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Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
A little sexist;:
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Olessan
Bree
Sep 28 2013, 3:42am
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Making a narrow assumption for such a wide group. It's just that you personally don't know any women that are interested in it. I don't think that undertone was intentional though.
It'd be like me saying, "My brothers aren't interested in sport. They don't like it, so clearly every other man dislikes it too. Those guys that squeal at football games are in the rare minority." or , "Everyone in X country likes to Y." It's a preposterous blanket.
A good 75%+ of the Tolkien fans I know and know of are female, and every time I've seen one of the films at the cinema the gender of audience members has been quite dominantly female as well (for AUJ, I saw it twice on premiere day and again in the weeks following).
In AUJ, there is basically nothing for a female to relate to. All we've really got is Bilbo. Bilbo is however easily relatable for a lot of people, even more so in AUJ. In the book, kind of.
Most of the dwarves are indeed vulgar and unlikeable, but that's a given -- they're dwarves. I imagine the only people who could relate with the dwarves properly are those with similarly poor conduct. I suppose there are also people who could relate to the dwarves' loss of a sense of home, and etc.
I personally relate to Bilbo, and know that the more I can relate to a character, the more I care about them. If the story is bad and the characters shallow, I won't be interested in a movie. Same goes for other genres, for example sci-fi which usually has some fairly stupid storylines and weak characterization. Can't pass up the good stuff though.
When I read the Hobbit, I can't relate to any of the dwarves and so I see them as mostly disposable and flat. They blur together since Tolkien describes them all as being samey (short old bearded men -- boring) with the main differences being clothing and hair colour. I actually find that, in the books, Bard and the Elvenking are both infinitely more interesting than the dwarves. Smaug is even more interesting, probably up there with Bilbo or exceeding him.
I'm female and the biggest fan of The Hobbit, LotR AND fantasy in general, that I know personally and within my social sphere. At least half the males I know in fact are completely disinterested in it despite my attempts to lure them into the fandom. The only male Tolkien fans I know who are as into it as I am are those I know through the internet.
Don't know what you mean by 'female energy' though. Phillipa and Fran Walsh both work on the Hobbit films alongside PJ just like they did with the LotR films.
I think it's just that you don't know a lot of female fans/don't have many in your particular area.
On a lighter note, after all the great things about LotR (films and books) which need no mention, one last thing was quite a few of the characters had the added benefit of being easy on the eyes. That's a minor factor, though. It's all about a good story and deep characters. Aragorn and Faramir, for example, are my favourites, but not because of their looks as a lot of people stupidly assume. I like their story arcs and how they develop, and how they're built as characters overall.
(This post was edited by Olessan on Sep 28 2013, 3:46am)
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Post edited by Olessan
(Bree) on Sep 28 2013, 3:43am
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Post edited by Olessan
(Bree) on Sep 28 2013, 3:46am
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