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elentari3018
Nargothrond


Oct 2 2024, 1:20am


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Sauron's forces are more numerable than the Elves, men and dwarves at that time


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It is admitted that Sauron would eventually win, but would it be immediate? Does he have enough to conquer right away?

And yes, i think Sauron wanted to pound Middle earth to the pulp because of the Ring and he would continue to do so without possessing it again. The only hope for Free Peoples was the destruction of the Ring.
So i do not think there would be enough to counter Sauron- He was attacking ME in the North with the offense to Dale and Mirkwood, had forces in Dol Guldur to overrun Lothlorien- Galadriel had to repel the forces thrice there to defeat Sauron.
Also Minas Tirith only won because the Witch-king was defeated and in the battle of the black gates, the Western forces were also outnumbered.
also remember as you said here

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The elves would offer stiff resistance and thus keep Sauron busy enough that he would also be unable to wage war on Gondor or anywhere else for that matter. But victory would be up to him, and how much he would be willing to invest. I think he aims to conquer everything east of the mountains. The mouth of Sauron offered these terms to the men of the west at the black gate, indicating Sauron was not in the mood for immediate worldwide conquest after failing to capture Minas Tirith, “All lands east of the Anduin shall be Sauron’s for ever, solely. West of the Anduin as far as the Misty Mountains and the Gap of Rohan shall be tributary to Mordor,.”

The elves were not too numerable and the men were also very busy with Sauron's orcs, Easterlings and Haradrim. I do not think the battles would have been drawn out too long because they were all banking on the Ring being destroyed and then Sauron would have been out of power.

The whole point of Sauron battling so many fronts is because he doesn't have the Ring yet. If the Ring had been destroyed sooner then less battles would have occurred. I do nto think a stalemate would have lasted with Gondor so weakened with the conquest of Osgliath and the Siege of GOndor.

"By Elbereth and Luthien the fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" ~Frodo

"And then Gandalf arose and bid all men rise, and they rose, and he said: 'Here is a last hail ere the feast endeth. Last but not least. For I name now those who shall not be forgotten and without whose valour nought else that was done would have availed; and I name before you all Frodo of the Shire and Samwise his servant. And the bards and the minstrels should give them new names: Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad , Endurance beyond Hope and Hope Unquenchable.." ~Gandalf, The End of the Third Age , from The History of Middle Earth series

"He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings."- Siege of Gondor, RotK


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