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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit: Like and yet unlike. I agree, except where I don't. : Edit Log



AinurOlorin
Nevle-flah


Oct 29 2012, 3:53am


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Like and yet unlike. I agree, except where I don't.

On the one hand, I think, when deciding whether to adhere more closely to the actual story, or to the particular tastes of a subset of viewers who read the story decades ago and want it to have changed and intensified just because they may have done so, I would rather one stick to the source.

On the subject of young Bilbo. I actually don't see that as a problem at all. I rather like it. It is not contradictory, in so much as the book really does tell you all the essentials: that Gandalf was friends with Bilbo's grandfather, and indeed had a history of taking more adventurous hobbits, particularly members of the Took clan, off on adventures that spanned many generations of Hobbit and Shire history. It is stated that he knew Bilbo as a child, and that Bilbo was very fond of the Wizard's tales, and minor feats of magic, and his enchanted fireworks etc. etc. So I think, on the whole, this is not only an easily justified inclusion, it is one that really does not require much in the way of justification.

There may be other alterations which are not so plausible, which do not agree with the text, and which not only beg some justification, but may indeed be unjustifiable, beyond the rather loaded perameters of "whoever is directing/producing the movie can do whatever they please," which is a dreadfully poor standard of measurement indeed. Scenes of Gandalf and a young Bilbo, however, don't fall into that category. The text supports it rather explicitly.

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i don't need to justify anything. Honestly, i don't care whether PJ follows the book slavishly, i only want a good movie. That's all. Well, that's not entirely true, i actually want him to not follow the book slavishly, because i don't consider the book that great, to be honest, i'm not 12 anymore. Don't shoot me, it's charming but i wish it had more depth and be a little bit more serious.

I can understand people getting upset by the axe in the head but i don't understand people getting upset by the movie showing Gandalf with young boy Bilbo, because it is not in the book, or some changed dialog. I have no sympathy whatsoever for people with such extremist views.


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seems some people need to try and justify these sections of made up content somehow instead of just admitting they are fabrications of Peter Jackson's "based on" the appendices which have no real details in them. only bits and pieces from what I read. That and only about 12 pages at most are related to the Hobbit in any way shape or form



"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on Oct 29 2012, 3:54am)


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Post edited by AinurOlorin (Nevle-flah) on Oct 29 2012, 3:54am


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