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Michelle Johnston
Mithlond

Nov 5 2024, 4:25am

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Sorry I misunderstood your original point

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I am not Catholic, or Christian, or religious in any traditional way. I don't need for it to make sense from a religious standpoint; I just need for it to make sense. But I have a hard time imagining any scenario that makes sense without the intervention of the One. Having the Valar suddenly able to exercise that kind of power on their own would render Ar-Pharazon's attack on the Undying Lands ridiculous or worse.

I thought you were saying in your original post that we have no evidence of the One. So I answered on that basis and gave examples of how they can warn and amplify (to the audience) where the authority to change the world comes from.

The palantir could be a conduit to show the audience the one. Ar Pharazon has already seen some inexplicable things in it (the secret fire which Halbrand is intimately connected to) and we are not certain what Earien has seen in it.

So I would amend my answer and say their are a number of avenues they have opened up already to show first the jeopardy and then the realisation of that jeopardy and that it comes through the One as Halbrand refers to it.

Where I may differ from you is that I think with Eru less is more. I want the myth of creation to hold on to its mystery but for the audience to understand their are ordained powers who come from the original thought of the one.

Finally it sounds provocative but I do not really understand why Ar Pharazon, goaded by Sauron to seek eternal life, is compromised by him defying the powers as opposed to defying the one. That feels a little like semantics. We also have to bear in mind the hierarchy is not explained in the LOTR but in the Music and the Valaquenta.

Finally, finally is it a Noaharchian flood or as in the story a flat earth myth where the world is made round. Now that does feel like complication for its own sake and a potential distraction. Remember people here have got concerned about the lack of logic of where stars can be seen.

Do you show paradise separating from Earth? Can of worms.

My Dear Bilbo something is the matter with you! you are not the same hobbit that you were.

(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Nov 5 2024, 4:38am)

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