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Sep 8, 6:37am

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In addition to the problem of coming up with new material that seems congruous with the material Tolkien has already written, another problem facing the writers is how to tie up loose ends left by Tolkien. One that I've already noted is the date of the Nķmenůreans' arrival to relieve the Elvish forces during the War of the Elves and Sauron. This is said to have happened in 1700, and the fleet was said to have been sent by King Tar-Minastir. However, it is also said that his predecessor, Queen Tar-TelperiŽn, was an isolationist who refused to give up the Sceptre until her death in 1731. So, assuming the writers tell this story, either Tar-TelperiŽn has to die earlier, or the war has to end (and perhaps begin) later, or Minastir has to obtain permission from Queen Tar-TelperiŽn to send the fleet, or he has to send it without her permission, and possibly without her knowledge.

This need not be seen as an inconsistency. In fact, you've already suggested the most logical solution: Minastir convinces his aunt Queen Tar-TelperiŽn that it is in the best interests of Nķmenor to come to the aid of the Elves of Lindon. I think it would raise too many hackles if he sailed a force to Middle-earth against the queen's wishes or without her knowledge. I also don't see any need to alter the timeline.

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Another issue is Elros' ears. Of course, this isn't a problem if we insist that Tolkien's Elves (and the Half-Elven) don't have pointed ears. I'd rather not get too deep into that discussion here. Whatever Tolkien's intention may have been, I would say most people think of Elves as having pointed ears, and Tolkien's Elves, when depicted in a visual medium, are typically depicted with pointed ears, probably in part because it helps distinguish them from Men. Also, it appears Amazon wants to follow in Peter Jackson's footsteps, visually, at least. So, if Amazon wants to depict Elros, they need to decide whether to depict him as having pointed ears or not. Given that he's Half-Elven, and Elrond's identical twin, it makes sense that he would have pointed ears. But he also chose to be a Man. So do his ears lose their pointiness when he becomes a mortal Man, or do they retain their pointiness, but the trait disappears as his descendants intermarry with other Men, who presumably do not have pointy ears? The latter makes the most sense to me.

What other problems has Tolkien left for Amazon's creative team to tackle?

I don't think that Elros' physical appearance would have altered when he gained mortality. The trait of pointed ears might have been lost, though, in succeeding generations. I can't think of any other major issues that haven't already been brought up in previous discussions.

"Change is inevitable. Growth is optional." - DRWolf (after John C. Maxwell)

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Sep 8, 6:37am)

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