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Sep 10, 11:28am

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There's that one part

in the description of his reason for refusing the office... "...since he would have no ties and no allegiance, save to those who sent him... " sounds like it was part of his charge when he was sent here. You can't properly head a committee, meeting, or war when you're on the Road... and Saruman lost track of HIS purpose as soon as he took up residency in Orthanc. So I don't necessarily see it as a humble-brag but as an explanation of why he wouldn't/couldn't commit to one place or one cause. But he is, I'm sure, allowed to have favourite places... like the Shire. I'm thinking he felt the most "at home" there as he so thoroughly enjoyed those silly hobbits and their simple way of life. Like a wonderful vacation. He was careful to keep them secret and safe... but it became more difficult when Bilbo himself gave up their existence while debating with Gollum.

It seems that the one time Gandalf did respond to a summons (when Saruman sent Radagast to "find" Gandalf and send him to Orthanc), he was betrayed and imprisoned. It tells me that any time Gandalf was drawn to other "meetings" it was probably via the thought-sharing method commonly used between Elrond, Galadriel, etc. In this case, Saruman didn't expose his thoughts to Gandalf when he (Saruman) wanted to summon Gandalf because he knew more of his intention might be revealed.

Ahh... the White Council. I've never found an official list in the stories/appendices, but it was primarily made up of Ring-bearers (Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel) and Círdan (former Ring-bearer) and other Wizards and Elves to include Glorfindel (Firstborn/faced the 9), Saruman and Radagast. There must have been others (Celeborn, Thranduil?). It would stand to reason that Celeborn would be there and Radagast/Thranduil since the confrontation was in their neighbourhood... Mirkwood. I'll bet there are TORnsibbies who are MUCH more knowledgeable about this than I am :D


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