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Sunflower
Valinor

Dec 17 2007, 8:26am


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And as for me....

..I was upset with how Jackson had likewise beatified Sam....how Faramir and Sam's characters had switched. How in the film, Faramir is the one tempted by the Ring and Sam never is. I would have liked to see Sam's "visions" of Mordor turned into a garden of Paradise. But no. However I have learned to live with this as Faramir goes through a character arc, and if PJ sees Sam as his alter ego, just as Tolkien did with Faramir, that's OK.

I have tried to find the Google link to the War And Peace Film clips, Brigand, but couldn't find it. So I went to YouTube.

To find them, go to YouTube and type Sergei Bondarchuk's "War And Peace" in the search engine.

And the first clip is actually the one I was talking about. I call it the "Portrait of Mother Russia As a Young Girl" scene. You could write a dissertation on this scene, it works on SO many levels. The other clips are unfortunately not in order. But they'll give you a taste of the film. You'll have to follow the pages on the right to watch them all.

As for my personal Top 10--they are (not in order)

Metropolis
Silence of the Lambs (as a femenist polemic, it's fantastic)
Pinocchio (still Disney's greatest, though Bambi is close behind and Beauty And the Beast will grow in importance over time)
Bondarchuk's War And Peace
Cocteau's Beauty And The Beast
Ken Burns's "The Civil War" (the greatest 19th-century film never made)
The Snake Pit
Pather Panchali
All Quiet On the Western Front
The Battle of Algiers
Lawrence of Arabia
LOTR Okay, that's 12, with the Star Wars Saga (as one story) honorable mention...yikes, this is murderously difficult, can I make it my Top 20?:)

As to Oscars and greatness, I think LOTR's official greatness in film history will depend on American historians tastes of cinema. Will they make an exception for LOTr as they do now, or will the film version of LOTR follow the critical tastes of LOTR the books. I think LOTR the films will live on, if only b/c they are a trilogy....and one film which is greater than the sum of its parts, otherwise they'd follow Ben Hur and Titanic.

As to Ben Hur....I've learned to seperate the artist from the politics. His National Rifle Association ties and politics don't pervent me from watching something he made 50 yrs ago. If that had been filmed today however.....

And as for Finding Nemo..that's actually a really great film. It isn't better than ROTK of course (!!!) but it's almost as good. I think it deserved a BP nomination. But as The Academy purposely created the Best Animated Picture category in the mid 90's to ghettoize animated films b/c the Screen Actors Guild was rightly afraid of films without actors getting the best screenplays, supposedly saving money on films by not using "expensive": actors, etc....it's a shame.


(This post was edited by Sunflower on Dec 17 2007, 8:33am)


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Post edited by Sunflower (Valinor) on Dec 17 2007, 8:33am


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