Our Sponsor Sideshow Send us News
Lord of the Rings Tolkien
Search Tolkien
Lord of The RingsTheOneRing.net - Forged By And For Fans Of JRR Tolkien
Lord of The Rings Serving Middle-Earth Since The First Age

Lord of the Rings Movie News - J.R.R. Tolkien

  Main Index   Search Posts   Who's Online   Log in
The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: TV Discussion: The Rings of Power: Kings, Sorcerers, Warriors: Edit Log


Jan 28, 7:55pm

Views: 334
Kings, Sorcerers, Warriors

In Reply To
The Nazgûl were comprised of men who were originally "kings, sorcerers, and warriors of old". However, Tolkien describes the three Númenóreans who succumbed to Sauron's temptations as "great lords" (The Silmarillion). Even Herumor and Fuinur, two Númenóreans who lived after the Akallabêth, ie. after the death of the last King of Númenor, don't appear to have used kingly titles in exile - they are described as lords who hold sway over the Haradrim.

But I agree with you, it's conceivable that they could have styled themselves as kings in later years. If the Lord of the Nazgûl was one of these Númenóreans, then one of them certainly gets a (Witch-)kingly moniker, in the Third Age if not earlier.

Tolkien's exact phrasing might matter here: "Men proved easier to ensnare. Those who used the Nine Rings became mighty in their day, kings, sorcerers, and warriors of old. They obtained glory and great wealth, yet it turned to their undoing."

To me, that indicates that at least some of these Men (such as the future Witch-king) did not take such titles as "king" until after they made use of the power of the Rings. And it was with the Rings that some became powerful sorcerers, doubtless under the tutelage of Sauron. Of course, some or all of them had probably achieved some measure of greatness before they ever came under the thumb of Sauron. We do know of Khamul who was apparently a king of an Easterling people either before of after he was gifted with one of the Nine Rings.


(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Jan 28, 8:06pm)

Edit Log:
Post edited by Otaku-sempai (Immortal) on Jan 28, 8:06pm

Search for (options) Powered by Gossamer Forum v.1.2.3

home | advertising | contact us | back to top | search news | join list | Content Rating

This site is maintained and updated by fans of The Lord of the Rings, and is in no way affiliated with Tolkien Enterprises or the Tolkien Estate. We in no way claim the artwork displayed to be our own. Copyrights and trademarks for the books, films, articles, and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the fair use clause of the Copyright Law. Design and original photography however are copyright © 1999-2012 TheOneRing.net. Binary hosting provided by Nexcess.net

Do not follow this link, or your host will be blocked from this site. This is a spider trap.