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noWizardme
Gondolin


Dec 12 2024, 6:05pm


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"A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties"

Merry (and Pippin) are mentioned only intermittently in these sections of the book. I find it hard to tell whether I should read a lot into exactly who says or does what, or whether Tolkien is just prudently making sure everyone in the party is mentioned from time to time in case we forget they've come along.

I read Merry's tone as jocular. That's what I think all the exclamation marks are about! I think Tolkien was from a time and place when good humour - even if clearly a bit forced - was considered admirable. (Hence "A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties" Baden-Powell in 1911, or Kipling's poem "If--" )

And maybe there is something in it. Even situations where it is necesssary to be uncomfortable or tired for a while are better without peoeple moaning and complaining. But maybe only one-and-a-half cheers for that in a properly dangerous situation where we muct keep up each others' spirits, but where a leader can make lethal mistakes by not understanding the actual state the party has got into.

I remember being puzzled by why it was Merry who was "on the right track" about the doors of Moria. I had to go back and re-read. And in a 2015 discssion here I liked how squire put it:

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‘What does it mean by “speak, friend, and enter”?’ asked Merry.

He doesn't ask what it says, he asks what it means. From his point of view, the inscription tells you to speak, but not what to speak. Gimli derails the question by taking the conventional interpretation that it is an invitation to speak a known password, and that gets Gandalf going on the same track as well.

Finally Gandalf realizes that Merry is right: the inscription is not self-explanatory. Why address the reader as "friend"? Why add that word?

Would Merry have solved the puzzle himself? Certainly not, he could only respond to Gandalf's erroneous translation of "Speak" for "Say". But as the folk-figure of the wise naif, Merry effectively corrects the wise but too-suspicious wizard.


(Later in that discussion - I say! back in the days when a Reading Room post could have over 100 replies! - we also noticed that writing the password on the door is maybe not as daft as Gandalf suggests: If you don't know the password already you have first to know how to reveal the inscription, and then you not only need to be able to read, but to read in Sindarin. It would be a bit like having your computer password on the notorious post-it under the keybpard, but the post-it has the password written in Cuneform.)

And Gosh - or as Merry might say, Hullo! - is it really eight years since I wrote this Moria Doors mathom? )


Odd maybe that the Fellowships mother-tongue Sindarin speaker Legolas doesn't say something a bout Gandalf's translation. But that would spoil an magnificently tense bit of the story.
And similarly, I agree - odd that it is not Merry or Pippin who notice that the wounded Frodo and Sam are struggling to keep up with Aragorn's forced pace as the party escapes from Moria. Given that the whole expedition is to get Frodo to Mordor, it's not clever letting him be the hindermost that the devil (in this case any pursuing orcs) might take. But I think this bit of the writing might be about Aragorn - setting up the strain for him of being forced suddenly to take command, and some cracks appearing among the Fellowship.

On that, I like this commentary, by "Never Felt Better":

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Aragorn becomes straight minded and stubborn, his mind very firmly on the chase to the detriment of the company. Both Frodo and Sam could be seriously injured from their time in Moria, Sam’s cut being especially worrying. Aragorn is stepping up as the leader, but it is clear that he is a little flustered at this moment in time, missing very important things in his zeal to get clear of the mountains. It all works out, his skill in healing coming into play again, and the discovery of the mithril coat is a nice diversion, but it’s worrying: Aragorn is making mistakes and it won’t be the last time.

On Lothlorien, the new destination for the party, we learn little, which might rankle considering how it has suddenly come into view without much fanfare. It’s an elven kingdom, a mysterious place known far and wide as “perilous” for visitors. It’s more of that fear of outsiders stuff that was so evident in the Shire. Lorien is the country far away you know a bare smidgen about, and even that is distorted by time and lack of contact. But Aragorn remembers the place like it some kind of pleasant memory, so that’s enough to banish any fear the reader might be getting from the text.

Boromir is the obstacle again though, but he has some good reasons this time. He was the one dead set against Moria, and he was somewhat right. Now he’s being dragged into another place that he doesn’t like the sound of. Moreover, it does seem that, unlike Gandalf, Aragorn has made a kind of executive decision here, without consulting the wider group. [It might also be that Aragorn is remembering that it was Gandalf's plan to "go down the Silverlode into the secret woods" and a need to honour the Fallen Chief's plan is making him hasty - NoWiz.] Boromir’s whole attitude and character is summed up by his response to where else they could go: “A plain road, though it would led through a hedge of swords”. Boromir is a straightforward kind of guy, a leader of men who puts his faith in what he knows. He doesn’t like all of this mystery, the tramping through lost kingdoms. Boromir is beginning to tip further towards the dark place he’ll end up at the end of this specific book and the new leader of the group isn’t helping in some ways with his very testy response:

“‘But lore wanes in Gondor, Boromir, if in the city of those who once were wise they now speak evil of Lothlorien. Believe what you will, there is no other way for us – unless you would go back to Moria-gate, or scale the pathless mountains, or swim the Great River all alone.’

Then lead on!’ said Boromir. ‘But it is perilous.’

Perilous indeed,’ said Aragorn, ‘fair and perilous; but only evil need fear it, or those who bring some evil with them.

It’s spreading too, the Fellowship being strained by the travel and the grief. As they cross the Nimrodel River, another opportunity for elvish myth and magic to be expanded in the form of a poem, Legolas is suddenly very mean-spirited to Pippin, telling him to “dig a hole in the ground” when the hobbit expresses reservations about sleeping in a tree. It’s really harsh and it’s only the start of a very arrogant attitude being expressed by the elf in this chapter. Perhaps Gandalf was the only thing holding the group together in a useful way. That sense of troubled minds and party members feeling hopeless continues throughout, giving “Lothlorien” an ambiance that at times approaches an unsettling place: Gimli’s utterance “Now long shall I journey ere I have joy again” is just one example.


That hopeless feeling might also be behind Merry's "I have never been out of my own land before. And if I had known what the world outside was like, I don't think I should have had the heart to leave it."

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"I am not made for querulous pests." Frodo 'Spooner' Baggins.

(This post was edited by noWizardme on Dec 12 2024, 6:11pm)


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