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The Shire

Apr 20, 9:40pm

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Points of clarification...

There is no evidence that this has happened and the few comments Amazon has made imply the series will be more directly tied to LOTR than to earlier history.

What few comments might those be?

I see none clearly indicative of the 'when' question. All we know is the series' status as a prequel, set prior to the events of LOTR. The timeline of the previously "unexplored" prequel has not been revealed to the public, as-of-yet. So, your assumption that it will be Young Aragorn is not evidenced either. We don't know for certain how close in time it will be to the War of the Ring.

I want to reiterate that I did not actually suggest there was any tangible evidence pointing in this direction, in my OP.

Rather, I merely argued that in contrast to the Silmarillion (which Hollywood Reporter indicated in explicit terms hadn't been covered by the deal), no incontrovertible clarification has been put out on this point, and the phrase "original writings" for the press release, is vague and open-ended enough to still admit this as a (remote) possibility.

I'm not getting my own or others hopes up here. My argument consisted purely on the assumption of them relying upon the Appendices, anyway, so this was simply a bit of secondary speculation on my part.

There's no reason that a Young Aragorn series can't include the stuff you mention. If it focuses on Aragorn's time as Thorongil, which is what we know the most about, then the source material already includes multiple-kingdom-spanning action and politics.

Yes, Aragorn travels widely throughout Middle-Earth but on loosely connected "journeys" in Rohan and Gondor (as well as further afield) which don't really lead anywhere substantive and which aren't guided by an overarching, epic narrative on the scale of the War of the Ring or the Last Alliance.

Regardless of what tack the screenwriters take they will have to invent a great deal of material, and I see no reason to think they wouldn't do so with a Young Aragorn series in order to flesh out the information in the Appendices with character arcs and a greater supporting cast.


Sure, a great deal of material will have to be invented by the screenwriters either way but the problem with the Young Aragorn arc can be put plainly as follows: it doesn't and quite simply cannot, by its very nature (if they are to remain even moderately faithful to the events of the books and films), amount to anything epic or grandiose in scale to rival the LoTR films or GoT.

It essentially ends with the Hunt for Smeagol, and this is barely (if at all) connected to Aragorn's earlier errands like his raid on the Corsairs of under Echthelion. You aren't going to see Aragorn crowned, because that happens in LoTR, for instance.

Young Aragorn is obviously a prequel to Aragorn's plot in LOTR of growing into becoming the restored King of Gondor but it doesn't really function well as a true prequel to LOTR itself, in my opinion, in the same way that a Last Alliance storyline would (by ending where the prologue in the films and the assumed back story to the novels, filled in especially by an info-dump from Elrond in Fellowship, begins).

According to the Appendices Aragorn spent little time in Eriador, period. It's doubtful he had much of anything to do with the protection of the Shire since his main purpose was "labour[ing] in the cause against Sauron", both in the service of Rohan and Gondor, and later traveling "alone far into the East and deep into the South, exploring the hearts of Men, both evil and good, and uncovering the plots and devices of the servants of Sauron."

I should note, I was being deliberately facetious with that comment Tongue

Naturally, I don't reasonably expect a Young Aragorn TV series would be concerned with him "strolling around the hills of the Shire" sucking berries and hanging out with the Hobbits.

And as Otaku said, I started this thread without taking into consideration the full ambit of Aragorn's travels and I thank the good people here for clarifying aspects of this, as you do above. However, I still don't see the epic potential in the coming-of-age, chivalrous errantries of Aragorn as Thorongil.

I mean, honestly, does it really amount to a grand narrative worthy of a five-season extravaganza to rival the LoTR films/GOT and a fortune equivalent to a small country's GDP?

(This post was edited by Althoun on Apr 20, 9:51pm)

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