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Jul 13 2011, 3:38am

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So actually no most directors do NOT manage, imo, to differentiate between 12 disciples, most fail pretty miserably and after their initial introductions they mostly just blend into a group, aside from maybe one or two, perhaps 3 standouts.

That's pretty much the way it should be handled for effective storytelling. Anything beyond that is sidetracking for its own sake and to no dramatic purpose.

The original posted stated that directors DID differentiate between them with no problem, as an argument for saying that it wouldn't be a problem to differentiate between the dwarves. The rightness or wrongness of that differentiation or lack thereof of was not under discussion. :)

My opinion is that no most of the 12 apostles in films do not look like anything more than a bunch of guys with beards, the directors normally do not do a good job differentiating, which is the opposite of what the original post was saying.

And IMO, there is a dramatic purpose in The Hobbit for at least a few of the dwarves, most particularly Thorin and Fili and Kili but a 2 or 3 of the others as well, to really stand out--so basically at least half the dwarves should be more than just "ah...more dwarves".

Thorin as the "lead dwarf" probably wouldn't be too hard to keep track of but we need to really know who Fili and Kili are so that way when...what happens happens the audience will care and not be like "Oh shame that...now who are they again?" (I'm not sure if that is considered a spoiler seeing as, well, it's in the book and the book has been out for 60 years or so)

And frankly, imo, the best and most balanced way to do that is to give all the dwarves their own looks and personalites.

(This post was edited by marillaraina on Jul 13 2011, 3:40am)

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Post edited by marillaraina (Rohan) on Jul 13 2011, 3:40am

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