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The Shire

Dec 11 2013, 8:50pm

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My thoughts

Hello everyone.

This is my first post here but I have been reading for quite a while.
I just saw the Desolation of Smaug last night at the midnight premiere. And here are some of my thoughts. (Contains spoilers).

Prologue. Movie opening scene with Gandalf and Thorin in rainy Bree is great. By the way, Peter Jacksonís cameo is in very first seconds of the film so you canít really miss that.

There is not much Beorn in this movie and all his scenes feel little rushed. I have a feeling we will get more Beorn in the extended edition, perhaps he will have a scene with Gandalf in the night as seen in the original scroll? The design of Beorn is in my opinion one of the worst in any of these movies. Bear form does not look very much like a bear to me and the human form looks kind of strange. Overall I am little disappointed by this section.

Mirkwood sequence also felt little rushed but I hope EE will fix this too with more material. (Bombur and the Enchanted River). Bilbo above the trees is a nice touch. Spiders are creepy and Bilbo can only hear them talk when he is wearing the Ring. Bilbo saves the dwarves and names the Sting and he has nice little scene of realization when he picks up the Ring he had dropped earlier.

Woodland Realm and Thranduil are great. In one scene Thranduil says something that he has seen dragons before and big scar appears on his cheek. At that moment I had a feeling that there was going to be a flashback scene. (I donít know why I had this feeling, was there some rumors some time ago that we will see some flashback scene in Thranduilís halls, I donít really remember?) The elven guards are drunk, which is good because I though this may not happen, because of the Legolas / Gimli drinking scene in LOTR.

Laketown sequence was kind of nice, except the unnecessary fighting scene. First they introduced Laketown as a very well-guarded place but somehow the orcs managed to sneak in and fight with the dwarves, Legolas and Tauriel without nobody seeing them. Laketown is definitely one of my favorite designs in this movie.

After getting inside the Lonely Mountain, Thorin sends Bilbo to look for the Arkenstone. Smaug is magnificent. The way he speaks does not look stupid at all like some people feared (not many). Bilbo spotted the weak spot in Smaugís armor. We get some of Bilboís barrel rider speech (more Tolkien dialogue the better). The conversation between Bilbo and Smaug is amazing. Thorin stops Bilbo and ask him does he have the Arkenstone, but Bilbo doesnít give it to Thorin. Then Smaug comes and rest is just one huge battle with crazy stunts and other stuff. Then Smaug heads to Laketown and the movie ends with a cliffhanger first time in PJís Middle-Earth films. The ending scene with Smaug in rage is excellent.

There is no Thrain in this film. Now I am really confused when Gandalf is going to meet him. Either it will be on the same sequence on the extended edition. But I still hope they have edited it so that Gandalf gets the key and map from Thrain in flashback in Dol Guldur like it really happened.

High Fells scene is just quick scene where Gandalf realizes Necromancer must be Sauron. Then he goes to Dol Guldur and faces Sauron. We get to see Gandalf use some spells until heís staff is broken and he is captured by Sauron. I liked how you can see Sauron but he is still just kind of unbodied spirit. I donít really like Gandalf being captured though. He will probably be saved by the White Council and Galadriel as has been speculated here. Bird poop Radagast only makes a brief appearance.

I donít mind Tauriel as a character, but her romance with Kili is by far the worst part of the movie. First they are flirting in the dungeons and then Tauriel even goes after him to Laketown to save his life. The healing scene is very awkward and corny with Kiliís Ďíitís just a dreamíí line and Tauriel shining like Arwen in the FOTR. It also looks like Legolas has a crush on Tauriel which makes it a love triangle.

I have no complaints about the quality of the CGI. Especially Smaug is top notch. Only the Elves running in trees after the barrels and huge melting gold statue look little bad. I do however miss the more realistic and less cartoony version of Middle-Earth we saw in LOTR. I know they have built many great sets for these movies too, but they have also used much more computer backgrounds and CGI characters which makes these movie look little less real world. However the color grading definitely helped to make this movie a little more like the LOTR trilogy.

However I do really like the 48 fps and 3D. Films are definitely made for the big screen.

Martin Freeman, Sir Ian McKellen, Richard Armitage are all great. Lee Pace is as good as expected. Evangeline Lillyís performance is not bad, but as I said I donít really like her thing with Kili and her role overall is way too big.

One of my main complaints about this film is that it has WAY too much action scenes. Dwarves fighting spiders, elves fighting spiders, barrel ride rollercoaster with super Bombur, orcs in laketown, Legolas vs Bolg, Gandalf in Dol Guldur, and Smaug vs the dwarves in Erebor.
Especially the final battle between Smaug and dwarves is way too long. In my opinion these kind of stunt fights donít fit well into this universe. But I understand that this is what the general audience wants to see so it is what it is. I would just prefer more time in Beornís house or Mirkwood than these super long fighting sequences.

I do wish we had got more of the actual Hobbit. I donít have any problems with added scenes like more story to Bard or bringing the Dol Guldur story line in, but when they change some major things we know didnít really happen (like Azog) it sometimes takes me out of the film universe.

At the end I did enjoy many parts of the film and I have a feeling we might get more material in the extended edition this time around. Soon you will all get to see the movie so hopefully you will enjoy it.

(This post was edited by Grimbold on Dec 11 2013, 8:54pm)

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Post edited by Grimbold (The Shire) on Dec 11 2013, 8:52pm
Post edited by Grimbold (The Shire) on Dec 11 2013, 8:54pm

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