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Eruonen
Valinor


Aug 10 2021, 2:52pm


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When Gimli asks Aragorn to keep the Army of The Dead - here is why it would be a bad idea

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Hilário Alencar
Middle-earth expert.May 23, 2020
In Lord of the Rings, what would happen if the Army of the Dead was sent to Mordor to defeat Sauron and his armies instead of fighting at Gondor?
Here’s what would happen:

"First, it is worth noting that spirits are physically impotent (that's why some of them invade bodies), they cannot hurt the living, only terrify them, although Tolkien says that the Oathbreakers broke Baldor's legs.

Anyway, if the Oathbreakers went beyond its oath and attacked Mordor, I don't think there were too many of them to such a task, Mordor was a very great realm with hundreds of forts and some very strong places like Barad-dűr, Minas Morgul and the Black Gate defended by countless orcs, men and evil creatures.

At first, they could terrify the Orcs and Men, but not an entire army. But even all of Mordor's military force would be useless because spirits are indestructible by any power except Eru.

Here comes the power of Sauron, in the past naked spirits were dominated by Morgoth. Sauron however developed necromancy, which in Middle Earth is the art of imprisoning spirits in bodies, and he taught this practice to some of his servants.

Some were enslaved by the Dark Lord and do his work still, though he himself is gone. They will not speak truth or wisdom. To call on them is folly. To attempt to master them and to make them servants of one own's will is wickedness. Such practices are of Morgoth; and the necromancers are of the host of Sauron his servant.



Or the Houseless may plead for shelter, and if it is admitted, then it will seek to enslave its host and use both his will and his body for its own purposes. It is said that Sauron did these things, and taught his followers how to achieve them.


It was in this way that they created the Barrow-Wights. If they reached the Nazgűl, or the Mouth of Sauron and others like that they were in danger of being imprisoned.

And if they reached Sauron they would be just naked minds in the face of the terror of the Great eye.

A cold voice answered: ‘Come not between the Nazgűl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.’

But the worst is that the Oathbreakers were previously Sauron worshipers. So if they saw him again, they would most likely panic, if that is possible.

It definitely wouldn't be a good idea on Aragorn's part."

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