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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit: Recover the Arkenstone. Unite the Dwarves.: Edit Log



Otaku-sempai
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Apr 20 2018, 4:32pm


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Recover the Arkenstone. Unite the Dwarves.


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Did PJ drop the ball on this or did events at Erebor overtake Thorin and his original plan? I suppose that plan was to sneak away with the Arkenstone and rally all the Dwarves, but that went awry and Dain turned up anyway.


If we go back to the prologue of The Desolation of Smaug with Thorin and Gandalf in Bree, we learn that his was exactly the plan. Gandalf urged Thorin to unite the Dwarves and with their combined might take back Erebor. However, in the film-canon Thorin could not accomplish this without the Arkenstone which was still in the treasure-chamber in the Mountain. At this point Gandalf remarks that they are going to need a burglar.

In book-canon, the King under the Mountain had no authority to command the other Houses of the Dwarves. They only united for the War of the Dwarves and Orcs over the outrage perpetrated by Azog against Thror and the Longbeards. They were not obligated to do so by any previous oaths.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Apr 20 2018, 4:34pm)


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