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Jun 4 2013, 4:05pm

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Killer Elves or the Curse at Work?

Killer Elves or the Curse at Work?

[Curufin to Eol] "By the laws of the Eldar I may not slay you at this time."

"Lord... the guard have taken captive one that came by steath to the Black Gate. Eol he names himself.... we have not slain him as your law commands."

"Suddenly, swift as a serpent, he seized a javelin that he held hid beneath his cloak and cast it at Maeglin, crying: 'The second choice I take and for my son also!'"

"...when Eol was brought before TUrgon he found no mercy; and they led him forth to the Caragdur, a precipice of black rock upon the north side of the hill of Gondolin, there to cast him down from the sheer walls of the city."

1. For enightened beings, there sure is a lot of killing and threat of killing going on -- often for little reason (see Curufin's thwarted threat to kill Eol, for no reason than Eol just knocked on his door; but perhaps we judge Curufin too harshly -- perhaps Eol was always showing up in the middle of the night with pamphlets about some cause or another, or was trying to sell cookware made from galvorn). Is this murderous and near murderous pattern an abberation? Do you find this shocking, coming from Elves? When Morgoth was killing and disturbing things in Arda, the Valar at first locked him up. Is it ill-advised to do what the Valar would not? Take a life (which is what brought the Doom of Mandos upon them in the first place)?

2. Eol is killed after Aredhel dies from her poisoned wound. Was Turgon justified in killing Eol, knowing that Aredhel was immortal, and would likely be released from the Halls of Mandos?

3. Is the killing of Eol a slightly more than meaningless sentance, considering that he, too, is immortal?


aka. fili orc-enshield
the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo

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