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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Main: I must say I never found anything ill-mannered about that passage.: Edit Log


Apr 24 2013, 10:32am

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I must say I never found anything ill-mannered about that passage.

Maybe it just seems uncomfortable to the eyes of the modern reader.
As far as Galadriel's silence is concerned, maybe it was a custom in Middle-earth for the royal couple to issue a single welcome through the husband? She does stand up to show respect to her guests, so maybe this was considered proper enough.
As for Celeborn's lines to Aragorn and Legolas, I take them to imply compassion for their plights, and find nothing awkward about Celeborn not mentioning Legolas's name - maybe it's a form of honorific address? I'm not familiar with ancient mannerisms even in our own world, so for me this would not be unimaginable in Middle-earth.
The rebuke to Haldir - maybe if Celeborn had known, he would have greeted them in a different manner (with these ancient proper conduct protocols, you never know Smile ), or would have postponed the welcome till the suffering company had rested? If I were in Celeborn's shoes, I'd also naturally assume that my guard would have taken an account of the company's doings before sending me information, so I'm not surprised at the slightest at his reaction, neither at the fact that he addresses Haldir in their own native tongue and spares him embarrassment in front of the entire Fellowship.
I find nothing insulting about Celeborn 'freaking out' at hearing about a living and very much active balrog a few miles away from Lothlorien; he does lose his temper, but he's distressed, and he apologizes afterwards: so for me, nowhere as offensive as let's say Aragorn before the doors of Meduseld. Tongue
Galadriel's rebuke of Celeborn is also fine with me, and I fully approved of it; he did speak unjustly in his outburst; but as far as I am concerned, that can happen to anyone. And being a kinsman to Thingol, I'll warrant Celeborn has quite the temper to overcome. At least Galadriel assured the Fellowship of their welcome, despite all the doom & gloom that they brought with them.

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