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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: TV Discussion: The Rings of Power: Agree with a lot of what you say but.: Edit Log



Michelle Johnston
Mithlond


Nov 11 2024, 1:35am


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Agree with a lot of what you say but.


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Artists write screen plays and have huge amendments made to their scripts, If Ridley Scott is given 100 million dollars to make a movie he will make the movie that is requested by the one who pays for the movie. That is particularly pertinent to what we are talking about when he turned away from seeking God, to making another monster movie; with a story line.

God is big business in the United States, particularly the fly over states.


This leans toward "writing cowardice" rather than "lack of imagination." You imply the writer, producer, director, whichever or all Scott might be, does not wish to offend the Big Business of religion, or Big Business in general, or at least is willing to compromise his story for the backer. Maybe I should add artistic integrity to the list.

The story in this case, was already written by J.R.R. Tolkien. All they have to do is follow it. I see the show runners' or writers' philosophical ideas about what they are doing as somewhat pretentious, trying to convince viewers their clothes are beautiful while they are actually... Well, you know the fable. William Peter Blatty determined to use a demon instead of Satan (though the demon claimed to be Satan), so we're kind of stuck there. His book dictates what the writers do, so they are excused. But there no such excuse for Rings of Power, no matter how many story theories and justifications we bandy about..


I do not necessarily disagree with you. But consider this

https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2022/02/22/112283-the-rings-of-power-not-art-or-cash-but-art-and-cash/

Tolkien himself described his attitude as "Cash or Kudos" and to get the ball rolling on this 200 million was paid which gave veto power not to the guys writing the story but the guys who paid for this.

Whilst we are doing moral dilemma. I wonder how many people who contribute to this forum are in a strong enough position to turn round to the one who gives the advance to not succumb to artistic cowardice.

In the IV they discuss Saruman and his desire to reorder things for everyones good. As always the motives of Tolkien's characters have an applicability.

You are perfectly right to direct your fire at the writers of the show with a sense of outrage and discernment for better things. I just wonder if it is not more nuanced than that with other forces at work.

One thing Voronwe's excellent question has raised is, now we are under way, I am giving more thought to how difficult finishing is, in a coherent way to a summit, rather than a post script. It's a different dilemma but look how they were presented with a large bag of gold to produce a show without the authentic beginning. Is that not part of the compromise that I am shining more of a light on.

By the way I am not implying anything, I KNOW it happens and I use Ridley as an example because he said it publicly. This level of entertainment is big business. Knock me down with a feather if the way Eru is presented is affected by that.

We have seen Numenor destroyed in the first season; someone has agency. We are down to particularly, who, the implications of Miriel's words are something which she calls the "Valar".

My Dear Bilbo something is the matter with you! you are not the same hobbit that you were.

(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Nov 11 2024, 1:49am)


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