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Michelle Johnston
Mithlond


Wed, 3:05pm


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Arwen's lienage has to be established but


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Celeborn is more significant than Glorfindel in at least one respect. He is the father of Cebebrian and the maternal grandfather of Arwen Undomiel.


Mr Tolkien had a knack for making a lot of widowers.

Denethor
Elendil
Elrond
Thranduil

The Elrond/ Galadriel axis, because they are Elves, has no sense of that's my Aunt.

Celebrian's story from the 3rd Age is something of a thing with me. When I argued in my Essays on The Hobbit and how to make it more genuinely adult, I had Thranduil's wife taken and tortured by Azog and Bolg, based on early designs, half-elf, half-orc, as a consequence of a rape.

Bearing that in mind, other than to tick box deep fans completion needs Celebrians story could work well in Season 5. The children are born early, and Sauron, jealous of the loss of his fair form and more nihilistic than ever, orchestrates Mr Tolkien's story early. This puts more angst between Elrond (husband) and Galadriel (mother) with Sauron. Celeborn would need to rock up for that to happen.

I could be entirely wrong, but introducing certain Elves just to hit lineage markers when there are 3,000 years of the third age to go afterwards feels cluttered. Unless they support a particular storyline and feed into existing arcs, why go there? (Other than to honour specific time dates and lineage).

But Bower, being Celeborn, would enable Galadriel to become pregnant, Celebrian to marry Elrond and be ready for children in the third age. Maybe in the brief celebratory period after Sauron is captured and taken to Numenor.


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