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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit: You misinterpreted my post. Apologies if I wasn't clear.: Edit Log


Oct 3 2012, 6:03pm

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You misinterpreted my post. Apologies if I wasn't clear.

1. I'm not obfuscating, just clarifying. The dwarves, according to that quote, were not "modeled" on Jews. They simply share some characteristics of the Jewish people. That's all. Wasn't being combative here at all.

2. I wasn't ascribing anti-Semtic motivations to your post. I was simply implying that it wouldn't be in Peter Jackson's interest to perpetuate such a stereotype. Apologies for not being crystal clear.

3. There are opinions, and there are facts. However, I do not pull this interpretation out of my posterior. Those with intimate knowledge of Tolkien, and the English language, such as Professor Tom Shippey (and Tolkien himself) have made the very same assessments of the contract, and the hobbit, within the context of Middle Earth (and the dwarves). I find it a tad frustrating when some people just write it off, as if it is just some silly, pedantic opinion. It is, as far as I can tell, quite possibly very close to the truth of what Tolkien was intending.

I don't mind if people choose to interpret the contract as reflecting Thorin's character, even though I think it is way off base. But I do mind if that is presented as a more legitimate opinion than one that is likely closer to the mark, which is that it was Bilbo who asked for such contractual details, and Thorin who (mockingly) delivered. That comes straight from the book, and not from anyone's interpretation. It is in the quote I posted earlier.

(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Oct 3 2012, 6:04pm)

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