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ProudFeet
Nevrast

Jun 10 2020, 10:54am


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Age may have changed me...

I was considering Gandalf's and Galadriel's introduction at Rivendell before the White Council scene takes place in An Unexpected Journey. Whilst I didn't have a problem with these lines when I first saw the film, after delving into the lore much more over the subsequent years, I now find their lines problematic.

Galadriel's opening line is 'It has been a long time', referring to the last time she saw Gandalf. But in the lore, the White Council met 90 years previous at the second meeting. And, as we are told by Thranduil in Desolation of Smaug 'A hundred years is a mere blink in the life of an elf'.

Gandalf then replies with 'Age may have changed me but not so the Lady of Lórien'. This may have been mentioned on a thread before but as a Maia, Gandalf can change his form seemingly whenever he desires; only taking the form of an old man to effectively blend in with the inhabitants of the world. Indeed as all the Istari did. The Silmarillion does say that the Istari 'changed little with the years, and aged but slowly...' I have to assume that Gandalf would not have altered in appearance a considerable amount since the last time he saw Galadriel.

As a movie, it functions fine and I guess the 'It has been a long time' serves as a meta reference that it has been a long time since the audience has seen Galadriel since Return of the King. And also the 'Age may have changed me but not so the Lady of Lórien' serving as a reference to Cate Blanchett barely ageing in real life.

What do you guys think of the line or perhaps how it could have been reworded to make sense in the greater lore?


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