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Dcole4
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 8:40pm
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My god that is beautiful. The EE does a better job of selling me on the CGI Dain, but I really do regret that they didn't use the practical Billy, with that gorgeous axe. What a damn shame.
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 8:41pm
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it seems to be due to Billy's inability to walk around in his armor...
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I could be wrong on this, but it sure looks like he's having some trouble moving around in his armor. And that wouldn't work in the film, for sure...
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 8:42pm
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"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 8:44pm
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Just kidding, moving on... ignore this post...
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Oct 20 2015, 8:44pm
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She really looks good as a dwarf.
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NecromancerRising
Grey Havens
Oct 20 2015, 8:46pm
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was unfortunately a lame design. They should have gone to other routes of practical if they did not use the CGI Dain imo. And i prefer his great red hammer over this axe to be honest.
"You cannot find peace by avoiding life"
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Arannir
Valinor
Oct 20 2015, 8:59pm
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"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Eleniel
Tol Eressea
Oct 20 2015, 9:18pm
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Do they say why they swapped the red axe for Thrain's hammer??? //
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"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:18pm
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The set design is gorgeous, of course, but I'm afraid I don't have too much to say about the penultimate section of the appendices... they're just going over how the locations were made and how impressive they were. Not as interesting to me as characters designs and motivations :-)
There is a final section coming up soon that is a half-hour reflection on doing these appendices for 15 years, and saying goodbye to Middle-earth. I imagine that will be one of the best parts of the entire set.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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Faleel
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:20pm
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So there was no deleted LOTR scene?
A joke video?
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:20pm
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Nor do they mention anything about CGI Dain. I have a feeling that will be unavoidable in the commentary, though we won't get to hear than until the disc release in November.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:21pm
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There was a scene from the ROTK EE I didn't recall, with Gimli and Legolas on a horse, Gimli saying he wished he could get a dwarf army to join them. Like I said, I just didn't recognize it, but people seem familiar with it according to Google.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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CathrineB
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:25pm
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I don't have the EE yet sadly, but... ahh! Aidan and Dean finally hugs!! I love those two <3 That made my day =D That's up in the adorableness along with Dean taking Aidan's hand in DoS or AUJ loool. 
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:33pm
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I can't remember who asked if there was any mention of a Palantir at Dol Guldur, but I'm now watching the video on Dol Guldur, which to me is actually the most interesting location in the film as its corruption extends outward to Greenwood, creating Mirkwood.
Anyway, PJ extends it as an old Numenorean fortress that has gone to ruin.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:45pm
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There's a green screen shot of Gandalf looking at a Palantir, which PB saying "we conjectured that there may very well have been a Palantir in there." (Dol Guldur).
Daniel Falconer says at one point, they needed to give Gandalf a sense of urgency to get to the mountain. So they were going to use the Palantir to show him what could happen if Smaug didn't die. There's a *very* quick finished shot of him touching the Palantir, and some concept art of Smaug leading legions of Orcs for Sauron. Very cool stuff.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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PryftanAW
Bree
Oct 20 2015, 9:53pm
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Could you uploade an screenshot of that Scene? I think everyone her want to know how this Scene could have looked
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Dcole4
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 9:54pm
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Oy, the fact that they're showing this stuff squashes a lot of the rumors of a super-extended edition. I just wish they were more forthcoming with the Beorn footage. :(
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 10:05pm
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PB also says "in the end, we realize we didn't need it. And so it's there for keen eyes to spot."
Next post will have screens!
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 10:13pm
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enjoy.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 10:21pm
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Alan Lee, John Howe and Philippa Boyens describe an excursion Gandalf was to take to the Sea of Rhun, southeast of Erebor. The idea was that Sauron would climb to the talk of this tall rock with a seeing seat (think Amon Hen), and Gandalf would chase him to the top, whereat Sauron would disappear. This got vetoed because, in fact, Gandalf needs to get to the Battle to warn his friends of the impending danger. And so we have "leave Sauron to me."
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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Laineth
Lorien
Oct 20 2015, 10:21pm
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First of all, thank you SO MUCH for doing this!!!!
Second: During BotFA press, Evie mentioned that PJ cut her favorite Tauriel scene, and told her it would be in the EE. Are we told or shown anything about it?
Thank you again!!! 
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 10:24pm
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I didn't see anything about that...
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First of all, thank you SO MUCH for doing this!!!! Second: During BotFA press, Evie mentioned that PJ cut her favorite Tauriel scene, and told her it would be in the EE. Are we told or shown anything about it? Thank you again!!!
You're very welcome! Unless I mistook her saying she was happy something was cut, I didn't see anything mentioned by her about her favorite scene being reinstated or even mentioned during the section on her character. I'm wrapping up the last hour of appendices now, so I'll report if I see anything along those lines :-)
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Oct 20 2015, 10:29pm
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Alan Lee, John Howe and Philippa Boyens describe an excursion Gandalf was to take to the Sea of Rhun, southeast of Erebor. The idea was that Sauron would climb to the talk of this tall rock with a seeing seat (think Amon Hen), and Gandalf would chase him to the top, whereat Sauron would disappear. This got vetoed because, in fact, Gandalf needs to get to the Battle to warn his friends of the impending danger. And so we have "leave Sauron to me."
Something like that might have worked if Peter Jackson had kept to something like the timeline of the book, with the White Council assaulting Dol Guldur around the time that the company reached Lake-town, and when that would still have been a month more-or-less before Durin's Day. I am miffed that the "devices of Saruman" did not play a larger role in driving Sauron out of Mirkwood.
I also feel that, if Sauron somehow did have a palantir at Dol Guldur then it should have been better looked-after and not just out in the open.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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Oakensword
The Shire
Oct 20 2015, 10:30pm
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That Sea of Rhun thing is really interesting!
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The screenshots are a lovely appetizer for us overseas too, so thanks a million!
Broken record here but was there any talk of the Witch-King or Galadriel using Black Speech?
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nusilver
Rohan
Oct 20 2015, 10:40pm
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Glad you're enjoying my posts - I wanted to share as much info as I humanly could as soon as I realized the digital release was delayed in many places.
There doesn't seem to be any footage of Galadriel reciting black speech; there is a tiny bit of discussion about the ring wraiths and how different all their origins are, but if I recall correctly, they only really mention Kamul the Easterling, who is the Witch King's lieutenant. No Morgul Blade talk.
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer." - Samwise
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