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Sep 2 2013, 9:46pm

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They need to start developing his relationship with his uncle and brother pronto. Especially uncle. Those are such important 3 characters. Kili and Fili were marginalized in the book but movie simply can't afford to have their deaths without some good development that would give those deaths emotional impact.

They simply can't afford to skimp on the relationships between the Durins, yet I have to admit I have some fears in that regard, because they talked about fathers and sons being important in the next film and mention Thorin and freaking Thrain(seriously the guy's dead or at least hasn't been heard from in decades do we really need to go back and develop a relationship between them that could be spent on people in the present?) and Legolas and Thranduil(and tbh I assume also Bard and Bain) and all I could think was:

What about Kili and Fili?

Thorin for all intents and purposes is apparently the closest thing to a father they've had for most of their lives, they are his heirs. The whole first movie Kili was practically Thorin's shadow, always trying to be ready to be of service, looking half devastated when Thorin got angry about the orc jokes he and Fili were having, Thorin's good opinion is obviously very important to Kili(and thus also a reason for drama if he doesn't share Thorin's opinion of the elves, at least not all elves--he didn't share Thorin's opinion of Bilbo either so that's kind of foreshadowing).

The relationship between Thorin and his nephews is partly why they end up DEAD when they are barely out of the dwarf equivalent of their teenage years. It's so important they don't skimp on it.

And if Thranduil ends up being something of a father figure to Tauriel, rather than her unrequited love:), with Legolas as a sort of an older brother, rather than unrequited love interest:), then it would also be another thing Kili and Tauriel have in common, at least in terms of their being a certain amount of symmetry to their story arcs.

If anything with Kili and Tauriel goes this direction I have to say that PJ, PB and Co were not lazy and clearly gave it some real thought. It's really rather a nice artful inclusion the way the two characters could end up mirroring each other and reflecting some part of the larger storyline.

(This post was edited by marillaraina on Sep 2 2013, 9:50pm)

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Post edited by marillaraina (Rohan) on Sep 2 2013, 9:50pm

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