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May 29 2013, 11:28pm

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Actually, that is not an accurate translation

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I really couldn't care less about Lilly or the made up character of Tauriel. I think she is going to be, as Lilly herself put it, "a black mark", in the world of Tolkien. The whole concept of the character from what we have heard so far screams foul and goes against the source material itself. Even the supposed names meaning screams a bunch of crap. "Daughter of Mirkwood"... I thought it was Greenwood to the elves. and since Jackson felt the need to have it turning bad IN the Hobbit timeline. I'm sure the name didn't just change overnight. Some people are just optimistic about her, some are being realistic about her and her involvement in something she doesn't belong in. I guess it makes the changes easier to take for some people to see everything in a positive light. But for me once Jackson started making up characters and changing the plot of the whole story around. All the while trying to justify them, with answers that are in themselves vague and IMO side stepping the questions, he lost any respect I had for him from making LOTR. Sure there were character changes in LOTR BUT The character changes in those films were only minor(in comparison)and any made up characters were none with any real substantial plot deviations, which Tauriel surely creates since she is a totally made up, non Tolkien character. doing things that NEVER HAPPENED in the story. I do not consider the captain of the guard an actual developed character in the book since he was vague and had maybe a couple lines and was gone after a few paragraphs. Maybe if Lilly were there for a couple lines and gone after only a few minutes I could accept the character a whole lot more than i do. Wink

It's not as bad as you fear. "Daughter of Mirkwood" is not the literal translation of the name Tauriel.

taur S 'wood', 'forest'
-iel feminine name suffix, 'daughter of', 'maiden'
Tauriel S 'daughter of the wood', 'forest maiden'

The name has nothing to do with reflecting the nature of Mirkwood Forest, so you can at least stop worrying about that.

When a story is adapted from one media to another it is often necessary to make some changes to accomodate the nature of the new media. The Hobbit as a children's book can allow Gandalf to drop out of the narrative for an extended period of time with only a vague answer as to what he was up to. A film audience isn't going to put up with that, and so we see Gandalf meeting with the White Council and eventually will see the Council assault Dol Guldur. Likewise, the films must paint a more complete picture of the people and places that Bilbo and the dwarves encounter.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on May 29 2013, 11:30pm)

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Post edited by Otaku-sempai (Immortal) on May 29 2013, 11:30pm

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