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Semper Fi

Sep 29 2013, 7:12pm

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Well, writers are clueless

about who makes the cut as the leader. Maybe it plays out differently in the movie, but based on all the hotheaded, too passionate, not wise enough, can't restrain herself talk about Tauriel's personality, you bet she would never make the cut as any military leader, especially when youth, wrong side of the tracks (Silvan) and lack of experience (older warriors surely have more) work against her on top of unsuitable personality (for that rank, not for soldiering in general). I'm sorry but who in their right mind would ever promote such a person to the rank of Captain? I get that this is a fantasy movie but fantasy works the best when based in some reality and this is not it. This is not based on women in military research or military research in general. It sounds like a compilation of fanfiction tropes. And lets not forget that Tauriel (formerly Itaril) was meant to be played by a teenager! So, yeah, so clueless.

OTOH, Tolkien didn't try to pass Eowyn as a warrior pro. She went into the battle on impulse and pretty much signed up for a different job when it was over. Didn't lead, didn't do anything a senior officer would be asked to do. And leaving her post as the possibly last surviving member of her royal family does show she would not be a good Queen. I never said Tolkien punished her for anything. IMO, he perfectly assessed that she was not the political, ruler type and gave her station that is more suitable and in character (a Princess who is also a healer/doctor). That one was not cut to be a Queen is not an insult. Some people are , some aren't. Eowyn was too implsive for that. But Tolkien knew that and developed the character accordingly. He didn't go "gee, but she's slain the Witch King so she should be the Queen, never mind that she put the dynasty and political stability of Rohan in jeopardy". Seeing fighting prowess as alpha and omega of everything is not seeing forest for trees. It's a big tree but it isn't a forest that makes one a Queen or Captain. Tolkien didn't make that mistake but then again, he didn't live in the Age of Fanfic either. Laugh So who knows how LOTR and Hobbit would turn out if he did.

And I'm not forgetting that it's Evie casting that saved us from Teenuriel not how the character is envisioned.

"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards

Tauriel saved us from Itaril. Never forget.

(This post was edited by Semper Fi on Sep 29 2013, 7:18pm)

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Post edited by Semper Fi (Rohan) on Sep 29 2013, 7:13pm
Post edited by Semper Fi (Rohan) on Sep 29 2013, 7:16pm
Post edited by Semper Fi (Rohan) on Sep 29 2013, 7:18pm

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