used in 'Far over the Misty Mountains' confused me. They seemed to wander about a bit, as I recall. Not sure what part of the world Bob was aiming at (if any).

Anyhoo - doubtless all will be revealed in time..





Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 5 2010, 10:38pm

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Just to be clear [In reply to] Can't Post

I am NOT suggesting that BoB is lying about being considered for a part in the films (I saw your sarcastic post at the LOTR Plaza, geordie, about people here at TORN claiming to be up for parts in the films). Rather, my comment about his purposefully confusing us referred to the possibility that he may have been asked by the powers that be to keep things ambiguous for now.

I too have seen a lot of claims made at different forums that turned out to be completely bogus, and I've almost always been able to tell that from the start. I don't have that sense from BoB at all. I wanted to make sure that that was clear.

In any event, as you say geordie, doubtless all will be made clear in time.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 6 2010, 12:04am

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not trying to confuse... [In reply to] Can't Post

I've signed a non disclosure agreement with New Line so have to keep my comments vague and have had to remove my photo.

I can tell you that I didn't audition for Bard.....
....but that's not to say I wont get cast as Bard. ;)

Orlando auditioned for Faramir... but Liz though he'd make a better Legolas!

I'll be posting a new You Tube reading to tease you all further....soon.

Bond-of-Blood Wink


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 6 2010, 12:10am

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Eric Tiede for Drogo [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
I was just put on tape by casting last week in Los Angeles to play Drogo and am currently waiting for word. Here's to hopefully living the dream!

Cheers everyone!

-ERIC TIEDE


Eric has since informed me that unfortunately he didn't get the part. Unsure


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 6 2010, 3:16am

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Thanks for the clarification! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

www.arda-reconstructed.com


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 6 2010, 3:38am

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Well that explains it [In reply to] Can't Post

I was wondering why your photo got dropped off your posts. Well yes don't want to get you in trouble by all means follow the NDA. Smile

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!

Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.


etiede
Registered User


Sep 6 2010, 7:05am

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Casting News [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks Mate!

Lastest news here in L.A. is that production was being pushed again to January 2011, thus casting was being put on hold. I do know they decided they wanted a different accent for Drogo rather than the Standard English R.P. they originally asked for, so I'm hoping to get a chance to go back in again when casting resumes with more specific instructions on the characters dialect. Time will tell friends, but thanks for the support!


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 6 2010, 7:14am

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You have my vote bro.... [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
Thanks Mate!

Lastest news here in L.A. is that production was being pushed again to January 2011, thus casting was being put on hold. I do know they decided they wanted a different accent for Drogo rather than the Standard English R.P. they originally asked for, so I'm hoping to get a chance to go back in again when casting resumes with more specific instructions on the characters dialect. Time will tell friends, but thanks for the support!



Or should I say..".. my Axe!" Wink


Earl
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Sep 6 2010, 9:04am

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Thanks for the update... [In reply to] Can't Post

... in that case I'll be keeping my hopes up for you Smile



Earl
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Sep 6 2010, 9:06am

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I sort of figured why your pic was taken down... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but I didn't want to push it by asking. If it's that big a deal, you might want to ask the admins if they can strip the pics off of your older posts (as the pic still shows up on those) just to be safe Smile



Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 6 2010, 9:10am

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Yes please admins! [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
... but I didn't want to push it by asking. If it's that big a deal, you might want to ask the admins if they can strip the pics off of your older posts (as the pic still shows up on those) just to be safe Smile


..like Earl said. :)


merlwynd
Rivendell


Sep 6 2010, 9:54am

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confirmation [In reply to] Can't Post

Well I can vouch for bond of blood - he is the real deal! There are so many actors in the world that are vying for a part in these awesome movies and we should be backing him up. Go Bond-of-blood! We will see you on that silver screen very soon! I know we will........

MERLWYND


dormouse
Half-elven

Sep 6 2010, 10:00am

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Best of luck... [In reply to] Can't Post

.... whoever you are! Wink


merlwynd
Rivendell


Sep 6 2010, 11:47am

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on the train [In reply to] Can't Post

lets all get on the bond of blood train as this trains a soon to be leaving!

MERLWYND


Earl
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Sep 6 2010, 1:20pm

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Leaving? What dyu mean? :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



merlwynd
Rivendell


Sep 6 2010, 6:52pm

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only the train driver knows [In reply to] Can't Post

 

MERLWYND


Earl
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Sep 6 2010, 6:55pm

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Hmm, okay, now I'm as lost as Bilbo in the Goblins' caves :| // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



(This post was edited by Earl on Sep 6 2010, 6:56pm)


Ataahua
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Sep 6 2010, 7:15pm

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Good luck to you etiede! [In reply to] Can't Post

We'll wait to see if your photo ever disappears from your posts. ;)

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Sep 6 2010, 8:14pm

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So... it's back to being a dwarf again? [In reply to] Can't Post

Out of curiosity, how tall are you?

... and best of luck!


Altaira
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Sep 7 2010, 12:10pm

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Ditto, etiede [In reply to] Can't Post

Best of luck to you and Bond of Blood both! Smile


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Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 7 2010, 3:57pm

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I'm 5ft 11... [In reply to] Can't Post

Same height as Sir Ian, Orlando and Viggo. Yet more importantly, slightly shorter than John Rhys Davies. ;)

Thanks for the ongoing support everyone.

Please keep visiting my YouTube page and leaving comments on my "The Hobbit - Misty Mountains" video to help my cause.

BoB


(This post was edited by Bond-Of-Blood on Sep 7 2010, 3:59pm)


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Sep 7 2010, 4:19pm

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For those who haven't seen it yet... [In reply to] Can't Post

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xG1h3LC5g&sns=em

Mods, admins... any chance we can resurrect or sticky the original post for a while please? The video has over 500 views so far (all from here) and climbing. :)


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell


Sep 14 2010, 9:26am

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After just seeing his excellent audition tape for Bard...... [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
Well I can vouch for bond of blood - he is the real deal! There are so many actors in the world that are vying for a part in these awesome movies and we should be backing him up. Go Bond-of-blood! We will see you on that silver screen very soon! I know we will........


I can say now that I vouch for Merlwynd...... and his excelllent British accent! Smile

Best of luck buddy! Wink


(This post was edited by Bond-Of-Blood on Sep 14 2010, 9:27am)


Eruonen
Valinor

Sep 14 2010, 6:23pm

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Brian Blessed is perfect as one of the "strong" lead Dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/1068/697/875/002/brian_blessed.jpg

http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/brian-blessed.jpg


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 14 2010, 6:35pm

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Indeed he does [In reply to] Can't Post

I just have to exorcise the memory of Boss Nass (shudder) and I'll be fine with him in The Hobbit. Wink

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: No I don't talk about my love life for a very good reason, and that reason is I don't have one. Which is very good news for the ladies-I am still available. I'm a heck of a catch, cos, er well look at it. I live in Slough, in a lovely house, with my parents. I have my own room, which I've had since yep, since I was born. That's seen a lot of action I tell you. Mainly dusting. I went to university for a year as well, before I dropped out, so I'm a quitter. So, er, form an orderly queue ladies.


dormouse
Half-elven

Sep 14 2010, 6:44pm

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I've always imagined [In reply to] Can't Post

.. Brian Blessed as Beorn. He's pretty bear-like even without make-up!


Eruonen
Valinor

Sep 14 2010, 7:24pm

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Good idea... [In reply to] Can't Post

Brian has the booming voice, the menacing look and would wear hair well.


Eruonen
Valinor

Sep 14 2010, 7:42pm

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I always associate him with Black Adder [In reply to] Can't Post

King Richard IV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_IV_of_England_(Blackadder)

King Richard IV: As the good Lord said: "Love thy neighbour as thyself, unless he's Turkish, in which case, kill the bastard!"

I can imagine Rowan Atkinson as a loathsome, scheming "Black Adder Hobbit"...Smeagol's cousin.


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Sep 14 2010, 7:45pm)


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 14 2010, 8:00pm

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Porthos [In reply to] Can't Post

The first time I saw Brian Blessed was in The Three Musketeers as Porthos. I think I'm the only person in this forum who hasn't seen Black Adder yet.

George Lucas made him do some teerrrrrrilbe things in The Phantom Menace. Wink

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.

Tim: No I don't talk about my love life for a very good reason, and that reason is I don't have one. Which is very good news for the ladies-I am still available. I'm a heck of a catch, cos, er well look at it. I live in Slough, in a lovely house, with my parents. I have my own room, which I've had since yep, since I was born. That's seen a lot of action I tell you. Mainly dusting. I went to university for a year as well, before I dropped out, so I'm a quitter. So, er, form an orderly queue ladies.


merlwynd
Rivendell


Sep 22 2010, 11:59am

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indeed [In reply to] Can't Post

indeed it was a......wellll......a blip!

MERLWYND


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell


Sep 25 2010, 7:09am

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Merlywynd.....unbelievable! [In reply to] Can't Post

Can you believe I just dropped another juicy morsel for the board to savour and discuss......
..... and it got quickly gobbled up by the carrion birds..! Crazy

I wonder how many more pieces of valuable information have been lost in the same fashion? Mad

I feel like I'm being treated like the little boy who cried wolf.... but I'm hunting with the pack! Tongue


merlwynd
Rivendell


Sep 25 2010, 7:45am

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again [In reply to] Can't Post

again - listen to this man peeps - hes in the know

MERLWYND
Bard's case to Thorin


merlwynd
Rivendell


Sep 25 2010, 11:48am

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it... [In reply to] Can't Post

I am sure it wont be long until some clarity fills this space!

MERLWYND
Bard's case to Thorin


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 25 2010, 2:55pm

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Easy there BoB [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of us live in the States and go to bed and sleep and... stuff. *looks for coffee*

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Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell


Sep 25 2010, 11:13pm

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I'm just wondering.... [In reply to] Can't Post

.....how long it will take until someone decides to CENSOR my outspoken and controversial opinions. Tongue

.....oh right..... already happened! Tongue


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 26 2010, 12:03am

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I was just sayin' I had to go to bed right as you brought up the female character.

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Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell


Sep 26 2010, 12:05am

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Hey Tim..... [In reply to] Can't Post

That wasnt directed at you.... sorry! Evil


Tim
Tol Eressea


Sep 26 2010, 12:08am

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No worries at all [In reply to] Can't Post

And don't feel censored speak yo mind. Differences of opinion and multiple sources of information are what make this place interesting.

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Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.


Bregolas
The Shire


Oct 11 2010, 4:39pm

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the necromancer [In reply to] Can't Post

Why are there actors even being suggested for the part of the Necromancer? Isn't he in fact the Witchking of Angmar, a wraith, and thus faceless? I think giving him a face/personality would elicit some geek-tantrums from myself and perhaps a few others.

If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 11 2010, 9:23pm

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The Necromancer is Sauron.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Bregolas
The Shire


Oct 12 2010, 1:40am

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Don't I feel foolish! [In reply to] Can't Post

The same goes for Sauron though.

If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 12 2010, 2:16am

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Easy mistake [In reply to] Can't Post

One of the nine took over after Sauron relocated to Mordor.

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Rayown
Registered User

Oct 14 2010, 4:13pm

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Clancy Brown as Smaug and Patrick Stewart as Thorin [In reply to] Can't Post

Really excited to see Clancy Brown at the top of that list!! Laugh I thought he would be the perfect choice! :D and the same goes for Patrick Stewart as Thorin. He would be AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!Smile[


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 14 2010, 4:16pm

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Warp 9 to the Lonely Mountain and load photon torpedoes! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thar be dragons here!

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esgaldel
Registered User

Oct 16 2010, 12:47am

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Brian Blessed for Thorin!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Brian Blessed WOULD BE PERFECT for the role of Thorin. When I was reading the book a long time ago, I had him on my mind all the time. Prince Vultan rules!!!!


Patty
Immortal


Oct 16 2010, 9:56am

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Best of luck to all who are attempting to get a role in The Hobbit... [In reply to] Can't Post

it'll be the opportunity of a lifetime and would always be something you could look back on and be proud of.

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Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 17 2010, 2:17am

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Martin Freeman is Bilbo from the main page per Simon Pegg [In reply to] Can't Post

I believe I would bet $500 that Martin Freeman is the next Bilbo Baggins. Anyways no need for a question mark on the headline Simon Pegg just outed him point blank. Curious it wasn't put on the message board, maybe they wanted it here?

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Bregolas
The Shire


Oct 17 2010, 3:58am

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Clancy Brown? I disagree. (respectfully of course) [In reply to] Can't Post

From the way the book describes Smaug, I've always imagined him having a very charming, insidious, maybe even seductive voice. Clancy doesn't pull that off.

If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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Voorhas
Lorien


Oct 17 2010, 5:35am

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Interesting... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I started reading the article assuming that Pegg was taking the mickey, but it's stated as a matter of fact in the piece.

Who knows? If they're friends, it's possible Pegg is in on the secret.


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 17 2010, 10:52am

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Yeah [In reply to] Can't Post

At the same time we've heard they have been auditioning back-up choices (unknowns) if Freeman wouldn't make it.





macfalk
Valinor


Oct 17 2010, 10:54am

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The dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

Clearly the hardest to cast. GDT said he will develope all thirteen reasonably much but I have my doubts of how that will work. I wonder if Bifur, Bofur, Dwalin etc will be seen as extras and just "follow along".





(This post was edited by macfalk on Oct 17 2010, 10:55am)


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 17 2010, 11:51am

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How about Doppy, Sleepy & Grumpy? [In reply to] Can't Post

It only takes a couple of good lines to establish a character even if they remain primarily in the background.

Kangi Ska Resident Cynic

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 17 2010, 1:26pm

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Clancy Brown has got range [In reply to] Can't Post

He played an evil scientist in the classic Crash Bandicoot games and his voice there sounds completely different to his usual work. I don't think there's any role he couldn't pull off.


ringer5150
The Shire


Oct 17 2010, 6:20pm

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Pegg just tweeted [In reply to] Can't Post

Here's is his tweet:

"Woah, woah, woah I did NOT confirm Martin Freeman was in The Hobbit. As far as I know, talks are ongoing. Hope he is. Great choice"

Maybe Guillermo was meant to just write the hobbit and PJ was meant to direct it. And that is an encouraging thought.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 17 2010, 6:45pm

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Hmm... [In reply to] Can't Post

Damage control, perhaps? I think Pegg may have let slip more than he meant to in his previous tweet and now he's trying to cover it up...


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 17 2010, 6:55pm

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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

unless he's misquoted in the article he very clearly says Martin Freeman is in The Hobbit. We'll see soon I'm sure.

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Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 17 2010, 7:40pm

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I have an idea for Smaug [In reply to] Can't Post

And I'm sure others have shared this idea. What if Smaug's voice was a fusion of a male and female voice - like the Angel of Death in Hellboy 2? It would give Smaug an otherwordly, inhuman, and almost androgynous voice.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 17 2010, 8:03pm

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I was thinking poached in lake water and served with a nice green salad.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Bird Brain

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Voorhas
Lorien


Oct 17 2010, 8:15pm

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Probably... [In reply to] Can't Post

...it does sound like he's trying to walk it back.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 17 2010, 8:18pm

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Perhaps the fact [In reply to] Can't Post

that Martin Freeman will be playing Bilbo has been known behind the scenes for so long that actors are starting to forget they're not meant to mention it.


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Oct 17 2010, 10:10pm

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sounds possible // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


The wide world is all about you:
you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out

You can only come to the morning through the shadows


sticklebat
Lorien


Oct 18 2010, 1:22am

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Clancy Brown... [In reply to] Can't Post

I could see him as Beorn but not Smaug.


rings7
Rohan


Oct 18 2010, 3:59am

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Has anyone posted this? [In reply to] Can't Post

This came out today. Empire says Deadline says Freeman will be Bilbo. I know it sounds like the phone game but they say that it simply hasn't been made "official".

Here are the links:

http://www.empireonline.com/.../story.asp?NID=29224

http://www.deadline.com/...filming-in-february/

If i put this along with Simon Pegg's slip.....i don't know. I guess i'm dreaming too much.


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 18 2010, 4:12am

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Yes and no [In reply to] Can't Post

Both of those articles basically repeat rumors that have been circulating the internet and have been posted here in one form or another.

Thanks to you and everyone who are keeping their eyes open and posting the various updates as you find them! Smile


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Rayown
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Oct 18 2010, 4:23am

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I never thought of that. [In reply to] Can't Post

I can see that too. Hmmm....I wonder who they'll pick! Smile

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Rayown
Registered User

Oct 18 2010, 4:25am

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DUDE!! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I always imagined Hugh Jackman as Bard, with the dark hair, kind of a rugged Leopold from Kate and Leopold. But Clancy would pull off a pretty impressive Bard!!!Smile

"Not all those who wander are lost..."


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 18 2010, 8:39am

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Interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

Also caught this

"Also looking likely is James Nesbitt, who, according to Pajiba’s Twitter feed, has already being offered a role - that of Bofur, one of the three dwarfs who accompany Bilbo on his quest. "


Good research! Cool





(This post was edited by macfalk on Oct 18 2010, 8:39am)


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 18 2010, 10:07am

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One of the THREE dwarves? [In reply to] Can't Post

Yikes! I sure hope people don't latch on to this typo... it could lead to some scary rumours Angelic



ranger123
Rivendell

Oct 18 2010, 10:59am

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I may have some new casting news [In reply to] Can't Post

Working on getting some confirmation.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 18 2010, 11:30am

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You know...Sleepy, Dopy & Doc. Off to slay Puff the Magic Dragon. ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Bird Brain

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 18 2010, 11:35am

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So, you work in TV Network advertising? [In reply to] Can't Post

And that is the rest of the story.Cool

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Patty
Immortal


Oct 18 2010, 11:42am

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Confirmation? Who needs confirmation? [In reply to] Can't Post

We also thrive on RUMORS. They fly through these threads and ignite us like lightning.Laugh

Whatcha got?

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ranger123
Rivendell

Oct 18 2010, 11:46am

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Haha, no afraid not, but here is the rumor.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Irish actor Aidan Turner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2636108/) may be playing the role of both Fili & Kili

I don't have any confirmation or links to prove that yet but there you go.


Patty
Immortal


Oct 18 2010, 11:48am

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oh wow, thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

 I hope they don't chose to make Kili and Fili nice looking (for dwarves). There should be no dwarven heart-throbs.

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(This post was edited by Patty on Oct 18 2010, 11:50am)


dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 18 2010, 1:03pm

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I think we're probably safe there.... [In reply to] Can't Post

... it's a bit hard to cause cardiac throbbing from behind a great splodge of prosthetic face mask and a very, very long beard!

On the casting front there seems to be a growing tide of mentions of David Tennant for 'an unnamed role'. Wonder what it could be?


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 18 2010, 1:08pm

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David Tennant... I suddenly see him as Thranduil... though it'd be weird to imagine Orlando as his son ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 18 2010, 1:44pm

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He certainly has the build and looks for an elf... [In reply to] Can't Post

... and he's a really good actor. I'd be happy to see him in the film, it was just the idea of him as a hobbit that seemed bizarre.


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 18 2010, 1:46pm

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Yeah I know... [In reply to] Can't Post

... if they're going for someone with "hobbity" mannerisms AND someone who resembles Sir Ian Holm, I personally believe Martin Freeman is the guy Smile



Nesse
Lorien

Oct 18 2010, 2:08pm

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yep I read that too! [In reply to] Can't Post

Im sure its a typo or some kinda mistake cos that would cause mayhem if it were true, I know MGM are short of cash but this is rediculous.


Nesse
Lorien

Oct 18 2010, 2:14pm

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sorry this my previous post was in reply to... [In reply to] Can't Post

"Also looking likely is James Nesbitt, who, according to Pajiba’s Twitter feed, has already being offered a role - that of Bofur, one of the three dwarfs who accompany Bilbo on his quest. "


dormouse
Half-elven

Oct 18 2010, 2:22pm

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Yes... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I did a double-take when I saw that, then assumed that the writer didn't know much about The Hobbit. After all, if you were whittling the thirteen dwarves down to three, I don't think you'd pick Bofur, would you? I think it's quite interesting that an actor has been rumoured for Bofur at all - it suggests that they're trying to bring out the individual characters of the 'lesser' dwarves.


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 18 2010, 3:24pm

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Agreed Dormouse, Bofur is one of those "mute" dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

If I had to press it down to 3 dwarves, I would take Thorin, Balin and Bombur. Certainly not Bofur!





(This post was edited by macfalk on Oct 18 2010, 3:25pm)


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 18 2010, 4:10pm

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Did you think Cate Blanchett as Liv Tyler's granny was weird too? [In reply to] Can't Post

Smile


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 18 2010, 4:15pm

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Doug Jones talks The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.bleedingcool.com/...ankenstein-and-more/

Here's an interview with Doug Jones. It was made after the greenlight announcement, but there's not much new info. They talk about The Hobbit for the first few minutes. Apparently Guillermo never told *anyone* which role he had planned for Jones, and no one (including Jones and del Toro) knows if he's still up for a part. However, Jones is still interested in appearing in the films; he says he hopes Peter Jackson 'remembers' him. I think there's hope yet...


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 18 2010, 5:30pm

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They are elves. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska Resident Bird Brain

The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Greenwood Hobbit
Grey Havens


Oct 18 2010, 10:41pm

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John Hurt [In reply to] Can't Post

is currently voicing a very convincing dragon in 'Merlin' - but it wouldn't do to have Smaug sounding like he lurked around Camelot. Ooh - Mark Gatiss? He can do silky menace very well.


ranger123
Rivendell


Oct 18 2010, 11:09pm

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Cast announcement "expected shortly"! [In reply to] Can't Post

A spokesman for New Line cinema refused to confirm any casting details, saying that "nothing is finalised", but added that an announcement was expected shortly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/freeman-to-lead-british-invasion-into-middle-earth-2110275.html


rings7
Rohan


Oct 19 2010, 12:31am

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oh god [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
A spokesman for New Line cinema refused to confirm any casting details, saying that "nothing is finalised", but added that an announcement was expected shortly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/freeman-to-lead-british-invasion-into-middle-earth-2110275.html



*biting nails*Crazy


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 19 2010, 1:27am

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"Shortly" [In reply to] Can't Post

In studio speak is probably another month or two.

Course, I'd love to be wrong.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 19 2010, 1:35am

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Well anything's possible [In reply to] Can't Post

but if they're really starting in February they don't have that long they have to start carting people over to New Zealand asap.

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Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.


rings7
Rohan


Oct 19 2010, 2:40am

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Not necessarily [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
In studio speak is probably another month or two.

Course, I'd love to be wrong.



I've heard of casting announcements from other films before, when the movie itself won't start filming till a few more months ahead.

If they're starting in February, they need to secure cast now, unless they wanna wait till one month before which is nonsense.


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 19 2010, 6:02am

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Cate has this "timelessness" about her... [In reply to] Can't Post

... which totally makes her believable as Liv's grandmother, besides that fact that (in Sam's words) she seems both "old and young" Smile



Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 19 2010, 4:04pm

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Assuming they're filming in NZ at all... [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 19 2010, 6:04pm

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I would have auditioned for Roac [In reply to] Can't Post

But the makeup would be a problem.

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At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Eruonen
Valinor

Oct 19 2010, 6:52pm

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I am just happy we are talking about casting.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I have great faith whoever is picked will do a terrific job.

Kangi...what is the origin of your Avatar?


Gimilkhad
The Shire

Oct 19 2010, 7:37pm

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Yes, at last... [In reply to] Can't Post

...it's starting to feel like 1999 again!


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 19 2010, 7:48pm

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I still think [In reply to] Can't Post

Mickey Rourke would make an excellent Beorn.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 19 2010, 8:07pm

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Mickey Rourke? [In reply to] Can't Post

I have just barely recovered from his poor Russian performance in Iron Man 2, please don't subject me to him in The Hobbit. I'll have nine and half weeks of shudders. Wink

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Tim: There are some who call me... Tim?


Gimilkhad
The Shire

Oct 19 2010, 8:22pm

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When Guillermo was directing [In reply to] Can't Post

I really expected Ron Perlman as Beorn, he's Guillermos old friend and he plays bulky animalistic characters so well.

Still hoping.


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 19 2010, 8:29pm

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Rourke? No,no,no as far away as possible please. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


duats
Grey Havens

Oct 19 2010, 8:33pm

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I will admit to the poor Iron Man 2 performance [In reply to] Can't Post

But I'm judging him based on his talent as a whole. The man has range and intensity.


Calafalas
Bree

Oct 20 2010, 2:24am

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4 Scottish lads for dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

Just found this. "Peter Mullan, Ewan Stewart, Gary Lewis and Gilly Gilchrist are in the running for roles as dwarves in The Hobbit" http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/...-up-for-Hobbit-film/ Some of them have already been in a few movies together. Perhaps they will mix well together creating that same sort of fellowship that our beloved actors from LOTR did.

 
 

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