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MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 10:08am
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A summary of 'The Hobbit' casting discussion so far
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"The Hobbit," has to be cast but that just leaves more time for fans to speculate, guess and suggest about the casting of the two-films planned by producer Peter Jackson and director Guillermo del Toro. There are a few givens. According to the decision makers, as many of the main characters that appear in both Jackson's LOTR trilogy and GDT's Hobbit films will be cast using existing actors from those roles as possible. And while media outlets trying to create news about the film have asked any actor they can find if they will appear, the list of sure crossovers are relatively small. Ian Holm, approaching 80 years old, has stated that he is too old to play Bilbo because of the physical demands of the role and the required relocation to New Zealand. So the search for the main character is on. Most readers will be familiar with characters like Gandalf that belong to actors such as Ian McKellen so they will not be rehashed here because there is no debate about who will fill the role. Other roles are open to speculation such as Aragorn's role from the LOTR appendices that might be used to flesh out parts of the two-movie set planned for December 2011 and 2012. While a few names have likely been missed here and there, we present the suggestions from TheOneRing.net's message boards. Check back soon on our "The Pollantir" section of our message boards for some unscientific voting. Please forgive any errors, there was a lot of information to be dealt with here. Balin Brian Blessed Kenneth Branagh Brian Cox Neil Flyn Dominic Purcell Angus Macfadyen Bard Richard Armitage Christian Bale Gerard Butler Jim Caviezel Daniel Craig Henry Iain Cusick SirDennisC (message boards) Jack Davenport Johnny Depp Michael Fassbender Ralph Fiennes Ioan Gruffudd Martin Henderson Hugh Jackman Doug Jones Thomas Kretschmann Daniel Day Lewis David O’Hara Gary Oldman Clive Owen Adrian Pasdar Guy Pearce James Purefoy Dominic Purcell Toby Stephens Beorn Brian Blessed Lawrence Fishburne Nick Frost Christopher Guest Gary Lewis Liam Neeson Ron Perlman Pete Postlethwaite Geoffrey Rush Guy Sprung Ray Stevenson Bert (troll) Tim McInnerny Ray Winstone Bifur Alfred Molina Hugh Laurie Bilbo Baggins Liam Aiken Hugh Bonneville Martin Freeman Ryan Gosling Tom Hollander Bob Hoskins Michael Hurst Eddie Izzard Toby Jones Shia Lebouef William H. Macy Tobey Maguire James McAvoy Sam Neil Sean Pertwee Reece Shearsmith Michael Sheen David Tennant Bofur Mark Hamill Bombur Jack Black Jorge Garcia Paul Giamatti Richard Griffiths Jonah Hill Oliver Platt Dain James Cosmo Timothy Spall Ray Winstone Dori Dara O’Briain Tom Waits Drogo Robbie Coltraine Dwalin Brenden Gleeson Dwarves (general) Jack Black Bill Baily Robbie Coltraine Brian Cox Russell Crowe Warwick Davis Stephen Fry Phillip Seymour Hoffman Derek Jacobi Ken Jenkins Angus Macfadyen Alfred Molina Ron Perlman Jonathan Pryce Geoffrey Rush Timothy Spall Ethan Suplee David Tennant Nick Frost Gloin Billy Connelly John Rhys-Davies Nicholas Lyndhurst Goblin King / Great Goblin Doug Jones Tyler Mane Ron Perlman Kili Kelsey Grammar Simon Peg Necromancer James Woods Nori Phil Jupitus Kevin McNally Oin Stephen Fry Kevin McNally David Jason Ori Alan Davies Nathan Lane Primula Zooey Deschanel Master / Lord of Laketown Dustin Hoffman Anthony Hopkins Alan Rickman Geoffrey Rush Stanley Tucci Radagast Richard E Grant Smaug (voice) Clancy Brown James Caan George Clooney Brian Cox Marton Csokas Tim Curry Vin Diesel Sam Elliott Jonathan Freeman Morgan Freeman Bruno Ganz Terry Gilliam Mark Hamill Djimon Hounsou Anthony HopkinsJohn Hurt Jeremy Irons Jason Isaacs Tommy Lee Jones Ben Kingsley Robert Lindsay Meat Loaf Ulrich Matthes Alfred Molina John Noble Peter O’Toole Edward James Elmos Leslie Phillips Wayne Pygram Alan Rickman Geoffrey Rush Rodrigo Santoro Andy Serkis Martin Shaw Stellan Skarsgard Patrick Stewart Kathleen Turner Nichol Williamson Michael Wincott Spiders of Mirkwood Cindy Lauper Fran Drescher Thorin Oakenshield Brian Blessed Jim Carter Billy Connelly Brian Cox Kenneth Cranham Brenden Gleeson Alfred Molina Ron Perlman David Hyde Pierce Geoffrey Rush Patrick Stewart Tom Wilkenson Ray Winstone Tom (troll) Rowan Atkinson Jason Statham Thranduil Richard Armitage Paul Bettany David Bowie Timothy Dalton James Duvall Ralph Fiennes William Fichtner Luke Goss Rhys Ifans Jason Isaacs Guy Pearce Zachary Quinto Patrick Stewart William (troll) Vinnie Jones
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Apr 13 2009, 11:19am
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It must have taken you forever to put that together! Thanks for that great piece of work! I've lost track of suggestions long ago.
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Apr 13 2009, 11:44am
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That is a mighty list MrCere! Thankyou so much! WOW! What a line-up. ... umm, but where's Russell Crowe for Beorn or Master of Lake Town? (see year old footer below) I see he has been relegated to the Dwarve section in the list I think we're also missing Brian Steele as one of the 3 Trolls or the Goblin King Yippeee - cant wait to see the real list! Cheers MrCere Elven x
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Apr 13 2009, 12:48pm
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... just how did you find the time and patience to put that list together. There must be over a 100 links in there Okay, so I was busy clicking links and getting all dreamy about the fact that one of these actors *might* actually be officially named one of these months, and then I reach SirD, and after a few moments of complete befuddlement, I'm jarred out of my dreamy state and find myself trying to rein my laughing self in I really need to be on the lookout for you sneaky little naughties here on TORn... never know when you guys will turn about
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Kelvarhin
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Apr 13 2009, 12:54pm
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SirDennis was suggested for the role of Bard in this post Oh and it's good to see you on facebook too *huggles* Kel
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Earl
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Apr 13 2009, 1:05pm
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... to cast my vote for Sir Bard? Thanks Kel, didn't see that thread before, I was rather overwhelmed by all the casting suggestions and I've been waiting for the official ones for a long time now. SirD looks so Bardy in that pic *psst* I sent you a lil' giftie on FB (why are my sentences weirdly rhyming? )
Crows and Gibbets! What is the House of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek and their brats roll around on the floor with the dogs? You are but a lesser son of greater sires!
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Kelvarhin
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Apr 13 2009, 1:12pm
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you could ask a nice mod to change it for you if you like He does doesn't he? Really??! Oooo will have to head over and have a look! Thank you It's the time of night dear, hits us all eventually *hugs* Kel x
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Apr 13 2009, 1:20pm
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Where`s Russell Crowe for Beorn?
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Great list but you omitted Rusty!
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 13 2009, 2:25pm
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*Mods WAY up!* omg... I'm staggered!
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You REELy got me with this list! WOW! I'll be back after going through this, but I just had to finish saying "WOW!" first... "Wow!"
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Apr 13 2009, 3:20pm
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Fantastic job! Thanks for doing that...
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Runk Snusgrop
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Apr 13 2009, 3:28pm
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Re: A summary of 'The Hobbit' casting discussion so far
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Brian Blessed! Hell yes! I have made my mark, my work here is DONE!
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Timdalf
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Apr 13 2009, 3:58pm
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First you need to correct the spelling of Nicol Williamson's name under Smaug... And he would be an excellent choice. Please add to yoru list for Bilbo my vote for Paul Giamatti...
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MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 5:11pm
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I am not a moderator of the message boards and don't have "mod power" so I can change the front page news list but I can't change the one on the message boards. Mods will need to discuss and determine if this particular list gets updated and if so, who will do the job. My ten minute window to edit is closed.
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MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 5:21pm
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I didn't check footers and must have missed him elsewhere. He is added to the front-page story, I am helpless to add him to the discussion on the message boards.
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Apr 13 2009, 6:56pm
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Great to read all those name. Already spend a few minutes (maybe more) just looking. Thanks for putting all those together, must have taken you a while. I'm off speculating even more.
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Timdalf
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Apr 14 2009, 12:02am
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OF COURSE! We should have thought of this before... There is only ONE, yes ONE possibility... And this explains his not taking the director's chair: PETER JACKSON, himself!!! Who else??
Timothy Fisher alias "Timdalf" "... The Word of God Himself, He, indeed, assumed humanity that we might become as God..." St. Athanasius of Alexandria "On the Incarnation" The fear of the end is the source of all lovelessness. Richard Wagner's Letters Saruman: Can we not have peace, you and I? King Theoden: We shall have peace. (pause) When you answer for the burning of the Westfold. And the children that lie dead there. We shall have peace when the lives of the soldiers whose bodies were hewn even as they lay dead against the Hornburg are avenged. When you hang from a gibbet for the sport of your own crows, we shall have peace. Tolkien - "The Return of the King" Frodo: It is a pity Bilbo did not kill Gollum when he had the chance. Gandalf: Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? (Frodo frowns.) Do not be so eager to deal out death in judgment, even the very wise cannot see all ends. Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened. Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given us. There are other forces at work in the world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Tolkien - "The Fellowship of the Ring"
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Uruk-Hai
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Apr 14 2009, 1:48am
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jim carter for any dwarf martin freeman as bilbo
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geoboy
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Apr 14 2009, 4:19am
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The only addition I would make would be for Donald Sutherland as Smaug. He did an orange juice commercial and after I heard it i had an uncontrollable compulsion to drink OJ. Oh yeah, and Martin Freeman as Bilbo is win.
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Shagrat
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Apr 14 2009, 10:02am
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I think James Cosmo should be added for Thorin or Balin and Julian Sands added for Thranduil; but aside from that its a pretty comprehensive list at this stage.
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Sunflower
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Apr 14 2009, 2:34pm
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MrCere, I hope this thread NEVER gets deleted--it should have a permanent sticky until filming begins--and then it should go into the storied TORN vaults, never to be forgotten! There will be in ages to come, times when oft we may feel the desire to revisit this list, and muse upon the horrors of What Could Have Been. Was there a similar compilation list thread for LOTR before the cast was revealed? SirDennisC--can't stop laughing!!!!
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Sunflower
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Apr 14 2009, 2:56pm
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that until he was officially rejected for the role, there were more than a few fans who wanted Doug Jones to be Thranduil, and speculated about this for months. And not just on TORN.
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Apr 14 2009, 4:27pm
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Bilbo: William H. Macy Gandalf: Clint Eastwood Thorin Oakenshield: Ben Kingsley Balin: Scott Grimes Bombur: Michael Cudlitz Dwalin: Rick Gomez Gloin: Ross McCall Bifur: Robin Laing Bofur: Nicolas Aaron Dori: George Calil Nori: Rene Moreno Ori: Douglas Spain Oin: Eion Bailey Kili: Craig Heaney Fili: Mark Huberman The Trolls: Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Martin Short The Great Goblin: David Bowie Beorn: Liam Neeson King Thranduil: Stellan Skarsgĺrd Bard the Bowman: Joseph Fiennes Smaug: Margaret Avery Lord of the Eagles: Sam Elliot Bilbo's Eagle: Zoë Wanamaker Roac son of Carc: John Hurt Master of Laketown: Wallace Shawn Dain: Simon Callow Drogo: Alec Baldwin Primula: Geena Davis Radagast: Patrick Stewart Necromancer: Jonathan Pryce
****************************************** The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 14 2009, 4:39pm
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I have a couple more for Thorin or a Dwarf
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Bob Hoskins (Who Framed Roger Rabbit); and Bill (William) Nighy. He played Davy Jones in the PotC films. He also played Sam in the BBC Radio adaptation with Ian Holm's Frodo. What a perfect round-about that would be :)
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Apr 14 2009, 5:42pm
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...some great insight & speculation you've drummed up...(yeah, we're ALL bored)...thx for adding something interesting & worthwhile reading...quite refreshing. I would love to see Brian Blessed as Thorin...just as Phillipa Boyens said of John Rhys- Davies,"...if you want to explain to an audience about the culture of Dwarves, you cast (John)as the Dwarf and he'll TELL you, he'll SHOW you, he'll bring that culture to life for you..." The same, I think can be said of Brian Blessed...I think, he IS Thorin. Just as a side note...I don't need to see Russell Crowe in this movie...sorry, ladies n laddies...aren't there enough talking thrushes & ravens already?
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Apr 14 2009, 5:53pm
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No Colin Firth for Bilbo? I thought that was a pretty popular one...
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Nickey08
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Apr 14 2009, 6:02pm
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What a fantastic and well-thought-out selection for Smaug!!!!! I'd have trouble choosing between any of those fantastic "pipes"! It almost makes me wonder if poor old GDT should hold his own "Hobbit Idol" to try to find someone completely new that we've never heard or seen previously...
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sherlock
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Apr 14 2009, 7:17pm
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elvish looking!
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sherlock
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Apr 14 2009, 7:18pm
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for the voice of Smaug? I thought for sure I'd read that suggestion here. That's my personal favorite right now.
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Apr 14 2009, 9:19pm
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has the "dark of hair and grim of face" look of Bard...and might be considered 'hot' enough by those who care about such things in casting.
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Ermanatar
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Apr 15 2009, 7:13am
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This was great. I would like to see Donald Sutherland as Smaug, though. I think most of my choices landed on the list. We definitely need to keep this thread going until casting time. Just to see how close we came and how much GDT heard us. Play LOTRO!!! Find me, Ermanatar Silverleaf of Dale on the Silverlode server!!!
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Ermanatar
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Apr 15 2009, 7:31am
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TOTALLY have to agree!!! Donald's voice has that air of confidence and power, truly! And yes, Martin Freeman simply IS Bilbo!!!
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hobbitgoddess
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Apr 16 2009, 2:21am
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The Good, The Bad, and the WTF's
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People keep suggesting people to cast for Bilbo to old or to young. He's...what, 50 in the books. In the movies you can make a character younger and it will still be accepted. But a teenager (looking at the person who suggested Liem Aiken)! Yeah hell no. Yes Elijah was 18...ish I think when he played Frodo, but that worked because Frodo is a whiny character anyway. Bilbo is a overly mature, scared-y cat. People need to stop dreaming that Bilbo will be sexy teenager who they can use in fanfictoin and start sticking closer to the books. We've got the pretty boys (James McAvoy, and Tobey Maquire) the if-you-wanna-be-like-the-animated-movie (Toby Jones) and the evil Bilbo's (Tom Hollander). Some suggestions are kind scary. I like the unknown people like Reece Sheersmith. But I am generally biased anyway. Martin Freeman is my favorite of the candidates. David Tennant wouldn't be bad either. And lastly, who suggested Liam Aiken? ( I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I would like to be able to enjoy this movie too)
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Ermanatar
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Bilbo: William H. Macy Gandalf: Clint Eastwood Thorin Oakenshield: Ben Kingsley Balin: Scott Grimes Bombur: Michael Cudlitz Dwalin: Rick Gomez Gloin: Ross McCall Bifur: Robin Laing Bofur: Nicolas Aaron Dori: George Calil Nori: Rene Moreno Ori: Douglas Spain Oin: Eion Bailey Kili: Craig Heaney Fili: Mark Huberman The Trolls: Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Martin Short The Great Goblin: David Bowie Beorn: Liam Neeson King Thranduil: Stellan Skarsgĺrd Bard the Bowman: Joseph Fiennes Smaug: Margaret Avery Lord of the Eagles: Sam Elliot Bilbo's Eagle: Zoë Wanamaker Roac son of Carc: John Hurt Master of Laketown: Wallace Shawn Dain: Simon Callow Drogo: Alec Baldwin Primula: Geena Davis Radagast: Patrick Stewart Necromancer: Jonathan Pryce PLAY LOTRO!!! Find me, Ermanatar Silverleaf of Dale on the Silverlode server!!!
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Ermanatar
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Yes! I would TOTALLY have to agree with this! Some of the suggestions I've seen on here are simply balderdash. Bilbo is a HOBBIT, not some sexy hot teenage actor. Shia LeBeouf??? Liem Aiken??? Tobey Maguire??? C'MON PEOPLE!!! Bilbo isn't supposed to invoke dirty thoughts in the minds of young teenage girls folks. People keep suggesting people to cast for Bilbo to old or to young. He's...what, 50 in the books. In the movies you can make a character younger and it will still be accepted. But a teenager (looking at the person who suggested Liem Aiken)! Yeah hell no. Yes Elijah was 18...ish I think when he played Frodo, but that worked because Frodo is a whiny character anyway. Bilbo is a overly mature, scared-y cat. People need to stop dreaming that Bilbo will be sexy teenager who they can use in fanfictoin and start sticking closer to the books. We've got the pretty boys (James McAvoy, and Tobey Maquire) the if-you-wanna-be-like-the-animated-movie (Toby Jones) and the evil Bilbo's (Tom Hollander). Some suggestions are kind scary. I like the unknown people like Reece Sheersmith. But I am generally biased anyway. Martin Freeman is my favorite of the candidates. David Tennant wouldn't be bad either. And lastly, who suggested Liam Aiken? ( I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I would like to be able to enjoy this movie too) PLAY LOTRO!!! Find me, Ermanatar Silverleaf of Dale on the Silverlode server!!!
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call Frodo's character 'whiny'. It didn't come through so well in the movies, because that part was changed to build up Arwen, but in the book he defied all of the Nine at the Ford of Bruinen, even though he was already injured and weakened. Considering how experienced warriors cringed when they heard only *one* Nazgul, that was just amazing. And even in the movies, he was never whiny.
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Henoluin Elsilim
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Apr 16 2009, 8:37pm
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It must have taken you HOURS to put this all together! Thanks so much for doing it! I wonder what the chances are of one of these people actually getting to play the roles they were picked for? Again, thanks for putting this together!
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MrCere
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Apr 16 2009, 8:58pm
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It will be fun to look at this post-casting and see what happened. We listed SO many people that somebody will surely be cast somewhere!
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Sunflower
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Apr 16 2009, 10:40pm
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And now that Mike Mignola has left for NZ (and presumably has arrived there by now), I dropped a note to Parker on DTF, asking him what body part of Mr. Mignola's he could twist in order to get him to cough up some Guillermo news soon.
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Nazgul_Kidney
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Apr 16 2009, 11:42pm
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I would like to see Abe Benrudi and John Goodmen in there as dwarves. I am also free, for a cool cameo just sent the plane tickets. Brendon Gleeson, Robbie Coltrane also sound good. I could see that fellow from nixon frost takin over for Christopher Lee. Dont know his name he was in Dave too. I wouldnt mind seeing John Cusack as Bard though I can see Bale doing well. I like the idea of Sean Pertwee as Bilbo. Though i like the idea of him playing his dads version of the Doctor in a retro 60's/70's scifi big budget Dr. Who movie much more.
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Gorfindel
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Apr 17 2009, 6:11pm
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John Hurt? i think he would make an excellent Balin. He has worked with GDT before and I think he could portray Balins relationship with Bilbo incredibly well.
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mulubinba
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Apr 20 2009, 6:11am
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Great list & Bard casting (Armitage)
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Thanks so much for this list! As for the casting of Bard, it is great to see Richard Armitage listed as one of the suggestions. (Unfortunately the photos on his IMDb page are not comprehensive). Here is a screencap from his latest role:
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SirDennisC
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Apr 20 2009, 8:13pm
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to thank the academy that is! I feel greatly honoured to be on the list as it were. Still, my money remains on Thomas Kretschman.
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Arwen_Undomiel
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Apr 22 2009, 2:13am
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Bryan Blessed looks like a good Balin
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Mae Govannen! My Greetings! The world is quiet here.
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mykonos
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Apr 22 2009, 5:40am
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Love it
Thanks so much for this list! As for the casting of Bard, it is great to see Richard Armitage listed as one of the suggestions. (Unfortunately the photos on his IMDb page are not comprehensive). Here is a screencap from his latest role:
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MrCere
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Your screen name certainly caught my eye. I have been to the beautiful island of Mykonos, is your name related to the place? Be welcome and enjoy TORn.
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sticklebat
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Apr 22 2009, 3:54pm
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...would make a much better Thorin, he's got this deep booming, commanding, authoritative way of speaking & acting...or even Beorn. Either role, he'd be awesome.
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Apr 22 2009, 8:57pm
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Look at you! Being all organized and stuff =)
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Seriously, thank you for this. It's especially useful for me since I haven't been here through the whole discussion. It is nice to get a quick summary of the ideas that have worked their way around the board.
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SirDennisC
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Apr 22 2009, 9:01pm
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*Motown's 50th don't ya know. No really it is great that the old thread was finally cut loose. This one is by far more readable and exciting.
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Arwen_Undomiel
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Apr 23 2009, 1:38am
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Mae Govannen! My Greetings! The world is quiet here.
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flodwyns
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Apr 23 2009, 3:07pm
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some fantastic suggestions here.......particularly Brian Blessed as Balin and Martin Freeman for Bilbo. I'd like to add another name to the mix.....Lee Boardman for one of the dwarves....but as for Bard the Bowman, how much further does one need to look? Richard Armitage of course!
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Apr 23 2009, 6:57pm
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to illustrate my point. ... Somewhat. Rufus Sewell for Bard!
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Apr 30 2009, 11:49am
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Richard for Bard...Yes Yes Yes
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I agree with you totally Mulubinba...there can be NO OTHER choice! Richard Armitage was BORN to be a Tolkien hero!! He is a great actor and very versatile, and as the photos prove, his looks are perfect for the role!!
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Destrier
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Apr 30 2009, 6:17pm
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You're so right, Mulubinba, Mrs Bard, Flodwyns and everyone else dying to see Richard Armitage as Bard - he'd be utterly perfect! He does grim and noble better than anyone...
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Apr 30 2009, 8:53pm
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everyone's talking this RA guy
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but too me the guy that i see in these photos is too young to be the beaten down, seeing ill-omens in everything, grim character from the books. too much like a young ranger for my tastes.
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Destrier
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May 1 2009, 2:44pm
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RA is not far off 40, weathertop - just the right age for a warrior in his prime. And (judging by his latest appearances on our TV screens) he does "grim and beaten-down" better than anyone I've seen. But remember, though Bard is at first seen as a grim and beaten-down seer of ill omens, he soon proves to be much more than that. He is a far-seeing and inspiring leader of men, courageous and skilled in battle, noble in his dealings with the dwarves, forgiving and generous! No wonder his men proudly take the name of "Bardings" after he becomes King of Dale.
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May 1 2009, 6:08pm
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posted here are all i have to go by. never seen him in 'action'. but if he's forty, he looks great. i wouldn't have put him past thirty.
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May 2 2009, 2:38am
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As much as a fan of the whole Tolkien world I am; I'm not much on keeping updated about things in the "real world", and had no idea The Hobbit was going to be made into a film. Fantastic!!!!! Something to look forward to for sure I spend most all of my computer time on a boxing forum and that's about it; so I'm glad I joined this site to get in touch with what's going on. Apologies if this is a somewhat rambling post
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sticklebat
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May 2 2009, 10:35pm
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of the existence of Richard Armitage til I heard him mentioned here....not exactly who I saw playing the role, but I'm sure he'd do a fine job...I never imagined Bard as being very 'noble' looking...Armitage looks like he'd suit Thranduil the Elvenking even better. I really like the look of Kevin McKidd or Clive Owen...but Richard could work. and LEGIONTX....your post was anything but rambling...very short & sweet actually...yup...December 2011, 2012, you'll see 'The Hobbit' on the big screen...very excited to see it, as are we all...welcome.
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May 7 2009, 11:38pm
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In many of the stills from LOTR I've often thought Ian Holm as Bilbo bore a strong resemblance to the actor who played the seventh Doctor Who. The interesting thing is that throughout his time in that series he was at the bottom in my list of favourites in the role of everyone's fave time lord. That was until his part in the US tv movie starring Paul McGann in the role. This taught me that he was a perfectly good actor, but that it was the series (Doctor Who) that had somehow gone downhill at the time, and not Sylv. Once made up as Bilbo, Ian Holm to me looks very similar to McCoy. I think Sylvester could carry it off with ease. He would certainly make a great hobbit anyway, but with his resemblence to Mr Holm, I think he'd be perfect. Oh, and Brian Blessed was born to be in a Tolkien based film. He should be signed up immediately, and then they can decide what he plays when they're ready!. Any hobbit or better still, dwarf, would be a walk in the park to him. My wife is reading his autobiography and he grew up in my area of England. Yorkshire to be precise, and between Barnsley and Rotherham to be even more precise. My home town of Hoyland is a stone's throw away from his stomping grounds of Goldthorpe, Mexbrough, Wentworth and Hoober Stand ( a local 'folly' or monument).
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Eruthurin
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May 9 2009, 7:26pm
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Thanks girls! He must be Bard!
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Mrs Bard, Destrier.. thanks for the pics... definitely this shows how a good Bard Richard could be.... Let's fill Guillermo's E-mail with this idea!!!!!!! hehehehee.... *kidding*
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Destrier
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May 11 2009, 3:49pm
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Glad you liked the pics, Eruthurin. (Who wouldn't???) Here are two more of RA looking grim, intense and very Bard-like... Anyway, this was certainly the way I imagined Bard as looking every time I read The Hobbit... and it was also exactly the way I pictured Aragorn when reading LotR!
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SirDennisC
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May 15 2009, 1:07am
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Jeremy Renner Agile and charming, now imagine mit a mop of curls. Tada!
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May 15 2009, 1:22am
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He does look pretty good doesn't he?
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Gerard Butler must have a role in The Hobbit!!!!!!
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SirDennisC
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May 15 2009, 2:41am
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would have to agree about Jeremy Renner's looks though I suspect someone has a severe case of GB fever. 2 hours of Beowulf & Grendel stat!
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May 15 2009, 2:44am
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actually when I need to self-medicate I go for Phantom of the Opera. It has singing in as well:) It's a girl thing . .
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May 24 2009, 5:28pm
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The Great Goblin .......... Danny Huston
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mulubinba
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May 25 2009, 7:00am
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" Then Bard drew his bowstring to his ear. The dragon was circling back, flying low, and as he came the moon rose above the eastern shore and silvered his great wings. 'Arrow!" said the bowman. 'Black arrow! I have saved you to the last. You have never failed me and always I have recovered you....... go now and speed well" JRR Tolkien: The Hobbit
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May 25 2009, 9:09am
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Here's my picks!!! Feel free to comment as you like!!!
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Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman Thorin Oakenshield - Brian Blessed Balin - James Cosmo Dwalin - Brendan Gleeson Fili - Brian Cox Kili - Ray Winstone Oin - Kevin McNally Gloin - Billy Connelly Dori - Vinnie Jones Nori - Kelsey Grammar Ori - Timothy Spall Bifur - Jack Black Bofur - Simon Pegg Bombur - Jorge Garcia Beorn - Ron Perlman Bard the Bowman - Jim Caviezel King Thranduil - David Bowie Goblin King - Doug Jones Radagast the Brown - John Hurt Master of Laketown - Stellan Skarsgard Voice of Smaug - Ian McDiarmid
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MrCere
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May 26 2009, 5:49am
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I must say, that cast list would be strong and fun. One could only hope. 8)
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Ermanatar
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May 27 2009, 7:24am
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I might consider replacing Vinnie Jones and Jorge Garcia. Vinnie Jones seems too big and muscular for the rest of the cast I've chosen and I'm not sure if Jorge could pull of that Welsh lilt accent that was done so well by John-Rhys Davies. I chose Vinnie because I just couldn't think of anyone else and Jorge because......well.......he's rather large and Bombur WAS after all, the fat dwarf. Wow, that' s horrible..... I feel bad now..... Jorge, if you're reading this, I love you man......LOST is my favorite show...... I liked Jorge paired up with Jack Black and Simon Pegg as Bifur, Bofur and Bombur, though. I thought they would make a pretty funny comedy trio for the film's comic relief element. The rest of my fantasy cast is pretty solid, I think.
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sticklebat
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Jun 2 2009, 7:42am
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just looks so much more an Elf-lord to me...elegant, aristocratic, statuesque features...down to the sharp nose & graceful ears.
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Jun 2 2009, 9:42pm
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Richard Armitage for Hobbit film
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posted here are all i have to go by. never seen him in 'action'. but if he's forty, he looks great. i wouldn't have put him past thirty. He's in his 30s. I have seen him in action. He's a great actor. Better than loads of better known ones, imo. (Hi, Mulubinba. Lovely caps - )
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oneminutetomidknight
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Jun 5 2009, 8:57pm
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just looks so much more an Elf-lord to me...elegant, aristocratic, statuesque features...down to the sharp nose & graceful ears. eh, you certain? he's a complete Man - gruff, moody, dark hair, beardy - hardly elegant
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Jun 6 2009, 3:52am
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for something!! He has just exited form Spooks here in NZ (boohoo!) Could he please play an elf Lord, or possibly Thranduil???
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Jun 6 2009, 4:24am
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that's the beauty of individual perception... he could be cast as either race & it wouldn't necessarily make an entire world of difference. he doesn't appear rugged or Bard-y to my eyes...he looks to me to be of fair Elven race. people just see different things... I'm sure whomever is cast in any of the speculated roles, whether they match any of the above suggestions or no, the director will also have seen something different still.
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Chaendra
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Jun 7 2009, 1:16am
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So many actors, my head hurts! I've never seen Martin Freeman in anything but from his looks I think that would be a good Bilbo! As for Bard I'd probably want Christian Bale, from what I've seen he can pull off the grim/pessimism pretty well to be Bard. With Smaug I have like a million and a half ideas, but I saw this movie called Dragonheart when I was little and it was always one of my favorites and the dragon in the movie is voiced by Sean Connery and he did a magnificent job, I thought. So I think it would be neat for him to be the voice for Smaug. As for everyone else I'm pretty open for whatever GDT thinks is best. Off topic, but yay my first post.
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Sharky
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Jun 7 2009, 1:37am
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A few suggestions for Thranduil: Daniel Day-Lewis Jeremy Irons Rupert Everett Sam Neill Michael Ironside
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Jun 7 2009, 9:20am
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It should be someone good-looking, like Hugo Weaving, which IMHO rules out most of these actors.
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Frodo; "What I chiefly need now is courage . . ."
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Destrier
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Jun 7 2009, 4:58pm
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You're right, oneminutetomidknight...
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...Richard Armitage is all man. He's altogether too masculine and sexy and IMO looks too big and 'mightily thewed' for an elf (mmm... those shoulders and thighs ). At the slight risk of repeating myself , he would make a perfect Bard. He does 'grim' so well... ...and he looks formidable with a long bow. Plus... he's got THE VOICE (sorry, can't post a picture of that!) Below are two casting suggestions in one: Bard (Richard Armitage) walking beside the Great Goblin (Keith Allen). They could save money casting Keith Allen as the goblin king because he wouldn't need much make-up...
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Chaendra
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Jun 10 2009, 7:06pm
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I simply love him, he was great in PotC and he was also quite funny in Love, Actually (he was actually the main reason I enjoyed that movie!) I'd definitely want him to be in the movie somehow, not sure if I picture him as a dwarf though.
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Jun 11 2009, 2:59am
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Thanks so, so much for putting this list together! It's the only thing I show people for Cast Speculating, besides the official Hobbit movie website/ GDT interviews, though he really doesnt say much- but hey, GDT is going to reveal the actor for Bilbo soon, I'm going nuts, I can't wait to find out!!!!!! Thanks again! Arwen
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Jun 13 2009, 1:49pm
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You ought to add Javier Bardem as a suggestion for Smaug.
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Arwen_Undomiel
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Jun 13 2009, 4:18pm
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Javier Bardem? Can't say I know who he is!
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I'll look him up, hold on
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Jun 13 2009, 10:17pm
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Saw someone mention Alton Yelchin (Chekov in the recent Star Trek) for Bilbo on another fourm. That's a worthwhile consideration.
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Arwen_Undomiel
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Jun 13 2009, 11:41pm
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I like your signature!
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Sharky
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Jun 14 2009, 2:43am
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It's one of my fave lines in the trilogy! You've got to love Gimli!
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Arwen_Undomiel
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Mae Govannen! My Greetings! The world is quiet here.
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terrymerry
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Jun 16 2009, 8:53pm
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The Voice for Smaug :- Well it`s goto be Christopher Lee! or..Anthony Hopkins ! ...... Both are Icons of evil, plus having the upperclass English accent or welsh if it was Anthony Hopkins for playing these type of parts ... Plus Anthony Hopkins being Welsh has a strong connection with: Dragons...both would do this role justice...
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sticklebat
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Jun 17 2009, 8:04am
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that he looks sixteen...not fifty one...
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Jun 22 2009, 4:51pm
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Yes, I thought Colin Firth was one of the top choices as well. He looks and sounds like Ian Holm.
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Jun 29 2009, 6:26pm
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Personally I feel that some of these casting suggestions are a bit out of line, such as Russell Crowe as Bard or George Clooney as Smaug. What worked so well in LotR movies was that most of the actors were not "Hollywood stars", and when you looked at the characters, you did not immediately associate them with the image of that star, you associated them with how they were presented on screen as these characters. So, here are some of my suggestions: Bilbo: I like James McAvoy, simply because I think he looks like a hobbit and he is good enough actor (after watching him in Atonement, I am convinced he can be a great lead for this movie), I also like the idea of Ian Holm coming back for narration. Bard the Bowman: Jim Caviezel. I like this suggestion because I think he is a good actor and he also looks the part. Thorin: Brian Cox, easy one for me, I think he has good authority in his voice to portray Thorin, looks good for the role as well. Smaug (voice): Jeremy Irons. Dain: Ray Winstone Beorn: Ray Stevenson Thranduil: Kenneth Branagh Great Goblin: Ron Pearlman Bolg: Doug Jones
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I agree that big stars should be limited..
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I've been looking at little noticed actors with a new eye recently and wondering...who would I pick for Bilbo? We recently watched all 8 Seasons of That 70's show for the first time and curly headed Danny McMasterson has caught my eye. He seems like a really well-balanced guy who has some handsome hobbity good looks hidden behind all the sideburns, sunglasses, beards and moppet hair. I wonder if he has an ear for accents? The thought seemed so perfect that it made me check to see if they had actually cast Bilbo yet. For some reason, I get the feeling he's yet to come into his own. I was watching some interviews with him, and he really looks older than he is and could easily play a 40 year old hobbit. I know he certainly can do some gorgeous close-ups. His eyes are just as blue as can be and have a wonderul hobbit twinkle to them when he talks. Something you never got to see in the TV series. Yea, I think we should watch out for him soon. In his early 30's he ripe to play a nice leading role and really put some guts into a role like Bilbo. I really would like to see someone do a hobbit who has acting depth. Of course..EW did a great job for such a young actor, but Bilbo had so much more angst and desire for adventure than Frodo..I'd like to see him with a little bit of an edge to him. ..
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Jul 3 2009, 1:25am
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I've only read the first 3 chapters....
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Bilbo: Martin Freeman. If there's a main female elf: Selma Blair. Trolls/dwarves: Jack Black, Alfred Molina & Bernard Hill.
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Jul 3 2009, 6:21pm
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who's the guy to the left of Danny in the pic you posted?
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....he looks like a potential Bilbo as well, perhaps...
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An opportunity for Richard????
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Hey!.... I just heard about the cancellation of Robin Hood!.... Richard is free now to go to New Zealand!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!.... Richard for Bard!!!!!!....
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Robin Hood Canceled, Richard's Time! Richard for Bard!
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Hey just heard about this and my first thought was: "Hey, he is free now to be Bard!!!!"... Let's make a campaign!!!!!!.....
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Eruthurin
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Jul 4 2009, 1:23pm
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Agree with you Lorethiel.... besides, watching this picture with Ben Foster, I would think on him too.... he's note the big star, but he is a good actor though.... I've seen some of his performances and liked him alot!....
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way for a proper Robin Hood (Scott's), no more.
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Richard Armitage for Bard and Keith Allen for Goblin King!
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...Richard Armitage is all man. He's altogether too masculine and sexy and IMO looks too big and 'mightily thewed' for an elf (mmm... those shoulders and thighs ). At the slight risk of repeating myself , he would make a perfect Bard. He does 'grim' so well... ...and he looks formidable with a long bow. Plus... he's got THE VOICE (sorry, can't post a picture of that!) Below are two casting suggestions in one: Bard (Richard Armitage) walking beside the Great Goblin (Keith Allen). They could save money casting Keith Allen as the goblin king because he wouldn't need much make-up... Ha, ha!! Keith Allen as the Goblin King!! I love it!! :P
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A fool of a Took! Pippin's long lost brother, actually!
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really? ouch!
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Jul 11 2009, 7:53pm
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I resemble that remark!
"Despair, or folly?" said Gandalf. "It is not despair, for despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt." "This is the hour of the Shire-folk, when they arise from their quiet fields to shake the towers and counsels of the Great." http://hobbitmeals.wordpress.com
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Destrier
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Jul 14 2009, 4:50pm
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Keith Allen IS the Great Goblin!
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The resemblance is quite striking - they must be brothers. (With apologies to John Howe for mucking around with his brilliant artwork.)
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Pioneer
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Jul 16 2009, 10:39am
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It would be a crime against humanity not to have Rhys Darby, band manager to Flight of the Conchords, have a cameo as a hobbit.
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oneminutetomidknight
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Jul 17 2009, 11:09am
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As a hobbit he would be great, we've already seen Bret in as Figwit - i think we need Jemaine for a role as well
"That's not a knife...oh wait, yeh it is" Jemaine Clement "You spend the first 5 years trying to get with the plan, and the the next 5 years trying to be with your friends again" All My Friends "'I've had nothing but maggoty bread for 3 STINKING DAYS...." A.N. Orc
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Jul 24 2009, 11:45pm
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Smaug's voice, a new suggestion
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Gabriel Woolf has the most amazing voice. He was the voice of Sutekh in the Pyramid of Mars, and that of the Beast in the Satan Pit and the Impossible Planet in Doctor Who. I would love to hear him as Smaug. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Woolf
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Nazgul
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Jul 27 2009, 6:10am
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I was watching PBS King Lear with Sir Ian McKellen and since Christopher Lee won't be able to make it to NZ why not Jonathan Hyde as Saruman!? He sounds and looks like a young Christopher Lee!
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deej
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Jul 28 2009, 2:44pm
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From David Tennant himself - he is NOT playing Bilbo
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At the Doctor Who panel during Comic Con this weekend, he joked that one of the things he loved about Comic Con were all the rumours: "I'm retiring, i'm playing The Hobbit - not true!"
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SirDennisC
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Jul 28 2009, 3:02pm
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perhaps there is still hope for Jeremy Renner, who just so happens to be free at the moment. Not for long though if The Hurt Locker does as well as expected. Now if RA would just make such a statement...
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Sunflower
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Aug 3 2009, 6:24am
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Doug Jones expounding on his hopes for "The Hobbit", when asked THE question at a Mexico City version of Comic-Con. VERY funny--his Smaug comment is priceless, as is reaction of the actor next to him. http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related Enjoy.
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greendragon
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Aug 4 2009, 7:31pm
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I'd love to see him get a role in The Hobbit. He's a great actor - his voice work in various animated movies is brilliant - and, being the originator of the 'Mark Hamill curse' (which folks like Elijah Wood and Dan Radcliffe are working hard to try to avoid), he doesn't get the credit he deserves. Give the man a role, I say! He'd be fab.
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Aug 24 2009, 1:09am
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Richard Armitage as Bard? Will Bard be in the second movie?
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If the latest rumours are true and filming starts early next year, how likely will it be for Richard Armitage to be available to be in this movie? Granted, I believe he would be the perfect Bard (and have been saying so for well over a year) but his availability will depend on whether Bard appears in the first or second movie. He seems to be already committed to other projects for 2010..... good for him that he has work, but not so good for those of us who would like to see him in this role...
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Patty
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Aug 24 2009, 1:18am
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Oh wow. I'd so like to see Richard Armitage
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as Bard. "Look back. Look back at me." Yeah.
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Steelsheen
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Sep 2 2009, 4:12pm
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Adding this name to the list....
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the recent IMDB poll got me thinking.... what about Ben Barnes for Bard? or even Thranduil? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1602660/). the kid's got theater cred and is a pretty competent actor, enough to hold his own even against acting heavyweights.
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sticklebat
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Sep 2 2009, 5:28pm
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way too young & fresh faced for either of those roles...imo. Bard has to be older, grim, very 'everyman', very rugged... Thranduil has to be kingly, full of wisdom, slightly menacing...I don't see it in him.
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Steelsheen
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Sep 2 2009, 10:53pm
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well, i'm not sure about "older" but Bard is the typical everyman character that comes to his own as the story progresses. thats why i thought Barnes would do well in that role. and he can look scruffy-- he just finished an indie film called "Valediction" where he is quite rugged looking. as for looking sinister for Thranduil, thats wasnt my primary qualifier for casting, but more of who could convincingly look like he could be Orlando Bloom's Legolas' father. there is a likenes between the two, although quite frankly i have no clue if Barnes can pull off the blonde look. in any case i wouldnt put it past Barnes to play sinister. from what i've seen of the "Dorian Gray" adverts Barnes can be pretty nasty basterd, his eyes can convey a lot of darkness (literally and figuratively). edit: one other thing, Barnes isnt that young anymore either, he is 28. being kingly and full of wisdom will probably be a walk in the park for him at this point since he's doing Voyage of the Dawn Treader.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 3 2009, 4:26pm
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Aiken was mentioned in early 2008, but not for Bilbo.
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Here is the only time he'd been named on this board* before MrCere mentioned him in this thread. *Though not really on this board, which didn't exist at that time -- the thread was moved here later.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> We're discussing The Silmarillion in the Reading Room, Aug. 9 - Mar 7. Please join the conversation! This week: "Of the Coming of the Elves" and "Of Thingol and Melian". +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= How to find old Reading Room discussions.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 3 2009, 4:44pm
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Here is a fuller list of candidates who have been suggested on TORN for Bilbo.
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I think these are all the actors who have been seriously suggested to play Bilbo in discussions on this board (including many threads that were moved here when the board was created in May 2008). The names you already list above are starred. I include Liam Aiken on the assumption that he represents one of your own choices and not an editing mistake. Tom Cruise has been named often, but I think always with derision as regards the part of Bilbo. As someone else mentioned, the most surprising omission from your collation is Colin Firth, whose name has come up many times, probably less frequently only than Freeman and McAvoy. Liam Aiken Jack Black Hugh Bonneville * Kenneth Branagh Simon Callow Ice Cube Alan Davies Patrick Dempsey Rupert Evans Colin Firth Martin Freeman * Ricky Gervais Paul Giamatti Ryan Gosling * Richard Hammond Tom Hanks John Hannah Tom Hiddleston Phillip Seymour Hoffman Tom Hollander * Ian Holm Barnaby Holm Bob Hoskins * Michael Hurst * Eddie Izzard * Toby Jones * Skandar Keynes Shia LaBeouf * Donal Logue William H. Macy * Tobey Maguire * Eddie Marsan Danny Masterson James McAvoy * Sylvester McCoy Ewan McGregor Colm Meany Dominic Monaghan Sam Neill * Craig Parker Simon Pegg Sean Pertwee James Purefoy Daniel Radcliffe John C. Reilly Jeremy Renner Thomas Robins Tony Shalhoub Martin Shaw Reece Shearsmith * Michael Sheen * David Tennant * Robin Williams Elijah Wood Anton Yelchin
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Holbytla
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Sep 4 2009, 9:08pm
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My vote for Bilbo definitely goes to Tom Hollander - he's perfect for it and not so well known that his personality would subsume the character. He's also quintessentially English and would play the part of an unwilling adventurer brilliantly. Just take a look of this clip from In the Loop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-5v6ZMY4W8 if you don't know, he's the guy talking to the journalists at the start
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Sep 6 2009, 5:52am
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has possibilities!
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Sep 7 2009, 1:37pm
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James Purefoy as Bard? He's a bit grim looking.
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Steelsheen
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Sep 8 2009, 2:51pm
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Colin Firth= perfect but for one thing....
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Colin Firth is the perfect Ian Holm replacement, except for one thing... ... he is very tall, at least 6'0. that is the only thing that keeping me from letter bombing PJ, GDT and crew about him. i know height isnt too much an issue given that most of the time Bilbo will be surrounded by Dwarves (therefore just hire "big" actors, who are taller than 6'0 most of the time anyway), but i feel that the casting folks are looking at actors no taller than 5'9, which makes it easier to shrink them later in post. casting for other characters (men, elves) will be easier too if the hobbit and the dwarves arent too tall to begin with. but yeah, if height is not an issue for the Bilbo casting, Colin's my man!
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sticklebat
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Sep 8 2009, 5:00pm
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all that much... the actors will be digitally scaled to the prescribed heights they need to be for the film... virtually every member of the Fellowship were vastly different heights & they made it all work relatively seamlessly... Colin Firth would be my runner up choice right behind Mr.martin Freeman...either of these two would be a perfect Baggins.
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Sep 8 2009, 7:47pm
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Jeremy Irons. 'Nuff said.
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Elfriend
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Sep 10 2009, 12:19am
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From this day forth, I'm using these boards. That's a fine list sir :)
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Twit
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Sep 15 2009, 11:01am
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Thranduil.
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mikehunt1974
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Sep 23 2009, 6:50pm
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Goblin King= TIM FREAKING CURRY!!
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Best Demon ever! Annd to voice Smaug how about going old school and hiring Clancy Brown! :) your thoughts?
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Nesse
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Sep 26 2009, 11:01am
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Awesome lists from one and all....but you have gotta have some eye candy for us females no offence to Bilbo and the gang so we gotta look to Bard and maybe Thandruil. Sean, David, Orlando, Karl, and Viggo sent our pulses racing I think Richard Armitage as Bard would be a good call but for me its gotta be Hugh Jackman. I would NOT like to see lots off Hollywood actors but I would make an exception in his case I think although Beorn has to be of a certain stature theres nothing to say he cant be good looking, so come on ladies who apart from RA would have you drooling all over your popcorn.
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Nesse
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Sep 26 2009, 4:19pm
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Looking through a list of NZ and Australian actors how about Dominic Purcell for Beorn remember him from Prison Break and in Blade Trinity as Drake.
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sticklebat
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Sep 27 2009, 5:01pm
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I can think of a dozen far better choices... after the absolute stinker that was the Wolverine origins movie, I 'd really prefer to not see him anywhere close to The Hobbit... I think we've been far too saturated with not so wow-able films featuring ole Hugh...(Australia) no dis credit to his talent, but they'd be so wrong to go with a name like him... Guillermo & Peter & the gang are gonna cast the right guy...I think they'll go with a less than heavy hitter...an underdog... either Jim Caveizel or Kevin McKidd from the series Rome...would be awesome choices... I think Tim Curry would be amazing as The Goblin King though... he is one of my favorite actors...& he's very underrated & doesn't do roles that do him any justice anymore...this would be a good spot for that...
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mamph17
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Oct 12 2009, 1:54am
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I really hope that Jack Black is not a serious consideration. I just have this feeling that he just wouldn't work in the fantasy world of middle earth.
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Oct 26 2009, 1:51pm
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Colm Meany. He has that Hobbity look.
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Destrier
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Oct 31 2009, 4:04pm
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I agree about the eye candy, but sorry, I can't think of anyone apart from RA who would have me drooling over my popcorn. He's the only one!
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Nesse
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Oct 31 2009, 7:23pm
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looking at him I think he would make a convincing Bilbo unless they want someone around the age of Elijah
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Mrs Bard
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Nov 1 2009, 12:49pm
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I'm with you Destrier! Richard Armitage is the only person that springs to mind when I think of "eye candy" or "drool"...
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sticklebat
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Nov 3 2009, 9:06pm
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I guess there's gonna be some soggy popcorn out there... and that makes me kinda sad... soggy popcorn is no fun indeed...
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balinman
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Nov 10 2009, 12:45am
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it would have been neat if christopher lee would have returned
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Elizabeth
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Nov 10 2009, 8:57am
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This issue has been discussed a lot, most recently in this thread. Welcome to TORn, balinman. We appreciate your enthusiasm (we're all excited about The Hobbit!), but I suggest you'll get the most out of TORn by reading at least the top posts and a few responses in most current threads, so you can be up to date on all the speculation!
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balinman
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Nov 11 2009, 9:59pm
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i want michael sheen to be bilbo:)
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Cass
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Nov 14 2009, 2:22pm
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haha wow, that's a lot of people there....O__o i guess i really should not be surprised though. xD
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LuthienBono
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Nov 17 2009, 4:59pm
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Richard Armitage for the bard!
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Being a fan also of Richard Armitage, I totally agree that he would make the perfect bard! To quote Destrier ''He looks like he's walked straight out of Middle Earth - he's a broad-shouldered 6'2", dark, noble-featured. He does grim and intense better than most and he's got the most beautiful, dark, deep voice... What's more, he can use a longbow and wield a sword convincingly, and he looks magnificent on a horse! He's also said in interviews that he's a Tolkien fan.'' Couldn't put it better myself!! One of my favourite pics of Richard as Sir Guy of Gisborne
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Nov 17 2009, 5:18pm
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He looks to be a perfect Bard - and welcome LuthienBono. Nice to see knew names.
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LuthienBono
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Nov 17 2009, 6:30pm
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Yeah, the name might be new but I've actually been a member of this sight for years! Although it has just been a couple of years since I last visited here until today, and I found that I was unable log in with my old username (MrsBono) and password, so I had to create a new account!!
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Falcrum_love
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Nov 23 2009, 10:51pm
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I really think Tony Shalhoub should be Bilbo
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he is the PERFECT Bilbo Baggins! i mean go watch an episode of Monk! picture him with giant feet! He's Bilbo! Dont you guys think so?
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Nov 24 2009, 5:02am
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I had never considered Shalhoub. But he does have an Ian Holm Bilbo-esque look to him. Throw a wig on him and dye the eyebrows and yeah, I could definitely see it. Good call.
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I'm gonna go ahead and throw Mickey Rourke into the mix for Beorn. Knowing him as a method actor he'd probably go live with bears for two months .
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Nov 24 2009, 2:03pm
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Tony Shalhoub could be brilliant.
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Well, I have supreme confidence that whoever they cast for whatever role will be brilliant. Assuming the same folks who were involved with casting the LOTR films are involved in The Hobbit as well, anyway. I wasn't so sure about some of their choices when I first heard about the trilogy so many years ago, but ended up being not one bit disappointed in any of the actors for those films, and quite a few of them just blew me away. So I expect I'll be happy with whoever they go with this time around, even if they're not my personal first choice.
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Gary Oldman; Bilbo? [if he fattens up a bit]
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Dec 2 2009, 5:52pm
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all great actors....but I don't see the Bagginses in them... Oldman is a brilliant actor... but for Bilbo...I say no to all three...there's somebody out there yet, be they unapproached, or on standby...who just IS Bilbo... this guy has to embody him in every way. I have my top two...but the likelihood of either one of them being cast has slid further & further down the hill... so I'm just gonna be patient & trust them to cast the perfect Bilbo...
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Dec 5 2009, 7:29pm
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I do like continuity....but actually, yeah...he would be great for Bilbo.
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To play another role like he did in king kong? A dwarf maybe?
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he would be such an amazing Smaug... his vocal talent alone... producing that perfect, iconic voice for Gollum...not to mention his physical body and emotions... Andy would be a brilliant Smaug...listen to him in The Screwtape Letters...wow... can't say it enough, really...he should play both characters in The Hobbit... GDT, PJ...tell me you wouldn't agree...
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My vote for "Smaug" goes to Max von Sydow, please use him before we lose him.
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Falcrum_love
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how do you not agree that Shalhoub, Mr monk, should be bilbo? you obviously have not seen an episode of Monk.
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I've seen Tony Shaloub in Monk, actually...I wouldn't have responded with such certainty of opinion if I hadn't.. and if I hadn't, I would have looked up an episode to watch to determine for myself whether he struck me as who I'd LONG envisioned Bilbo Baggins to be... and...sorry if my opinion differs from yours...but that's the beauty of individual perception... everyone sees something different and is ultimately entitled to their own opinion... apparently everyone who's anyone agrees he should be cast...? the masses have spoken...? he doesn't absolutely say Bilbo Baggins to me...at all...that's just me... what can I say? agree to disagree... Peace... I see, strongly, either Martin Freeman or Colin Firth as Bilbo...leaning more toward Colin Firth these days... but I have a sneaky suspicion someone relatively unknown has been cast...and I'm more than ok with that...
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Due to the delay in filming The Hobbit, Tom Hollander would now seem to be available for Bilbo - good news for Hollander fans!
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SirDennisC
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Dec 19 2009, 4:50am
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Is it too late to change my vote
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for Bard from Thomas Kretschmann to Til Schweiger? Seen most recently in Inglourious Basterds as Sgt. Stiglitz, some of you may remember Schweiger as Cynric, son of Stellan Skarsgard's character Cerdic, in King Arthur. Although... King Arthur does bring to mind another actor who could play Bard: Mads Mikkelsen. He played Tristam in King Arthur but is probably better known as Le Chiffre in Casino Royal (2006). And for die hard Viggo fans, Mads is Danish as well. Dang, come to think of it, they are all good choices... hmmm ok if it were up to me, Til Schweiger would get my vote.
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Bard: Liam Neeson Beorn: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Jason Statham Bilbo: Mark Williams (Arthur--dad--Weasley in the HP movies)
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Dec 20 2009, 3:19am
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I always envisioned Bard as a man in his late 30s/early 40's. While Neeson turns everything he touches into gold, I think he might be too old for the part. A resounding "NO" to Dwayne Johnson being involved in this production in any way, shape, or form. Let him stick to terrible kid flicks.
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Bard...Liam Neeson...meh...he's in almost everything...Star Wars, Narnia, Batman...lets give an up & comer a go... The Rock would be the stone that dragged The Hobbit right down to the bottom... Mark Williams...a bit too fuddy duddy...like the opposite of James McAvcoy.... not fond of the idea of seeing any Harry Potter-affiliated actors in The Hobbit... Peace.
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Dec 22 2009, 12:17pm
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Yes, he's a comedian type, but did anyone see him in "The Libertine"? The way he handled the old way of speaking was really natural. And I just think he looks perfect for Bombur, with a beard of course.
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g_jones
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Dec 22 2009, 11:06pm
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Brad Pitt has been sporting a strange beard lately, People Magazine suggested he remove it. I believe it likely being grown for a role, but he hasn't announced what role it is for. His IMDB schedule looks like there may be a big open area in the middle of 2010. Just saying is all.
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Kangi Ska
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Dec 22 2009, 11:40pm
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Just saying...
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Dec 23 2009, 9:00am
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David Bowie as Thranduil would be terrifying I love him, but if he does it I think I may scream. And Brad Pitt for Bard, d'you think? He doesn't look very dwarfy, even with his beard, but Bard I can see. It's just a flip of letters away...
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Dec 25 2009, 4:31am
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How about Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men)?
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Kangi Ska
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Dec 25 2009, 4:57am
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he could turn into a bear.
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Kangi Ska
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Dec 25 2009, 5:08am
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He would be good for Bard as well.
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Glorfindel
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Dec 25 2009, 9:50am
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Benicio del Toro for Beorn. He does Wolfie very well.
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Dec 31 2009, 4:39am
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-I could buy him as Legolas' dad, and he even has a voice similar to Bloom's (in Hellboy 2, at least). -Worked with GDT before. -Pretty good actor, from what I've seen.
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Dec 31 2009, 10:36pm
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For Smaug you need an actor with a voice in a deep register (even if you boost the low end due to Smaug's size) who can project charismatic, smooth menace. So out of left field, how about Iggy Pop, Michael Dorn, or most especially Avery Brooks? Checked out any Deep Space 9 eps where Brooks gets angry? I wouldn't want to mess with him!
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rosey
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Jan 9 2010, 6:54pm
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I hope that Viggo Mortensen, Liv Tyler and Hugo Weaving should certainly reprise their roles in The Hobbit.
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Authiel
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Jan 11 2010, 7:26pm
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Richard Armitage for Thranduil, all the way!
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I really think that Richard Armitage should play Thranduil. He has really elven features, not unlike those of Orlando Bloom, so it fits. When I saw Richard's picture, I just thought, "Wow! He looks just like how I imagined Thranduil!"
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Jan 11 2010, 8:52pm
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I agree...Richard Armitage would be perfectly cast as Thranduil as well... I don't, however, want to see either Viggo Mortensen or Liv Tyler in The Hobbit... in no way does it enhance, nor make any it sense to the story.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 11 2010, 10:14pm
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I do not recall him in Phantom Menace and have not seen him an anything else that I know of.
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Glorfindel
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Jan 12 2010, 7:42pm
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Yes, he's been in dramas on the BBC - North and South (period drama); Spooks (modern day spy); and more lightweight stuff like the current series of Robin Hood where he plays a tortured Guy of Gisborne. Those are the ones I can recall off the top of my head. I personally like him for Bard.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 12 2010, 10:50pm
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as the Ideal Elf, he does look the part. I am more concerned with acting as I am certain that Thranduil will be enhanced in the movies. You know, like have lines and stuff. He is visible in the book but does not have a lot to say.
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Glorfindel
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Jan 13 2010, 12:22am
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When I say he's been in tv dramas I should have clarified to say that he has starred in these. I still see him as Bard more than Thranduil as he has that brooding man of action quality. Someone you could rely on in a tight spot. Not that I've given him too much thought you understand....
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Jan 13 2010, 2:49am
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Poker player Tony G as Bombur... "On ya bike now..."
mmmmmm Cram!
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 13 2010, 3:04am
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You know, Hurley on Lost.
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Jan 13 2010, 4:17am
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Never seen the show, only previews,
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but he seems perfect
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Jan 13 2010, 8:29am
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there are so many other actors who'd be awesome as Bombur... I really hope Gorge Garcia is not Bombur... think of them casting a young, spry, swashbuckling Bilbo...not good right? Bombur needs more years on him... my first choice would be Ian McNeice.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 13 2010, 1:04pm
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I Doubt Bilbo will be 50 in the movies as in book
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Makeup would take care of aging easily, and Dominic M. gives him a LotR connection
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Jan 13 2010, 9:59pm
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you're right...about ole Baggins... I just think that are tons better choices to explore for Bombur... I just get the sense that Garcia doesn't have that quality nor the vocal skill to match what I'd imagined Bombur to be like... he sounds...not like a Dwarf should sound...in lieu of describing it outright... but, I'm not making the decisions here, either, so... the 'Lost' connection...not really all that pertinent...and not a convincing enough reason to cast him, in my humble opinion. cheers. someone in a separate thread suggest another actor who may have had potential as Bombur...for get who it was now...
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 13 2010, 10:30pm
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I find myself on both sides of many arguments
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this is partly due to a split in reality. First there is the book "The Hobbit" and all that lies within its pages. Second there are the references within the Book to happenings in the greater Middle-Earth. Third there are outside materials within Tolkien's writings that expand the understanding of the Hobbit within the greater Middle-Earth writings. Fourth there is the canon of the three Peter Jackson LotR films. Fifth there is the DelToro factor and his history as a film maker. I will argue one way on what I think would work as a big market film and another for the story as written. I love the Peter Jackson movies but feel so very much more about the Tolkien book(s). Also I speculate on what might be done with each scene, applying what I know of cinema to the situations here I get to venture into how I would visualize the story. Pitching these ideas to the diverse group that hangs out around here gives me feedback and lets me see with new eyes.
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Loresilme
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Jan 14 2010, 7:27pm
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As movie-Frodo didn't look or seem 50, I doubt movie-Bilbo will either //
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 14 2010, 9:01pm
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It is much more important to the plot of the Hobbit that Bilbo be older.
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ElanorG
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Jan 15 2010, 8:17am
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What do people think of Charlie Cox?
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Am I the only one who thinks Charlie would be a PERFECT Bilbo? He's got just the right balance of good looks, similar features to Ian Holm, Britishness, and seriously great acting chops! Anyone else agree? Thoughts?
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Jan 15 2010, 8:41am
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I know I'm somewhat, if not a lot stalwart on this subject...I'll just hate it if they get the casting for Bilbo wrong... they got it bang on with Ian Holm. period. Charlie Cox...not the Bilbo I see at all... I've never heard of this guy...never seen him act...but just by looking at him I'd have to say no... he looks almost pretty enough for an Elf...but, I dunno... you just have to kind of get a 'sense' about who the perfect Baggins should be... don't get that from him...
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ElanorG
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Jan 15 2010, 6:33pm
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Good looking doesn't mean elfin; check the clip...
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See Stardust. Honestly, the character he plays at the beginning of that movie is the same sort of unexpected hero that Bilbo becomes. And, if you ask me, Elijah wood is pretty good looking. He played a hobbit! Check these clips. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xfxZoBFGgk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=654ULDnxh3U
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Jan 20 2010, 8:23am
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could definitely work for Bilbo... right along the lines of who I see the character being... not someone young and pretty... would love to see Toby Jones cast as The Penguin in the next Batman.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 20 2010, 9:41am
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barlo80
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Jan 20 2010, 11:54pm
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Bilbo will be played by an unknown actor who will perform the scenes, but the image will be overlapped with a computer graphic version of a younger Ian Holm (more and less like Andy Serkis with Gollum). Ian Holm will be probably involved in the project, but most of the acting will be performed in New Zealand by an unknown actor (they are casting now) in motion capture technology, as the one developed by WETA for "Tin Tin". Smaug and other characters will be also performed using this technique. For who is thinking "bull...t": look at PJ's "Tin Tin", that's the easiest solution to keep continuity with TLOTR considering the massive achievement of the computer graphic 10 years later. Bingoooo!!
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Jan 21 2010, 12:28am
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As said in another thread, that process is overly expensive, overly complicated, and extremely time-consuming. And while we have made great strides in computer generated imagery, we are not yet at a place to digitally render a human to perfection. One of the worst things GDT and Co. could do would be to put in a digital replica of Ian Holm and not have it pass off as the real deal. The second it becomes clear it is CGI, the movie's credibility is shot.
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Jan 21 2010, 12:57am
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Agree!... Richard for Bard and Luke Goss for Thranduil.....!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 21 2010, 9:10am
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that's entirely a bold approach...
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...to casting the main character of one of the most anticipated movies in recent years... how did you come to this conclusion...it sounded fairly set in stone...are you privvy to inside info on this? I wonder if the studio would go for this idea...(hand over chin, tapping, thinking...not likely) cast the most appropriately aged and talented live actor qualified for the role...there's an idea... old fashioned, I know...but gosh darn it...it just might work.
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Jan 22 2010, 10:08pm
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Why can't Weta create a time machine?
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It's too bad time travel hasn't been invented yet as the crew could simply go back to when Ian Holm was younger and shoot it with him anyway. Unless they end up picking up someone magically good, Holm will forever be ingrained in my mind as THE Bilbo. So far, few of the names I've heard in speculation have really done it for me. Martin Freeman comes close, but I doubt he'll be cast. Regardless I am super stoked about the casting process and can't wait to find out who's playing who. x3
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Loresilme
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Jan 25 2010, 1:45pm
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Were there things that Bilbo did or thoughts he had that could not or would not be believable if done/thought by a younger person? Or are you referring to specific time frame and events of the entire saga - that the story itself would not make sense if Bilbo's age was younger?
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Jan 27 2010, 10:46pm
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I just hope that they are able to cast this one like they did the trilogy. Studios and directors are often at odds when casting, the director wants the actor that can best bring life to his vision, the studio wants someone "bankable" As an actor I have been in this position, pushed out of a role because a name actor became available at the last minute. Anyway... the thing that I loved about the trilogy is that at every turn, Peter got actors that absolutely nailed it, several of them with no public track record. My favorite performances were from Billy Boyd. That Peter got nameless actors into major roles on a 270 mil dollar film was a testament to the trust that the studio put in him. I really, really hope this one goes the same way.
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Jan 28 2010, 8:58pm
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Possible Bilbo adds: Andrew-Lee Potts, Sam Troughton
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My notes on these two were kinda buried in other threads. Thought I'd call them out. :)
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Jan 28 2010, 11:12pm
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My thoughts: a)Bilbo is de facto lead. The book is about him and it is not an ensemble piece like LOTR. hence the title The Hobbit. b)Bilbo is multi-layered character and definitely NOT a comical bafoon and goofball. He is sarcastic, sharp-witted, often irritated by dwarfish stupidity and attempts to exploit him, cunning and bent on getting even with dwarfs (for above mentioned reasons),and he has a quite remarkable prowess as an action man. Also, at the end of the book, we see he is compassionate and forgiving. c) Outside Bilbo, the only developed characters or characters who really have character/personality are Thorin, Smaug and Gandalf. Other dwarfs barely register and among them only Balin and Kili and Fili because they take Bilbo`s side and because K&F are Thorin`s nephews and the youngest of the bunch. Bard and Beorn are just episodes and one-dimesnsional good guys. Laketown Master is a standard power-hungry coward while Elven King is whatever. I really don`t have any opinion on him. Bland dude who likes wine, apparently.Gollum is Gollum and just an episode. d) Bilbo is the hero of Smaug Slaying because he cunningly goaded the dragon to reveal his weak spot. It was pure luck that the bird whispered Bilbo`s finding into bard`s ear so Bilbo is the hero in my book, not Who Hell He. Therefore, a comedian wouldn`t be too suitable to play Bilbo since comedy isn`t Bilbo essence nor is his the most typical trait. he is sharp-minded and cunning. Everything else is secondary.
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Jan 30 2010, 1:57pm
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I would add Sir Patrick Stewart as a candidate for Master of Lake Town. IMHO that role would suit him better than a dwarf.
In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...
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Glorfindel
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Feb 5 2010, 9:18am
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Heard him on the radio today and thought...oooh.... he'd make a very threatening Goblin King. He is a very convincing bad guy. Although he did play the Beaver in Narnia but that's about the only good guy role I can think he's had. He gravitates towards the Dark Side.
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Elbrethiel
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I love the idea of Billy Connolly as Thorin. I mean, really really love. I think he would totally nail it. I'll probably be happy with whomever is chosen for whatever role, since I have been waiting for these films since FOTR when I was 15. Is it weird that I get really excited every time I hear anything new about these movies??
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Not in this neck of the woods... Welcome to TORn!
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Feb 8 2010, 12:43pm
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In ,my head, he is a lot like Stephen Fry in that respect, only Hobbity. b)Bilbo is multi-layered character and definitely NOT a comical bafoon and goofball. He is sarcastic, sharp-witted, often irritated by dwarfish stupidity and attempts to exploit him, cunning and bent on getting even with dwarfs (for above mentioned reasons),and he has a quite remarkable prowess as an action man. Also, at the end of the book, we see he is compassionate and forgiving.
Am not putting Mr Fry forward as my 'choice' , I just think he could portray the Bilbo characteristics with regards to personality.
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Feb 20 2010, 8:54pm
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Eric Bana (Hector in "Troy") for Bard?
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Feb 21 2010, 3:47pm
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Wow, thanks for putting this together,
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and I just want to say who ever first suggested Jack Davenport for Bard, you are my hero. haha Hugh Jackman is basically tied in my mind for that role as well.
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Feb 23 2010, 11:53pm
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Martin Freeman is the best choice.
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Brian Cox is the best choice withiut doubt. That face screams Thorin he he he
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Clive Standen who played Archer(robins brother) in Robin Hood would be a good Bard and has all the sword/archery/horseback skills required...and has been linked to pirates 4 for some time so would not be surprised to hear his name mentioned in the coming weeks he has been compared to Errol Flynn in the UK press so there is definitely a buzz around him with the studios here is a link to the imdb page http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1641140/
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LUKE GOSS SHOULD NOT BE ANYONE OTHER THAN AN ORK
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He cant act and is only good at warped prothetic roles ..you might as well have Ray park (darth maul) play a lead...leave the acting to actors not pop stars!
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Peter Jackson jump started the careers of several actors in LOTR. It's probably been covered, but why not cast some actors who are no-names who can do just as good a job for less money and help them out? Everyone keeps name dropping actors who are already known. I came across this video on youtube the other day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as8iBonwpE It has two Canadian actors who look like they are brothers (or at least relatives based on the last names...could be coincidence), which Fili and Kili are already. The video is a little corny...clearly some budget issues... but they look great as the duo. They even used the right colours for their costumes. Why not give them a shake at the roles?
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Mar 6 2010, 8:24pm
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It's too bad time travel hasn't been invented yet as the crew could simply go back to when Ian Holm was younger and shoot it with him anyway. Unless they end up picking up someone magically good, Holm will forever be ingrained in my mind as THE Bilbo. So far, few of the names I've heard in speculation have really done it for me. Martin Freeman comes close, but I doubt he'll be cast. Regardless I am super stoked about the casting process and can't wait to find out who's playing who. x3 That's the same with me. I simply cannot imagine anyone else as Bilbo except Ian Holm. He is...well, he is Bilbo! :) I do hope they try and keep some continuity and pick someone who looks a little like a younger Holm, and then with make up added, someone we could at least "buy" as Holm's Bilbo. I think that's going to be the toughest sell for me is to accept anyone else as Bilbo. It's going to be a lot to put on an actor, and I feel for whoever ends up being cast...he's going to have a lot of weight on his shoulders, that no one else really had in LOTR. Heck I know people who aren't even big fantasy fans, but LOVED LOTR, in large part because Holm's performance in Fellowship really drew them into Middle Earth from the get go. They were hooked for the rest of Trilogy.
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The Voice for Smaug :- Well it`s goto be Christopher Lee! or.. Anthony Hopkins ! ...... Both are Icons of evil, plus having the upperclass English accent or welsh if it was Anthony Hopkins for playing these type of parts ... Plus Anthony Hopkins being Welsh has a strong connection with: Dragons...both would do this role justice... Actually, Anthony Hopkins is not a bad idea! I actually think Christopher Lee would probably be my choice, except he's already Saruman, and I'm quite sure everyone would recognize his voice and say "hey isn't the Saruman from LOTR? Is Smaug Saruman???) I think it would be too confusing for people who had never read the books. Plus, Hopkins has that subtle, "he's thinking of 15 ways to kill you right now" sound in his voice when playing a villain...he definitely could be the dragon of all dragons. It would be fun to get Lee in the film, and voicing Smaug would be the way to do it, but I fear without flanging his voice digitally it would confuse people. (plus his voice doesn't need alteration, it's already so evil on it's own...lol!) I actually think other than Bilbo, Smaug is going to be the hardest to cast because so much of the story relies on him, and he must have a magnetic personality, I think Hopkins fits that role and who know he can act. Though it would be fun to pick someone more obscure...it will be interesting to see what they end doing in the end.
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Haha! .... well I agree with you, so that`s sorted, it will have to be ....Anthony Hopkins ... ha! who going to give him a ring ...me or you ..
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Gotta agree with that. Get some new blood up on the screen!
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That's quite the list! Are they considering any unknowns like they did in LOTR? I've seen stuff all over the web concerning hobbit audition tapes...some are good ...but most are pretty bad... I thought this one was kinda cool... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3as8iBonwpE
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SirDennisC
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here is a longer list of suggestions for Bilbo. Though I think it is even longer since this post was made. Welcome to TORn and thanks for the link.
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The only one I think can play bilbo now is indeed the true bilbo and that is the original from the movies. They just need to heavily add makeup and look him ten years younger.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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*snirt* Women have been trying this for years. And it never works. *glug* //
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Glorfindel
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Bobbi Brown at Smith and Caughy in Auckland run an 'age defying facelift with makeup' workshop and... IT DOESN'T WORK. Mind you Bilbo says in FOTR that he's stretched thin - like butter spread over too much bread and if he's given a facelift that's exactly what he'll look like so you might be on to something. *glug*
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macfalk
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How about a swede in the game for once?
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Stellan Skarsgĺrd as a dwarf?
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turinMerlin
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don't know why, i've been wondering more about the spiders in mirkwood. to be honest, i was just a bit disappointed with how Shelob was done....just wasn't cutting it for me---it's my favorite part in the books.
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Fazumar
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If Andy Serkis is for some reason unavailable...
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I would gladly throw my hat into the ring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_dN2IeZ0Q (<--- Gollum Monologue) ^^^ Watch this, it does not disappoint^^^ Would also absolutely relish the opportunity to audition for any other role. The LotR trilogy is what made me want to become an actor, been doing it ever since. I know Guillermo reads and posts here. Maybe, just maybe? http://www.tylermichaeljonsson.com
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SirDennisC
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that was fantastic. Whether Andy Serkis is available or not, here's hoping your wish comes true!
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Fazumar
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SirDennisC: Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback, and am glad you liked it. I hope the rest of you all get a chance to check it out as well. Also, any sort of 'grass-roots' campaign to support my candidacy for casting in this film would be pretty awesome! If there is *anywhere* that a die-hard Tolkien fan / Actor can drum up support to become involved in a film such as "The Hobbit", TheOneRing.net is *IT* You are all amazing! Thanks for checking out the video! -Tyler
Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor. http://www.TylerMichaelJonsson.com
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Lost Hobbit
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Mar 22 2010, 8:20am
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Does anyone remember approximately the month when the first Fotr casting resulting revealed? I mean the general characters casting results - the Fellowship members, main elves and so on...??? How long it was before the principal photography started?
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you sound just like him! must have required a lot of practise.
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Fazumar
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Getting the Gollum impression down was not really that hard for me. In fairness, Andy Serkis did the REAL work. Created an amazing character. I have always had the ability to emulate characterizations and voices like those quite quickly and easily. After watching TTT in theatres, I literally just went home and tried manipulating my voice to sound like Gollum. Within about an hour or so, there it was :-) Been doing it ever since.
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SirDennisC
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Alice in Wonderland I thought Crispin Glover looked like a good candidate for Bard.
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Glorfindel
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..I just find him creepy rather than stoic and grim. If you grubbed up James Purefoy he might be good but his schedule looks a little busy.
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Fazumar
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I agree, Crispin Glover is a poor choice for Bard in my opinion. He has made a career playing creepy, borderline psychotic characters. I have never seen him in a serious, grim role WITHOUT him being crazy. Could he do it:? Perhaps. But there are other actors much better suited to the part.
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SirDennisC
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Mar 23 2010, 9:18pm
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you would prefer number 7?
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Glorfindel
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... thought your Gollum was very good. You should post more audition tapes on You Tube. Maybe you could do your own thing with one of the characters from The Hobbit that no-one has seen before. You look kind of elfin so maybe Thranduil or really stretch yourself and do a short 'riddles' scene with Bilbo and Gollum (and yes I know you're too young for all these characters but why not make it your interpretation). And have a look at the Noldor Blog http://nznoldor.blogspot.com/. He had some info a while ago on where to send your head shots and cv and was most insistent that they would get to the 'right' people. Not that I know what I'm talking about but hey it's worth a shot and good luck!
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You'll have to excuse my lack of info here if these questions have already been answred... I haven't been keeping up with this forum for the last 2 months or so. Has there been a mailing address posted yet for actors wanting to send headshots and resumes?
And did they move the schedule for filming back to 2011 or is it still set to begin this summer? I see it's starting in July. nm :P Thanks!
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Fazumar
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Casting Directors on The Hobbit
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I've actually done a bit of research and have determined the casting directors in charge of casting The Hobbit. Luckily for me they just happen to be holding a Casting Director Workshop in Hollywood tomorrow evening, which I've signed up to attend! These workshops are in no way an official audition or guarantee OF getting an audition. Just a good way to introduce yourself to CD's who are casting projects you are interested in, and if the fates smile upon you, who knows where it could lead? Sooo... Tomorrow night will be a very exciting time for me! Wish me well, my fellow Tolkien lovers!
Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor. Tyler Michael Jonsson's Official Website Watch My Gollum Impression Video (Best You Will Ever Watch!)
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macfalk
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Fazumar
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Well everyone, I had the opportunity tonight to showcase my skills for one of the casting directors of "The Hobbit". As an actor who has met many of the casting professionals in this town, I can honestly say that this gentleman was one of the kindest, most gracious CD's I have ever encountered. I had a great time talking with him regarding my love for "all things Rings". He assured me he would go and take a look at my Gollum impression video (link in sig)... After all he said, "If we don't get Andy, we will need someone else!" Here are a few tidbits for you folks to chew on directly from the people casting the film... Casting has indeed been "pushed", most likely until May/June or so. Does this mean that NO casting decisions or contracts are being signed until then? Probably not. Actors like Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis (if he returns), and the like are probably already in discussions. As far as actors coming in to read for parts such as Bilbo, Bard, the dwarves... etc... That most likely is still in the brainstorming phase... The CD's have a list of people they want to audition, and may have started seeing a few select people... But the large scale auditions have not begun in earnest yet due to the schedule being pushed. I hope you have found this information helpful! I had such a great time, I cannot express how humbled and honored I was to be acting for one of the people directly responsible for casting The Hobbit. Lastly, I would just comment that you should not take any of this that I have said as absolute truth... While this person was extremely genuine and honest with those of us in attendance, it would be naive to assume that he was given direct permission to speak openly about such sensitive casting matters. As such, it is possible that many parts have already been "unofficially" cast, barring a studio exec shooting down a potential candidate, or that candidate turning down the role (or someone else auditioning and blowing them away!!!). Long story short: The Hobbit cast is nowhere near finalized, and there are many more developments to come in the following weeks and months. Any more information I am able to uncover I will be sure to share!
Los Angeles based Stage and Film Actor. Tyler Michael Jonsson's Official Website Watch My Gollum Impression Video (Best You Will Ever Watch!)
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Mar 29 2010, 6:43pm
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And it worked for Star Wars to cast unknowns... PLEEEZE Mr del Toro?! I know more than half of it half as well as I should like and I like less than half of it half as well as it deserves!
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it might have been easyer to list those not under consideration by fans.
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it might have been easyer to list those not under consideration by fans.
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Serafina
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Earl....just love the Rohan icon that you're using. So cool.
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roygbiv
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May 2 2010, 3:56pm
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Please NO Johnny Depp anywhere in the movie. I do like Stephen Fry. He can do anything. Funny part in Gosford Park. Big man, booming voice. That said, I would rather see unknown or little known actors who can deliver.
Hop along, my little friends, up the Withywindle! Tom's going on ahead candles for to kindle. Down west sinks the Sun: soon you will be groping. When the night-shadows fall, then the door will open, Out of the window-panes light will twinkle yellow. Fear no alder black! Heed no hoary willow! Fear neither root nor bough! Tom goes on before you. Hey now! merry dol! We'll be waiting for you!
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shadowdog
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May 2 2010, 5:16pm
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Of all the names on that list, why did you single out Johnny Depp to say "no" to? And to reassure you, unless the shooting schedule is postponed for a couple of years, Depp is not available to take a role in The Hobbit. He has on his schedule at the moment: POTC4, Dark Shadows, and the Pancho Villa film all to be shot back to back to back over the next year.
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In reply to your question: 1. I was too lazy after my elevenses to go through the whole list. 2. His name caught my eye and even though he's a famous actor with great skills and fabulous bone structure, I don't want him within ten feet of the movie. It's just my "too recognizable, too distinct, too A list, too commercial" actor radar kicking in. That's just my own humble personal opinion and not meant to offend you or anyone.
Hop along, my little friends, up the Withywindle! Tom's going on ahead candles for to kindle. Down west sinks the Sun: soon you will be groping. When the night-shadows fall, then the door will open, Out of the window-panes light will twinkle yellow. Fear no alder black! Heed no hoary willow! Fear neither root nor bough! Tom goes on before you. Hey now! merry dol! We'll be waiting for you!
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shadowdog
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I was just curious.
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Better add Jack Thompson for Thorin {NT}
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Elrond
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May 8 2010, 7:19am
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in that picture he (richard hammond) looks REALLY like a hamster!!!
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Earl
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... so sorry for this really really late reply. I remember I had a lot of responses to my post and for some reason replying to you slipped off my mind. I did recall however that someone had commented on my avatar, but I had no idea who it was or what the text of the post was. I finally found it after looking through all the replies to my posts The avatar is based on one of the Rohan symbols from the movies. I Photoshopped it till I could get the effect I wanted. Thanks and welcome to TORn
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Olaf the hairy
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I'd like to see Richard Coyle as Bilbo. He just starred in Terry Pratchett's Going Postal, as well as the sitcom Coupling. He was also in Prince of Persia (which I haven't seen) I'd like to see Nick Frost or Johny Vegas as Bombur
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durfalas
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lol Cindy Lauper as a Spider!!! :))))
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etiede
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I was just put on tape by casting last week in Los Angeles to play Drogo and am currently waiting for word. Here's to hopefully living the dream! Cheers everyone! -ERIC TIEDE
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Patty
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the story will be written in such a way as to add that storyline. Yep, that would necessitate 2 films.
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Eruonen
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Jeremy Sims as a troll....supposedly he tested.
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Seeing as we are discussing this thread again...
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Put me down. ;) (Still can't tell you my real name tho!)
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Earl
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How did I not see this before?
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WOW, I agree, you'd make a great Drogo Baggins (at least based on your looks as compared to Elijah Wood's Frodo). Coolness! All the best Eric... you've got people rooting for you already
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Earl
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I've never heard or seen him before...
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... but I'm not very knowledgeable about such stuff anyway. But he "looks the part", is what I think, and that's a good start. At any rate it's great to hear of such "surprise" roles (Drogo Baggins, troll(s), and who knows what else), even if they're still not yet official
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In the words of Barliman Butterbur, "What his right name is I’ve never heard, but around here, he’s known as..."
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"... bob"
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Tim
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Sep 5 2010, 3:21pm
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What role did you audition for? I've gone over your threads and I don't see you telling us anywhere which one it is. You also mention telling them who you are after you audition... what are you some long lost Tolkien relative who doesn't want to get the part because of your Elven ancestry?
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth! Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Or at least that is what BoB has hinted at on at least one occasion.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.' www.arda-reconstructed.com
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Earl
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.... B-o-B auditioned for the role of a Dwarf, and his nick "bond of blood" is meant as a reference a relative of Thorin, which is the role of the Dwarf he auditioned for. He also posted a link to a youtube audio-only video of him reciting the Dwarf song "Far over the misty mountains old...", which I thought was very good as it really conjured a sense of mystery (to me!)
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Oh! I might've missed that (see my response to Tim) //
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Tim
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thanks Voronwe. Good luck with getting the part!
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth! Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
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and yeah I watched his youtube reading of the poem as I was going through his posts. It was quite good. Well for whatever role you've auditioned for BoB good luck to ya! Also appreciate you keeping us informed a bit on the progress of pre-production and casting.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth! Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
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... until I saw the other post that seemed to confirm that he had auditioned for Bard. But perhaps I was confused.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.' www.arda-reconstructed.com
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Thanks again Voronwe no worries
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Either Bard or Thorin are major roles as he mentioned in one of his posts. Maybe he'll step in here and answer heh heh heh.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth! Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Here is the post that I thought made it seem like Bard was the role: YES! Finally! As you can see if you follow the link, it was in response to Merlwynd saying "my vote is for bond of blood! Go son go!" in a discussion about actors for Bard.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.' www.arda-reconstructed.com
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That most definitely points towards the role of Bard.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth! Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
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Sep 5 2010, 7:19pm
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My memory of this is the same as Earl's...
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I'm sure Bob told us he was auditioning for a dwarf: There was a lot of discussion at one time about the appropriate accent. He also hinted that 'Bond-of-Blood' referred to 'his' dwarf being related to Thorin, and there was mention of 'a younger dwarf'. I think he also said at one time that Richard Armitage would be perfect for Bard.... Now I really AM confused!!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Which is why I was so surprised when I saw the "Yes, Finally" post that I mentioned above. Maybe BoB was purposefully trying to confuse us.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.' www.arda-reconstructed.com
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geordie
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Sep 5 2010, 10:05pm
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Maybe BoB was purposefully trying to confuse us. That's possible - certainly the accent (or accents) used in 'Far over the Misty Mountains' confused me. They seemed to wander about a bit, as I recall. Not sure what part of the world Bob was aiming at (if any). Anyhoo - doubtless all will be revealed in time..
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 5 2010, 10:38pm
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I am NOT suggesting that BoB is lying about being considered for a part in the films (I saw your sarcastic post at the LOTR Plaza, geordie, about people here at TORN claiming to be up for parts in the films). Rather, my comment about his purposefully confusing us referred to the possibility that he may have been asked by the powers that be to keep things ambiguous for now. I too have seen a lot of claims made at different forums that turned out to be completely bogus, and I've almost always been able to tell that from the start. I don't have that sense from BoB at all. I wanted to make sure that that was clear. In any event, as you say geordie, doubtless all will be made clear in time.
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 6 2010, 12:04am
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I've signed a non disclosure agreement with New Line so have to keep my comments vague and have had to remove my photo. I can tell you that I didn't audition for Bard..... ....but that's not to say I wont get cast as Bard. ;) Orlando auditioned for Faramir... but Liz though he'd make a better Legolas! I'll be posting a new You Tube reading to tease you all further....soon. Bond-of-Blood
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 6 2010, 12:10am
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I was just put on tape by casting last week in Los Angeles to play Drogo and am currently waiting for word. Here's to hopefully living the dream! Cheers everyone! -ERIC TIEDE Eric has since informed me that unfortunately he didn't get the part.
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Tim
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Sep 6 2010, 3:38am
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I was wondering why your photo got dropped off your posts. Well yes don't want to get you in trouble by all means follow the NDA.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: Follow. But. Follow only if ye be TORNsibs of valour, for the making of The Hobbit is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no TORNsib yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of an A List veteran director lie strewn about its lair. So, brave TORNsibs, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for Hollywood studio bureaucratic ineptitude awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth! Studio Exec: And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. Studio CEO: This new learning amazes me, Studio Lapdog. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
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etiede
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Sep 6 2010, 7:05am
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Thanks Mate! Lastest news here in L.A. is that production was being pushed again to January 2011, thus casting was being put on hold. I do know they decided they wanted a different accent for Drogo rather than the Standard English R.P. they originally asked for, so I'm hoping to get a chance to go back in again when casting resumes with more specific instructions on the characters dialect. Time will tell friends, but thanks for the support!
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 6 2010, 7:14am
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Thanks Mate! Lastest news here in L.A. is that production was being pushed again to January 2011, thus casting was being put on hold. I do know they decided they wanted a different accent for Drogo rather than the Standard English R.P. they originally asked for, so I'm hoping to get a chance to go back in again when casting resumes with more specific instructions on the characters dialect. Time will tell friends, but thanks for the support! Or should I say..".. my Axe!"
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Earl
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Sep 6 2010, 9:04am
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... in that case I'll be keeping my hopes up for you
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Earl
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Sep 6 2010, 9:06am
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I sort of figured why your pic was taken down...
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... but I didn't want to push it by asking. If it's that big a deal, you might want to ask the admins if they can strip the pics off of your older posts (as the pic still shows up on those) just to be safe
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Bond-Of-Blood
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... but I didn't want to push it by asking. If it's that big a deal, you might want to ask the admins if they can strip the pics off of your older posts (as the pic still shows up on those) just to be safe ..like Earl said. :)
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merlwynd
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Sep 6 2010, 9:54am
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Well I can vouch for bond of blood - he is the real deal! There are so many actors in the world that are vying for a part in these awesome movies and we should be backing him up. Go Bond-of-blood! We will see you on that silver screen very soon! I know we will........
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dormouse
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Sep 6 2010, 10:00am
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.... whoever you are!
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merlwynd
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Sep 6 2010, 11:47am
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lets all get on the bond of blood train as this trains a soon to be leaving!
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Earl
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merlwynd
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MERLWYND
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Earl
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Hmm, okay, now I'm as lost as Bilbo in the Goblins' caves :| //
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Ataahua
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We'll wait to see if your photo ever disappears from your posts. ;)
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..." Dwarves: "Pretty rings..." Men: "Pretty rings..." Sauron: "Mine's better." "Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak. Ataahua's stories
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SirDennisC
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Sep 6 2010, 8:14pm
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So... it's back to being a dwarf again?
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Out of curiosity, how tall are you? ... and best of luck!
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Altaira
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Sep 7 2010, 12:10pm
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Best of luck to you and Bond of Blood both!
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 7 2010, 3:57pm
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Same height as Sir Ian, Orlando and Viggo. Yet more importantly, slightly shorter than John Rhys Davies. ;) Thanks for the ongoing support everyone. Please keep visiting my YouTube page and leaving comments on my "The Hobbit - Misty Mountains" video to help my cause. BoB
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 7 2010, 4:19pm
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For those who haven't seen it yet...
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Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xG1h3LC5g&sns=em Mods, admins... any chance we can resurrect or sticky the original post for a while please? The video has over 500 views so far (all from here) and climbing. :)
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Eruonen
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Sep 14 2010, 6:23pm
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Brian Blessed is perfect as one of the "strong" lead Dwarves
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http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/1068/697/875/002/brian_blessed.jpg http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/brian-blessed.jpg
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Tim
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Sep 14 2010, 6:35pm
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I just have to exorcise the memory of Boss Nass (shudder) and I'll be fine with him in The Hobbit.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: No I don't talk about my love life for a very good reason, and that reason is I don't have one. Which is very good news for the ladies-I am still available. I'm a heck of a catch, cos, er well look at it. I live in Slough, in a lovely house, with my parents. I have my own room, which I've had since yep, since I was born. That's seen a lot of action I tell you. Mainly dusting. I went to university for a year as well, before I dropped out, so I'm a quitter. So, er, form an orderly queue ladies.
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dormouse
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Sep 14 2010, 6:44pm
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.. Brian Blessed as Beorn. He's pretty bear-like even without make-up!
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Eruonen
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Sep 14 2010, 7:24pm
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Brian has the booming voice, the menacing look and would wear hair well.
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Eruonen
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Sep 14 2010, 7:42pm
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I always associate him with Black Adder
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King Richard IV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_IV_of_England_(Blackadder) King Richard IV: As the good Lord said: "Love thy neighbour as thyself, unless he's Turkish, in which case, kill the bastard!" I can imagine Rowan Atkinson as a loathsome, scheming "Black Adder Hobbit"...Smeagol's cousin.
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Tim
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Sep 14 2010, 8:00pm
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The first time I saw Brian Blessed was in The Three Musketeers as Porthos. I think I'm the only person in this forum who hasn't seen Black Adder yet. George Lucas made him do some teerrrrrrilbe things in The Phantom Menace.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? Tim: There are some who call me... Tim. Tim: No I don't talk about my love life for a very good reason, and that reason is I don't have one. Which is very good news for the ladies-I am still available. I'm a heck of a catch, cos, er well look at it. I live in Slough, in a lovely house, with my parents. I have my own room, which I've had since yep, since I was born. That's seen a lot of action I tell you. Mainly dusting. I went to university for a year as well, before I dropped out, so I'm a quitter. So, er, form an orderly queue ladies.
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merlwynd
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Sep 22 2010, 11:59am
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indeed it was a......wellll......a blip!
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 25 2010, 7:09am
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Can you believe I just dropped another juicy morsel for the board to savour and discuss...... ..... and it got quickly gobbled up by the carrion birds..! I wonder how many more pieces of valuable information have been lost in the same fashion? I feel like I'm being treated like the little boy who cried wolf.... but I'm hunting with the pack!
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Tim
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Sep 25 2010, 2:55pm
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Some of us live in the States and go to bed and sleep and... stuff. *looks for coffee*
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 25 2010, 11:13pm
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.....how long it will take until someone decides to CENSOR my outspoken and controversial opinions. .....oh right..... already happened!
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 12:03am
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Don't give me a dwarven beat-down
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I was just sayin' I had to go to bed right as you brought up the female character.
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Bond-Of-Blood
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Sep 26 2010, 12:05am
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That wasnt directed at you.... sorry!
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Tim
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And don't feel censored speak yo mind. Differences of opinion and multiple sources of information are what make this place interesting.
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Bregolas
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Oct 11 2010, 4:39pm
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Why are there actors even being suggested for the part of the Necromancer? Isn't he in fact the Witchking of Angmar, a wraith, and thus faceless? I think giving him a face/personality would elicit some geek-tantrums from myself and perhaps a few others.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 11 2010, 9:23pm
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Kangi Ska The Hobbit is almost here. At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Bregolas
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Oct 12 2010, 1:40am
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The same goes for Sauron though.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -Thorin Oakenshield
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 12 2010, 2:16am
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One of the nine took over after Sauron relocated to Mordor.
Kangi Ska The Hobbit is almost here. At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Rayown
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Oct 14 2010, 4:13pm
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Clancy Brown as Smaug and Patrick Stewart as Thorin
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Really excited to see Clancy Brown at the top of that list!! I thought he would be the perfect choice! :D and the same goes for Patrick Stewart as Thorin. He would be AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!![
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Kangi Ska
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Warp 9 to the Lonely Mountain and load photon torpedoes!
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Thar be dragons here!
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esgaldel
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Oct 16 2010, 12:47am
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Brian Blessed WOULD BE PERFECT for the role of Thorin. When I was reading the book a long time ago, I had him on my mind all the time. Prince Vultan rules!!!!
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Patty
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Oct 16 2010, 9:56am
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Best of luck to all who are attempting to get a role in The Hobbit...
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it'll be the opportunity of a lifetime and would always be something you could look back on and be proud of.
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Tim
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Oct 17 2010, 2:17am
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Martin Freeman is Bilbo from the main page per Simon Pegg
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I believe I would bet $500 that Martin Freeman is the next Bilbo Baggins. Anyways no need for a question mark on the headline Simon Pegg just outed him point blank. Curious it wasn't put on the message board, maybe they wanted it here?
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Bregolas
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Oct 17 2010, 3:58am
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Clancy Brown? I disagree. (respectfully of course)
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From the way the book describes Smaug, I've always imagined him having a very charming, insidious, maybe even seductive voice. Clancy doesn't pull that off.
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Voorhas
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Oct 17 2010, 5:35am
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...I started reading the article assuming that Pegg was taking the mickey, but it's stated as a matter of fact in the piece. Who knows? If they're friends, it's possible Pegg is in on the secret.
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macfalk
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Oct 17 2010, 10:52am
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At the same time we've heard they have been auditioning back-up choices (unknowns) if Freeman wouldn't make it.
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macfalk
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Clearly the hardest to cast. GDT said he will develope all thirteen reasonably much but I have my doubts of how that will work. I wonder if Bifur, Bofur, Dwalin etc will be seen as extras and just "follow along".
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 17 2010, 11:51am
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How about Doppy, Sleepy & Grumpy?
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It only takes a couple of good lines to establish a character even if they remain primarily in the background.
Kangi Ska Resident Cynic The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Flagg
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Oct 17 2010, 1:26pm
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He played an evil scientist in the classic Crash Bandicoot games and his voice there sounds completely different to his usual work. I don't think there's any role he couldn't pull off.
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Oct 17 2010, 6:20pm
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Here's is his tweet: "Woah, woah, woah I did NOT confirm Martin Freeman was in The Hobbit. As far as I know, talks are ongoing. Hope he is. Great choice"
Maybe Guillermo was meant to just write the hobbit and PJ was meant to direct it. And that is an encouraging thought.
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Flagg
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Oct 17 2010, 6:45pm
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Damage control, perhaps? I think Pegg may have let slip more than he meant to in his previous tweet and now he's trying to cover it up...
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Tim
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Oct 17 2010, 6:55pm
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unless he's misquoted in the article he very clearly says Martin Freeman is in The Hobbit. We'll see soon I'm sure.
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duats
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Oct 17 2010, 7:40pm
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And I'm sure others have shared this idea. What if Smaug's voice was a fusion of a male and female voice - like the Angel of Death in Hellboy 2? It would give Smaug an otherwordly, inhuman, and almost androgynous voice.
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 17 2010, 8:03pm
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I was thinking poached in lake water and served with a nice green salad.//
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Kangi Ska Resident Bird Brain The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Voorhas
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Oct 17 2010, 8:15pm
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...it does sound like he's trying to walk it back.
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Flagg
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Oct 17 2010, 8:18pm
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that Martin Freeman will be playing Bilbo has been known behind the scenes for so long that actors are starting to forget they're not meant to mention it.
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Oiotári
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Oct 17 2010, 10:10pm
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The wide world is all about you: you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out You can only come to the morning through the shadows
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Oct 18 2010, 1:22am
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I could see him as Beorn but not Smaug.
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Altaira
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Both of those articles basically repeat rumors that have been circulating the internet and have been posted here in one form or another. Thanks to you and everyone who are keeping their eyes open and posting the various updates as you find them!
Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
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Rayown
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Oct 18 2010, 4:23am
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I can see that too. Hmmm....I wonder who they'll pick!
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Oct 18 2010, 4:25am
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DUDE!! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!!!
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I always imagined Hugh Jackman as Bard, with the dark hair, kind of a rugged Leopold from Kate and Leopold. But Clancy would pull off a pretty impressive Bard!!!
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macfalk
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Oct 18 2010, 8:39am
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Also caught this "Also looking likely is James Nesbitt, who, according to Pajiba’s Twitter feed, has already being offered a role - that of Bofur, one of the three dwarfs who accompany Bilbo on his quest. " Good research!
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Oct 18 2010, 10:07am
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Yikes! I sure hope people don't latch on to this typo... it could lead to some scary rumours
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ranger123
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Oct 18 2010, 10:59am
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I may have some new casting news
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Working on getting some confirmation.
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 18 2010, 11:30am
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You know...Sleepy, Dopy & Doc. Off to slay Puff the Magic Dragon. ;) //
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Kangi Ska Resident Bird Brain The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 18 2010, 11:35am
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So, you work in TV Network advertising?
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And that is the rest of the story.
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Patty
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Confirmation? Who needs confirmation?
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We also thrive on RUMORS. They fly through these threads and ignite us like lightning. Whatcha got?
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ranger123
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Oct 18 2010, 11:46am
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Haha, no afraid not, but here is the rumor....
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Irish actor Aidan Turner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2636108/) may be playing the role of both Fili & Kili I don't have any confirmation or links to prove that yet but there you go.
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Patty
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Oct 18 2010, 11:48am
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I hope they don't chose to make Kili and Fili nice looking (for dwarves). There should be no dwarven heart-throbs.
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dormouse
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Oct 18 2010, 1:03pm
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I think we're probably safe there....
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... it's a bit hard to cause cardiac throbbing from behind a great splodge of prosthetic face mask and a very, very long beard! On the casting front there seems to be a growing tide of mentions of David Tennant for 'an unnamed role'. Wonder what it could be?
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Oct 18 2010, 1:08pm
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David Tennant... I suddenly see him as Thranduil... though it'd be weird to imagine Orlando as his son ;) //
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dormouse
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Oct 18 2010, 1:44pm
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He certainly has the build and looks for an elf...
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... and he's a really good actor. I'd be happy to see him in the film, it was just the idea of him as a hobbit that seemed bizarre.
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Oct 18 2010, 1:46pm
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... if they're going for someone with "hobbity" mannerisms AND someone who resembles Sir Ian Holm, I personally believe Martin Freeman is the guy
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Oct 18 2010, 2:08pm
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Im sure its a typo or some kinda mistake cos that would cause mayhem if it were true, I know MGM are short of cash but this is rediculous.
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Oct 18 2010, 2:14pm
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sorry this my previous post was in reply to...
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"Also looking likely is James Nesbitt, who, according to Pajiba’s Twitter feed, has already being offered a role - that of Bofur, one of the three dwarfs who accompany Bilbo on his quest. "
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dormouse
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Oct 18 2010, 2:22pm
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... I did a double-take when I saw that, then assumed that the writer didn't know much about The Hobbit. After all, if you were whittling the thirteen dwarves down to three, I don't think you'd pick Bofur, would you? I think it's quite interesting that an actor has been rumoured for Bofur at all - it suggests that they're trying to bring out the individual characters of the 'lesser' dwarves.
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macfalk
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Oct 18 2010, 3:24pm
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Agreed Dormouse, Bofur is one of those "mute" dwarves
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If I had to press it down to 3 dwarves, I would take Thorin, Balin and Bombur. Certainly not Bofur!
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Oct 18 2010, 4:10pm
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Did you think Cate Blanchett as Liv Tyler's granny was weird too?
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Oct 18 2010, 4:15pm
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/...ankenstein-and-more/ Here's an interview with Doug Jones. It was made after the greenlight announcement, but there's not much new info. They talk about The Hobbit for the first few minutes. Apparently Guillermo never told *anyone* which role he had planned for Jones, and no one (including Jones and del Toro) knows if he's still up for a part. However, Jones is still interested in appearing in the films; he says he hopes Peter Jackson 'remembers' him. I think there's hope yet...
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 18 2010, 5:30pm
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Kangi Ska Resident Bird Brain The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Oct 18 2010, 10:41pm
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is currently voicing a very convincing dragon in 'Merlin' - but it wouldn't do to have Smaug sounding like he lurked around Camelot. Ooh - Mark Gatiss? He can do silky menace very well.
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Oct 18 2010, 11:09pm
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Cast announcement "expected shortly"!
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A spokesman for New Line cinema refused to confirm any casting details, saying that "nothing is finalised", but added that an announcement was expected shortly. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/freeman-to-lead-british-invasion-into-middle-earth-2110275.html
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Oct 19 2010, 1:27am
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In studio speak is probably another month or two. Course, I'd love to be wrong.
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Tim
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Oct 19 2010, 1:35am
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but if they're really starting in February they don't have that long they have to start carting people over to New Zealand asap.
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Oct 19 2010, 2:40am
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In studio speak is probably another month or two. Course, I'd love to be wrong. I've heard of casting announcements from other films before, when the movie itself won't start filming till a few more months ahead. If they're starting in February, they need to secure cast now, unless they wanna wait till one month before which is nonsense.
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Oct 19 2010, 6:02am
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Cate has this "timelessness" about her...
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... which totally makes her believable as Liv's grandmother, besides that fact that (in Sam's words) she seems both "old and young"
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Oct 19 2010, 4:04pm
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Assuming they're filming in NZ at all...
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 19 2010, 6:04pm
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I would have auditioned for Roac
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But the makeup would be a problem.
Kangi Ska the Tao Bird The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Oct 19 2010, 6:52pm
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I am just happy we are talking about casting....
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I have great faith whoever is picked will do a terrific job. Kangi...what is the origin of your Avatar?
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Gimilkhad
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Oct 19 2010, 7:37pm
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...it's starting to feel like 1999 again!
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Oct 19 2010, 7:48pm
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Mickey Rourke would make an excellent Beorn.
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Tim
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Oct 19 2010, 8:07pm
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I have just barely recovered from his poor Russian performance in Iron Man 2, please don't subject me to him in The Hobbit. I'll have nine and half weeks of shudders.
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Gimilkhad
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Oct 19 2010, 8:22pm
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I really expected Ron Perlman as Beorn, he's Guillermos old friend and he plays bulky animalistic characters so well. Still hoping.
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macfalk
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Oct 19 2010, 8:29pm
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Rourke? No,no,no as far away as possible please. //
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The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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duats
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Oct 19 2010, 8:33pm
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I will admit to the poor Iron Man 2 performance
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But I'm judging him based on his talent as a whole. The man has range and intensity.
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Oct 20 2010, 2:24am
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Just found this. "Peter Mullan, Ewan Stewart, Gary Lewis and Gilly Gilchrist are in the running for roles as dwarves in The Hobbit" http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/...-up-for-Hobbit-film/ Some of them have already been in a few movies together. Perhaps they will mix well together creating that same sort of fellowship that our beloved actors from LOTR did.
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