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Darkstone
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Sep 4 2018, 7:36am


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If it looks like a silmaril, scintillates like a silmaril, and engenders possessive lust like a silmaril....

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands.
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency




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Well put! I agree that it's as close to a silmaril as we will get in this era of the world.


Silmaril:

Therefore even in the darkness of the deepest treasury the Silmarils of their own radiance shone like the stars of Varda; and yet, as were they indeed living things, they rejoiced in light and received it and gave it back in hues more marvellous than before.
-Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor


Arkenstone:

It was the Arkenstone, the Heart of the Mountain. So Bilbo guessed from Thorinĺs description; but indeed there could be no two such gems, even in so marvellous a hoard, even in all the world. Even as he climbed, the same white gleam had shone before him and drawn his feet towards it. Slowly it grew to a little globe of pallid light. Now, as he came near, it was tinged with a flickering sparkle of many colours at the surface, reflected and splintered from the wavering light of his torch. At last he looked down upon it, and he caught his breath. The great jewel shone before his feet of its own inner light, and yet, cut and fashioned by the dwarves, who had dug it up from the heart of the mountain long ago, it took all light that fell upon it and changed it into ten thousand sparks of white radiance shot with glints of the rainbow.
-Not At Home


But which silmaril was it?

But the jewel burned the hand of Maedhros in pain unbearable; and he perceived that it was as E÷nwŰ had said, and that his right thereto had become void, and that the oath was vain. And being in anguish and despair he cast himself into a gaping chasm filled with fire, and so ended; and the Silmaril that he bore was taken into the bosom of the Earth.
-Of the Voyage of Eńrendil and the War of Wrath


But how did that silmaril end up geologically deposited under Erebor?

Then ManwŰ upon the Mountain called upon Il˙vatar, and for that time the Valar laid down their government of Arda. But Il˙vatar showed forth his power, and he changed the fashion of the world; and a great chasm opened in the sea between N˙menor and the Deathless Lands, and the waters flowed down into it, and the noise and smoke of the cataracts went up to heaven, and the world was shaken.
-The Downfall of N˙menor

Yep. That'd do it.


In any case, we will get another silmaril (hopefully) in the next era of the world.

The original concept of a simaril:

Even among the Eldar she was accounted beautiful, and her hair was held a marvel unmatched. It was golden like the hair of her father and her foremother Indis, but richer and more radiant, for its gold was touched by some memory of the star-like silver of her mother; and the Eldar said that the light of the Two Trees, Laurelin and Telperion, had been snared in her tresses. Many thought that this saying first gave to FŰanor the thought of imprisoning and blending the light of the Trees that later took shape in his hands as the Silmarils. For FŰanor beheld the hair of Galadriel with wonder and delight. He begged three times for a tress, but Galadriel would not give him even one hair.
-HoME XII, Morgoth's Ring, The Shibboleth of FŰanor


The silmaril as it was originally meant to be:

'But tell me, what would you do with such a gift? '
`Treasure it, Lady,' he answered, `in memory of your words to me at our first meeting. And if ever I return to the smithies of my home, it shall be set in imperishable crystal to be an heirloom of my house, and a pledge of good will between the Mountain and the Wood until the end of days.'
Then the Lady unbraided one of her long tresses, and cut off three golden hairs, and laid them in Gimli's hand.

-Farewell to Lorien

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(This post was edited by Darkstone on Sep 4 2018, 7:40am)


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