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Jun 5 2013, 10:21pm

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i'm going to argue against my own point now

i'm going to argue against my own point now.

later in the sil, there's a bit of text about celegorm and caranthir (?) -- well, two fsons, anyway -- and arwen luthien. i always had the impression that one of them was thinking of raping her to force a marriage.... but i'll have to reread... certainly that impression was before i read what tolkien said about elves not raping.

but perhaps that incident was a situation in which a male elf was contemplating rape, and it's just an astounding aberration.... perhaps he (or he and eol) were the only ones who ever contemplated it.

cheers ---


aka. fili orc-enshield
the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo

(This post was edited by Maciliel on Jun 5 2013, 10:27pm)

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