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Semper Fi

May 26 2013, 3:29pm

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I never said she brought it up

I just said that ruthless is too heavy a word that certianly doesn`t apply to what we will see in the movies. How can anyone be ruthless to Orcs? Please,explain that to me and also show me an example from any Tolkien book in which Orcs take PoW, treat them nicely, let them go (and not in order to follow them) so that they should receive an equal tretament.

Ruhtless means inability to show compassion and mercy where required. This is why I mentioned non-combatants for they are most obivous and easy to understand example. Since Elves deal almost excusively with Orc armies, and those armies neither are capable or showing mercy and compassion or ask it for themselves, I wouldn`t call Elven defense and pre-emptive strikes against such enemy ruthless. Orcs simply are not meant to be sympathtic and relatable enemy. So, whether Lilly, or rather Warner Bros marketing department, likes it or not, that robs her character of ruthlessness inflicted on humanized enemy who deserves compassion and mercy in certain situations.

Denying dwarves of Erebor a sancuary can be classified as ruthless in part though Thranduil had legit reason to do so (such as protecting his realm from Smaug`s retribution).

My point is that choice of her words make the character sound worse than she actually will be. I don`t believe for a second that Tauriel is going to be merciless and uncompassionate to characters who require it, such as Bilbo and dwarves, to a point of killing some of them. She may issue threats but she won`t execute them. Notice that she says the character still doesn`t have the wisdom. So that implies she`ll aquire some over the course of two movies. And I strongly suspect that compassion for dwarves will be a huge part of that wisdom.

(This post was edited by Semper Fi on May 26 2013, 3:34pm)

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Post edited by Semper Fi (Rohan) on May 26 2013, 3:31pm
Post edited by Semper Fi (Rohan) on May 26 2013, 3:32pm
Post edited by Semper Fi (Rohan) on May 26 2013, 3:34pm

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